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Related: About this forumWould you vote to disband all religious cults that can only grow their tribes by violence?
Would you vote to disband all religious cults that can only grow their tribes by violence?
When Christianity became a true religion of jihad and Yahweh a true God of War, --- as well as a state religion that none could ignore or stay out of, --- the doom of all religious and political free thinking was to be discouraged with death. Islam and Christianity thus both have in common the fact that both were born from War. Not conquest by positive example or showing a better social system.
Thus Constantine and Christianity became co-tyrants to the Western peoples.
The champions of the mystery schools were dominated by Gnostic Christian sects. The best heretics so to speak.
If Gnostic Christian sects were the best of the free thinkers, and today most of the world professes to be freedom seekers and free thinkers, then why is Gnostic Christianity not the largest religious group in any crowd?
At the end of the movie, ---God on trial, --- Jews who had found God guilty of breaking his covenant, and thus recognizing Gods evil nature, those who survived came away praying to God. I see that as a great fear of not having a God. This would be quite idiotic if not for the fact that to the old Jewry, God was a man.
What man having faith in God truly is, is man having faith in himself. Think Jewish Divine Council.
We are natural animals. An animals bias always favors its own. A mans God can never be other than what his own Father Complex tells him what characteristic his ideal God should have. These character traits will always be what a man has. Man in Gods image is the same as saying God in mans image.
Why do cults like Catholics, Protestant Christian, Evangelicals and Islam all try to take mans inheritance of being the greatest force on the earth away from men?
Why do these immoral, homophobic and horribly misogynistic cults persist in trying to force their God down the throats of free men and women?
Why do free people allow such cults to even exist when all they want is death to all free thinking?
Separation of state and church must be maintained worldwide as all who want theocracies are using war to get it. These are all Catholics, Protestant Christians, Evangelicals and Islam. War mongers all.
I would vote to disband all cults like Catholics, Protestant Christians, Evangelicals and Islam who work against freedom and can only grow their tribes by violence and not good example of good living.
Would you vote against such a proposition and maintain the status quo of having these homophobic and misogynous cults continue to slow our evolution to civilization?
Regards
DL
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Prohibition has never worked.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Anyone that uses their religion as a demonstration of how "good" they or their religion is, should be shunned from public policy discussions.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I think people should be allowed to believe any thing they want. No one should be allowed to force someone else to believe the same thing.
msongs
(67,413 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)People can believe what they want.
Even those who believe they have a right to force others to follow their religious laws through violence, we have other means to stop that.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Therefore, I say no.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)it's hard to give your view credence.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)You've no room to question anyone's credibility.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)I know why but you have a chance to explain your continued action here and now for the uninformed. Most people don't like to be caught lying, how about you?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)But you keep digging.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)the creation myth in Genesis.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Leontius
(2,270 posts)Not looking so good for you.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)You believe your god created the universe. You're a creationist. Ken Ham is also a creationist. You and he may disagree on the technicalities of when and how, but you agree on the basic notion that it took an outside agent - specifically the Christian god - to bring the universe into existence.
Now how about you show everyone how a decent Christian should behave?
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Not looking good for you.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Leontius
(2,270 posts)Not looking good for you.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)looking bad for you.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Leontius
(2,270 posts)Leontius
(2,270 posts)Makes false statements and then hides, it looks pretty bad.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)1/ fundamentalists preaching hate should be shut down.
2/ teach evolution and the inexistence of Noah/Moses in schools.
That, plus increasingly mass education, should mow religion down.
Hopefully.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)We live in what should be a free country. The government needs to stay neutral on religious matters.
If our schools teach good science and history, the students can draw their own conclusions on the reality of religious claims.
Some schools present the different religious ideologies. If they do, secularism should be included, and part of the secularist platform should mention secularists point out there is no evidence for some Abrahamic stories, including Abraham and Moses. It should also include the fact secularists mention Darwinian evolution has scientific backup while statingg they see no evidence for creationism.
That's Free Speech on par with the presentation of established cults (*) in school.
(*: like Christianity, Islam and Hinduism)
trotsky
(49,533 posts)And it's voted to get rid of the other religions. How do you do it? Do you have to use violence to grow your tribe? Ooops!
edhopper
(33,584 posts)still believe in a divine Jesus, and other supernatural shit, so why would I give them more credence than any other believers.
Look, I think the Amish are batshit crazy in their beliefs, they just happen to be pacifist and insular, and therefore easier to live with.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)gcomeau
(5,764 posts)You can ban the violence.... but of course we kinda already do that.
goldent
(1,582 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Banning a religion only serves to make it clandestine and drive it underground. It doesn't eliminate the religion, but adds to the persecution patina. What would be the point of a legal ban? We should hope to change minds, not legislation.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)a young age can be taught....
Our youth are so much smarter than we give them credit for, they should not be denied the truth...or at least be able to determine what feels true for them after knowing all the facts....not made up mythologies...