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muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:37 PM Jul 2015

Young Nepalese boy slain in human sacrifice ritual

A Nepalese man has confessed to the murder of a young boy after saying a local holy man advised him that a human sacrifice would heal his ailing son, local police said.

The body of 10-year-old Jivan Kohar was found on July 24 on the outskirts of Kudiya village in southwest Nepal. The child had gone missing three days earlier.

Police superintendent Nal Prasad Upadhyaya, who headed the investigation, told CNN on Monday that Kodai Harijan admitted committing the gruesome crime with his relatives after consulting the priest. In some cultures, priests are believed to have magical or spiritual powers to cure the sick.
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Eleven people in total, including the holy man, have been arrested for their involvement, with the perpetrators facing a life sentence. At least five have confessed to their part in the killing.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/27/asia/nepal-human-sacrifice/

Inhuman.
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Young Nepalese boy slain in human sacrifice ritual (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 OP
That's just tragic. trotsky Jul 2015 #1
I'm sure there are plenty of posters here skepticscott Jul 2015 #6
Is the ailing kid all better? safeinOhio Jul 2015 #2
11 Arrested in Nepal in Possible Ritual Killing of Boy struggle4progress Jul 2015 #3
Boy's murder in Nepal a 'human sacrifice', eleven arrested struggle4progress Jul 2015 #4
I would like to correct a sentence Cartoonist Jul 2015 #8
I have very little information on the beliefs involved here struggle4progress Jul 2015 #10
There it is: mental problems Lordquinton Jul 2015 #12
Relationships between mental illness and crime, and whether the ill person struggle4progress Jul 2015 #14
Where are your links to back that up? Lordquinton Jul 2015 #15
So, the long and extensive list of links? Lordquinton Jul 2015 #17
Been 4 days now, I'm sure you are building up a huge post of links to back up your point Lordquinton Aug 2015 #19
Agh. How brutal and so sad. Glad the authorities have stepped in to prosecute the murder. (nt) pinto Jul 2015 #5
this seems to have triggered a google gish gallop. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #7
mental illness poverty imperialism isolated incident drugs alcohol unusual beliefs.... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #9
So in this case religion is a mental illness Lordquinton Jul 2015 #13
Oh, so that's why so many posts are missing for me. n/t trotsky Jul 2015 #11
Sickening AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #16
What sort of gods would demand the slaying of children? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #18
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
6. I'm sure there are plenty of posters here
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jul 2015

who will argue to their last breath that this had nothing to do with religion, that it was all mental illness. And that believing shit that isn't true doesn't hurt anyone.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
3. 11 Arrested in Nepal in Possible Ritual Killing of Boy
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

By BHADRA SHARMA and NIDA NAJAR
JULY 26, 2015

... The boy, Jivan Kohar, 10, had been missing since Tuesday, the same day that a neighbor hosted a gathering of villagers in which he said that his own son was ill, possessed by evil spirits, and would need a human sacrifice.

“Nobody took him seriously,” said Ram Baran Kohar, Jivan’s paternal grandfather, who was at the gathering ...

“People mainly from remote parts of the country have superstitious beliefs,” said Inspector Pokharel. Yet he said he had never seen anything like “this kind of human sacrifice” ...

The superintendent of police for the Nawalparasi District, Nal Prasad Upadhyay, said that the investigation was continuing and that the suspects would be examined to determine whether they were “mentally fit” ...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/asia/11-arrested-in-nepal-in-possible-ritual-killing-of-boy.html?_r=0

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
4. Boy's murder in Nepal a 'human sacrifice', eleven arrested
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jul 2015

July 27, 2015

... Police superintendent Nal Prasad Upadhyaya said the decomposed body of Kohar, who had been missing for three days, was recovered from a bush on Friday in Kudiya village in Nawalparasi district ...

"All the villagers say the boy was killed in a case of human sacrifice, because the suspects were superstitious and believed in witchcraft," he said ...

Shaman healers and mystics are a common presence in the Himalayan nation, especially in remote villages with poor access to healthcare ...


http://www.smh.com.au/world/boys-murder-in-nepal-a-human-sacrifice-eleven-arrested-20150726-gikyyt.html

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
8. I would like to correct a sentence
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:38 AM
Jul 2015

"All the villagers say the boy was killed in a case of human sacrifice, because the suspects were superstitious and believed in witchcraft,"

The suspects were superstitious and believed in God.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
10. I have very little information on the beliefs involved here
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015

but I might expect more accurate accounts from press in the region than from foreign press

ekantipur indicates location ("about 20km south of the East-West Highway&quot and names those arrested: Kodai admitted his involvement in the crime and said that he “sacrificed” the boy ... to “chase away the evil spirits” from the body of his ailing son Bijaya. As induced by shaman Ganga .. Kodai .. murdered him to cure Bijaya, who reportedly demanded human sacrifice to exorcise evil spirits from his body ... Kodai said that he now felt guilty but he did that all to cure his son. The incident has mostly affected the women and children ... She said the children in the village are afraid to go outdoors ... Parents have stopped sending the children to schools ... Local administration has also mobilised security personnel to the village to assure residents that they were safe

The Hindu reports: a neighbour hosted a gathering of villagers in which he said that his own son was ill, possessed by evil spirits, and would need a human sacrifice. “Nobody took him seriously,” said Ram Baran Kohar, Jivan’s paternal grandfather, who was at the gathering ... Inspector Jagat Bhandu Pokharel of the Beltari area police .. originally handled the case before it was transferred to the district police ... “People mainly from remote parts of the country have superstitious beliefs,” said Mr. Pokharel. Yet he said he had never seen anything like “this kind of human sacrifice” ... The holy man, Ganga Chamar, was among those arrested ... The superintendent of police for the Nawalparasi district, Nal Prasad Upadhyay, said that the investigation was continuing and that the suspects would be examined to determine whether they were “mentally fit”

According to The Himalayan, One of the suspects, Kodai, reportedly told police that his son Bijay suffered some health problem on Tuesday and demanded that he had to be “pacified with human flesh.” The teen Bijay had said so under the “spell of a ghost that was driving him then,” Kodai claimed. Then, Kodai decided to offer the neighbourhood child to the god for the health of his son ... Meanwhile, locals destroyed the house of Kodai after the incident came to their knowledge

So we seem to have a story that involves a sick child "under the spell of a ghost" or "possessed by evil spirits" demanding "to be pacified with human flesh" and a local "shaman" or "holy man" advising the father who then calls locals together to explain that a "human sacrifice" is needed, a threat that no one takes seriously until someone is actually murdered. Although some accounts refer to "a religious ritual" or offering "the neighbourhood child to the god," the accounts are non-specific; local outrage suggests this was an unusual and unexpected event; and some authorities raised the question of mental problems





Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
12. There it is: mental problems
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe use your google to educate ourself that most crimes are comitted by sane and mentally healthy people and the mentally ill are most often the victim of violent crime, partly because of people like you who go out of their way to stigmatize them.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
14. Relationships between mental illness and crime, and whether the ill person
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jul 2015

is likely to be victim or offender, seem to depend on both diagnosis and offense

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
17. So, the long and extensive list of links?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jul 2015

I assume it's gonna be a big dump, as it's taking literally days for you do come up with something that usually takes you 5 minutes.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
19. Been 4 days now, I'm sure you are building up a huge post of links to back up your point
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:48 PM
Aug 2015

as it takes you less than a minute usually to supply 10 links that are tangentially related to a subject normally.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. this seems to have triggered a google gish gallop.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jul 2015

You probably should put some sort of warning in posts like this.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
9. mental illness poverty imperialism isolated incident drugs alcohol unusual beliefs....
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:44 AM
Jul 2015

...the priest/shaman/rabbi/imam/augur/high inquisitor/vicar/witch doctor never said anything about (insert atrocity here).

Ergo: not religion. Checkmate, atheists.

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