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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:40 AM Jul 2015

Fake Gay Panic News Fools Christians

http://religiondispatches.org/fake-gay-panic-news-fools-christians/

By Sarah Posner July 14, 2015

Christians are just too gullible. That’s the message from Ed Stetzer, writing at Christianity Today, about internet hoaxes masquerading as news that duped Christian readers who then shared them widely.

Believing these stories, Stetzer wrote, and sharing them via social networks, is just embarrassing.

Yet these “news stories” play into fears the religious right has been stoking for years, and with more intensity since the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges two and a half weeks ago. One piece of “news” that Stetzer said many Christians fell for was about a Vermont pastor who was jailed for refusing to marry a gay couple. The story came from a fake news site. Not like Jon Stewart fake news. Or even Onion fake news. Actual fake news.

“By the way,” Stetzer added, “if you are a pastor you should already know that no one can make you officiate anything. In fact, you can refuse to officiate an interracial marriage. You’d be an idiot and a racist, but you wouldn’t be arrested.”

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Fake Gay Panic News Fools Christians (Original Post) cbayer Jul 2015 OP
Religion makes people stupid skepticscott Jul 2015 #1
It provides scripture for reason rock Jul 2015 #2
Thread winner, right out of the gate. bvf Jul 2015 #3
nope Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #4
The Armor of God trotsky Jul 2015 #5
they painted with a very wide brush Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #6
Was anything said that was false? n/t trotsky Jul 2015 #7
yes Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #8
Okie dokie, then. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #9
Everything ---- the word Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #17
Oh, how did I know skepticscott Jul 2015 #12
Strange how you say things and know nothing about me Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #18
I've seen how you post skepticscott Jul 2015 #19
religion practiced correctly can help believers Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #20
But of course, you will claim skepticscott Jul 2015 #21
rug----- is that you?? Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #22
Yep Lordquinton Jul 2015 #10
And there we have it skepticscott Jul 2015 #11
wrong foxface666 Jul 2015 #13
You mean other than the OP? skepticscott Jul 2015 #15
Fundamentalism makes people stupid, like very little else. It poisons everything it touches. uppityperson Jul 2015 #14
And is there a bigger, more oblivious skepticscott Jul 2015 #16

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. The Armor of God
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2009/11/armor-of-god.html

Religion is ultimately dependent on belief in invisible beings, inaudible voices, intangible entities, undetectable forces, and events and judgments that happen after we die.

It therefore has no reality check.

And it is therefore uniquely armored against criticism, questioning, and self-correction. It is uniquely armored against anything that might stop it from spinning into extreme absurdity, extreme denial of reality... and extreme, grotesque immorality.

...

Any other ideology or philosophy or hypothesis about the world is eventually expected to pony up. It's expected to prove itself true and/or useful, or else correct itself, or else fall by the wayside. With religion, that is emphatically not the case. Because religion is a belief in the invisible and unknowable -- and it's therefore never expected to prove that it's right, or even show good evidence for why it's right -- its capacity to do harm can spin into the stratosphere.
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
12. Oh, how did I know
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jul 2015

that the accusation of broad-brushing would be quickly unsheathed? Can charges of bigotry and being a theophobe be far behind?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
19. I've seen how you post
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jul 2015

Content-free. And I'm all too familiar with the mindset you're exhibiting. It's rampant in here, so if it wasn't you to trot out the "broad-brushing" accusation, it would have been someone else.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
20. religion practiced correctly can help believers
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jul 2015

organized religion will be the downfall of this country


religion is just a set of beliefs and may or may not contain a belief in a deity
and I am well aware that this definition is different than the excepted definition
it is time for a change

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
21. But of course, you will claim
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015

that any way of practicing religion that harms people isn't "correct". A nice NTS argument, but hardly one to be taken seriously.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
16. And is there a bigger, more oblivious
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jul 2015

more stupid-inducing form of fundamentalism than religious fundamentalism?

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