Would an omnipotent God be restricted to doing Good?

[Greatest I am]

Would an omnipotent God be restricted to doing Good?

Scriptures have God doing many things, that without the Christian double moral standard, Christians would have to condemn God. Christians, as in Job and other places where God is shown to kill innocent babies and children, forgive God for what they would condemn people for doing. Christians say that God can do the immoral to us because he created us and owns us and can be an Indian giver of life because he gives it. An excuse I find repugnant.

If God is restricted to only doing good, then it cannot be said that he is omnipotent and all powerful?

We are commanded to place no one above God for any attribute. Yet it seems that in terms of being sinners and being the epitome of evil, we are all more powerful than God and would all put our names above his if he is restricted to doing Good.

Can God be omnipotent when restricted from doing evil?

Regards
DL

[Nitram]

1. I'd rather argue about how many angels...

...can dance on the head of a pin.

[Jester Messiah]

2. The god of judeo-christian scripture is inherently self-justifying.

Whatever he does is by definition good. If your morals conflict with his, for whatever reason, then you're automatically in the wrong. Doesn't matter that he contradicts himself often; it's assumed that he has unknowable reasons that will explain all the contradictions.

Seems like horseshit to me but I didn't invent the religion.

[Greatest I am]

3. Seems like!!!

It is horseshit my friend.

It is only what brain dead sheeple will con themselves into believing.

Regards
DL

[pinto]

4. How can brain dead sheeple con themselves if they are brain dead?

[Greatest I am]

5. They listen

to slightly less brain dead priests.

Regards
DL

[Promethean]

6. Craig says without god we'd be

"Lost in relativism." The implication is that if you don't have some super extra special authority declaring something to be bad then you cannot say it is bad. This is based in the dogma we as humans are "fallen" and "sinful" so we cannot actually be good on our own. We aren't good enough to make up moral and ethical codes for ourselves. I personally take this argument as an insult because it is. He is literally claiming that the only reason I am not out hurting people right now is because of his super extra special authority and not because I simply choose not to do such things. He is claiming the same thing about you dear reader as well.

Of course he got this from one of the most common interpretations of the bible there is. For every christian who rejects the dogma of "sin" there are far more christians who believe like Craig does. Don't you dare pull out the no true scotsman. He's pulling this from the same book you pull your nicer dogma from unless you've pulled a Jefferson and gotten liberal with some scissors.

[Greatest I am]

7. I agree that

his literalist views are pure dogma and an insult to any thinking person.

Oops. That describes literalists to a T.

I wrote this on our so called fallen state.

We all do as much as we can in seeking knowledge. The problem for unfortunate Christians is the perception of the terms knowledge and truth.

The idea of Jesus dying for us was created to produce a sense of indebtedness that the population is supposed to feel.

The idea of the fall was created to have people interpret the scripture in a way that makes them think that seeking knowledge is a sin.

This makes it easier for Christians to be pushed to become unthinking sheeple that can be easily manipulated, --- just as the re-writers of the bible and interpretation biased preachers want.

Christianity can thus profit from fear and indebtedness in this manner.

In the end, knowledge and truth are for our own enlightenment. Seeking untruth is a form of transgression and that is what priests and imams try to produce. Priests and imams are quite skilled in helping people lie to themselves.

Conditioning that some would call indoctrination or brainwashing when pushed to it's present extreme.

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That aside. The Jews do not have a fall concept or an Original sin as they saw and wrote of Eden as man's elevation and not his fall.

There is not enough money generated by people with normal egos instead of a beaten one like Christianity does to an ego.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/20/comparative-theodicy/

Regards
DL

[safeinOhio]

8. Little has changed

[Greatest I am]

10. Not so.

The fastest growing demographic is non-believers.

It is a slow grow but we progress. People are not nearly as gullible as before.

Regards
DL

[AtheistCrusader]

9. The abrahamic bible staates/claims God is the source of evil.

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Makes it, does it, issues it, hell, he made lucifer even.

[Greatest I am]

11. It does but

Christians tell me that the evil God does somehow produces such good that it should be called good.

Pure self-serving delusion that. My country right or wrong B.S.

Regards
DL

[LostOne4Ever]

12. Omnipotence is a contradiction. It can never truly exist.

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]If there was any being that was omnipotent it would have to be able to create a rock so heavy that no being could lift it. However, if there was a rock so heavy that the being that created it could not move it the creator would cease being omnipotent.

Poof! All omnipotent deities vanish in a poof of logic.

Further, if there was an omnipotent being would it even matter? It would want for nothing and therefore have no motivation to do anything; thus, it would do nothing.

Therein, lies the secret to omnipotence. Nothing is omnipotent, and omnipotence exist solely in nothingness.

Of course, with the exception of the Flying spaghetti monster, may his maranara ever be fresh, to whom all logic and common sense does not apply!!!

RAMEN![/font]