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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:39 AM Jul 2015

Fox News' Pastor Robert Jeffress: Jesus Wouldn't Protect Undocumented Immigrants

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-correspondent-churches-that-house-undocumented-people-arent-following-jesus_55a42df6e4b0b8145f735f05

Carol Kuruvilla
Associate Religion Editor

Posted: 07/14/2015 | Edited: 07/14/2015 09:40 AM EDT

Two dozen congregations in 12 U.S. cities have reportedly opened their doors as sanctuaries for undocumented immigrants facing deportation. Because federal agents usually avoid arresting immigrants inside churches, sanctuary seekers often live inside the churches 24/7 and are cared for by congregation members.

But the Rev. Robert Jeffress, a Fox News religious correspondent, said these churches are misguided.

“A lot of these liberal churches that harbor illegal immigrants who are criminals say they are following the example of Jesus,” Jeffress, pastor of a 12,000-member megachurch in Dallas, said during a “Fox and Friends” segment on Sunday. Instead, “they are following the Jesus of their imagination rather than the Jesus of the Bible,” he said.

“Jesus was not this wimpy little guy who walked around munching sunflower seeds and saying nice things to people,” Jeffress said. “The real Jesus of the Bible said, ‘Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.’ That is: Obey the government.”

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Fox News' Pastor Robert Jeffress: Jesus Wouldn't Protect Undocumented Immigrants (Original Post) cbayer Jul 2015 OP
As I said in another thread about this Jeffress clown... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #1
Interesting change they made there. cbayer Jul 2015 #2
Meh, he just cherry-picks different parts of the bible. trotsky Jul 2015 #3
+1 pinto Jul 2015 #11
Key words: as (you) read it. trotsky Jul 2015 #12
Simply put: Robert Jeffress is a heretic. n/t Sinistrous Jul 2015 #4
He and millions of other Christians would likely say the same about you. trotsky Jul 2015 #5
"‘Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s" Renew Deal Jul 2015 #6
This seems such an odd thing to quote in this context. cbayer Jul 2015 #16
+1 DetlefK Jul 2015 #20
I wonder what these guys plan to say to Jesus when they meet him. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #7
I'm convinced none of them actually believe. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #10
the only gates they will see are the GATES OF HELL Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #13
I don't think anyone deserves hell. trotsky Jul 2015 #14
many christians would not agree with you Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #15
If hell exists, I would rather go there... trotsky Jul 2015 #19
Don't you just love misanthropists who claim to speak for Jesus? Nitram Jul 2015 #8
Love them only insofar as what they say speaks volumes cbayer Jul 2015 #17
They can always find safeinOhio Jul 2015 #9
When it suits their puposes, but they miss that which is so obvious. cbayer Jul 2015 #18
I don't think they find loopholes as much as they just ignore... Nitram Jul 2015 #21
As does every Christian, basically. trotsky Jul 2015 #22
I think for many it's more sinister than that. cbayer Jul 2015 #23

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. As I said in another thread about this Jeffress clown...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jul 2015

1 Corinthians 13:13-- "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." That's King James, the one the fundies believe in; curiously, most other translations use "love" instead of "charity".

I'm seeing the Sanctuary movement starting to come back as a backlash against the revival of anti-immigrant hysteria. The concept of Sanctuary is as ancient as Moses and the command to set up towns as sanctuaries. Even the medieval Roman church accepted Sanctuary as a fundamental Christian tenet.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Interesting change they made there.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jul 2015

I grew up in church that provided sanctuary and thought incorrectly that this was something churches in general did.

I am glad to see the movement coming back in regards to undocumented immigrants.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. Meh, he just cherry-picks different parts of the bible.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jul 2015

Everyone is able to come up with a reason to discard the parts of the bible they don't like.

Renew Deal

(81,870 posts)
6. "‘Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Doesn't that mean "pay your taxes?" And now that same sex marriage is legal I'm sure he will obey the govt.

Renew Deal

(81,870 posts)
7. I wonder what these guys plan to say to Jesus when they meet him.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

As I'm sure thy expect to meet him.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. I'm convinced none of them actually believe.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jul 2015

Same for most priests and pastors.

Going through the motions is profitable though.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. I don't think anyone deserves hell.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

The concept itself is wholly incompatible with any notion of morality or decency.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
15. many christians would not agree with you
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jul 2015

I have no idea what is out there
I just hope there are no republicans

Nitram

(22,868 posts)
21. I don't think they find loopholes as much as they just ignore...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jul 2015

...the bits that contradict their own fossilized view of the world.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
22. As does every Christian, basically.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jul 2015

There's a lot in the bible that no decent person should accept.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
23. I think for many it's more sinister than that.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

This guy, for example, reminds me of a carnival shill.

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