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OK, who's responsible for this leak?
http://harddawn.com/are-militant-atheists-using-chemtrails-to-poison-the-angels-in-heaven/
edgineered
(2,101 posts)President George W. Bush famously fought against the scientists entrenched in his administration. At many points they promoted evolution theory and global warming over good old-fashioned common sense. They tried to uproot Christianity in our schools through activist judges. And while President Bush fought the good fight, he ultimately did not win the battle. The long line of anti-theists ruling the inner halls of power since Lyndon Johnson remained in control.
drm604
(16,230 posts)Is is real extremism, or is it satire? It's so ridiculous that I lean towards it being satire. The website's name "Hard Dawn" (hard-on) pretty much settles the question.
Promethean
(468 posts)is totally legit. This is very obviously a serious website about serious issues.
Silent3
(15,254 posts)...that I even had to wonder for a few seconds whether or not this was intended as satire.
randys1
(16,286 posts)struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)http://harddawn.com/why-isnt-america-sending-bibles-into-space/
struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I'd ask, but I am too fearful.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)
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[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]It is
羊の年
The year of the goat/sheep
after all!![/center][/font]
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)that you are participating in here, so it seems that light hearted mocking is Very Disappointing to the self appointed forum Tone Police while overt nastiness is perfectly acceptable.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)"go back" to hating women, racial minorities, and LGBTQers if we didn't "hate" religion. I'm really disappointed you couldn't take a stand against such awful behavior. A few references to goats seems pretty harmless in comparison to viciously smearing fellow DUers with hate.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)disappointing? It is not much different than making a reference to Olive Garden on DU.
Or are you reading something else into it?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Perhaps you are not aware of that, but that is the case.
I hope it never happens to you.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)They are adorable.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)Who despite being told time and again that a certain phrase is insulting (4 different members told him so in one thread) feigns ignorance and then tries to make it out as if those objecting to the term are bigots of some sort.
The member you are referring goes out of their way to insult nonbeleivers and gun supporters (not that I care one way or the other on the latter) and does so while insincerely pretending he does not know he is doing so.
The member you are referring to brought up the goat in the first place.
Bullying does not involve responding to someone who is on the offensive. Jokingly referencing something that the person themselves brought up (that they own/raise/and like goats) does not compare with trying to associate vocal non-believers with advocates of violence. That is the equivalent of responding to a punch by saying "you meanie."
And I have been subjected to something similar. From insults because I wanted to spice up my font, to insults because I like cartoon/video game avatars. Difference being I didn't go around insulting people.
If he does not like the goat joke, maybe he should quit with his insults and shtick, no one is buying it anyway.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)or any number of other things. I disagree vehemently with him on multiple topics and do not hesitate to challenge him strongly.
But what you all are doing is a distinctly different thing.
If you don't see this as overt, juvenile bullying, then keep it up. It's some ugly shit, but I am sure there are some rewards in there for you somewhere.
Nothing even remotely like this has ever happened to you here and, again, I hope it never does.
I truly thought you had a sensitivity and sensibility that rose above this.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)that people who don't deserve to be taken seriously aren't ever, EVER taken seriously.
And as I recall, you went on and on for months, saying to everyone who made you look foolish "Leave me alone!", and accusing everyone in sight of "bullying", "harrassing", "personal attacks" and even "stalking". Well, it's no more meaningful now than it was then.
okasha
(11,573 posts)is himself a nonbeliever. He claims the adjective "militant" for himself--as do I--in its sense of "confrontational." No one is accusing anyone of actual or potential violent behavior.
What you are participating in is an attempt to drive a member out of this group because he does not espouse the brand of atheism officially approved in A&A. Not inappropriately, that's called "scapegoating."
It's ugly. But unlike cbayer, I'm not surprised at your participation.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)And we know you think this member is a bastion of forthrightness, civility and intellectual integrity. Not everyone shares your misguided opinion.
BTW, look up "scapegoating". In your attempt to be clever, you've made yourself look as silly as what you're defending. No one is trying to lay blame for their own wrongs on any other poster.
And no, you've never claimed the term "militant atheist" for yourself, and it's offensive. As are many of the much uglier comments you've posted here, like accusing other posters of faking their support for LGBT rights as an excuse to bash religion. So point that finger at yourself, okasha. No one here is buying.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)that they would "go back" to hating minorities, women, and LGBTQers if they didn't hate religion. You have ceded any moral authority you may have thought you had with such ridiculous and spiteful claims.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Seriously?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)It's at the point that it's not really funny anymore. It's just plain sad.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Where's the scholarly examination of angelic physiology?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)nt place?
That's fuckin' poetry right there.
(This post contains non-existent goats, pictured below.)
demwing
(16,916 posts)Loose lips, yada yada
cbayer
(146,218 posts)It is, of course, a total spoof.
http://irregulartimes.com/2014/08/16/hard-dawns-beautiful-satire-of-right-wing-conspiracy-theorists/
stone space
(6,498 posts)But that picture reminds me of glyphosate (Roundup Ultra) being sprayed on Colombia peasants as part of "Plan Colombia", along with an agent to make it stick to the skin.
It is human beings being poisoned, not angels, although the kids do look like little angels.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)took the INS/Border Patrol to court to stop them from spraying Roundup on cane lining the banks of the Rio Grande--and, just incidentally, on several thousand low-income Hispanic families living adjacent to the river.
Damn right we're "militant!"
stone space
(6,498 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)We couldn't have done it without a militant environmentalist priest, a couple of militant environmentalist atheists, and another couple of militant environmentalist Baptists. And our militant environmentalist lawyers--can't forget them.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Here's a little sampling:
"We advocate militant nonviolence as our means of achieving justice for our people, ..."
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/architects-of-peace/Chavez/essay.html
http://www.ufw.org/_page.php?menu=research&inc=history/09.html
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/cesarchave108935.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=c_VE3xUR5FEC&pg=PR10&lpg=PR10&source=bl&ots=RO4GjYzcpC&sig=CX7lTxjB3XobI0M7u9hGe9kwBMU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1CnuVLCnDMWPyATEs4DIDw&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q&f=false
okasha
(11,573 posts)that "militant" doesn't equate to "violent."
I suppose I should mention by way of disclaimer that we militant environmentalists didn't shoot up the courtroom or threaten the judge's family to obtain the ruling that stopped the BP from poisoning several thousand people and hundreds of miles of vega and riverine woodlands.
hunter
(38,322 posts)9/11 was another experiment that didn't work, and an unpermitted NYC demolition too.
The Twin Towers had to come down.
Our future is cloudy.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)hunter
(38,322 posts)... until I stumble out of bed and find myself in the NOW, making some coffee, and watching the sun rise.
But I did take that picture, and I'm fairly certain it was a U.S. Navy experiment, and I wasn't "off my meds."
I'm okay with that.
Last night I dreamed of my long dead Army Air Force / Apollo Project engineer grandfather. He took me to his emeritus office, an office that hadn't yet been reassigned after he retired.
His former colleagues were happy to see him, and they were happy to meet me too. They gave me a full unlimited pass to the entire facility, even the machine shops and all the tools and materials.
Pre-computer days. Perfection for me, I know how to use a slide rule, and I know my way around a machine shop. Exotic materials, no problem, and I have a half dozen fancy slide rules stashed away, and one of my grandfather's old film cameras too.
But in this *REAL* reality, past the post World War II of the early 'sixties, past the moon landings, when my grandfather's home bases were transformed into very, very, very boring suburban upscale housing and he was dead, well, here I am.
All I've really inherited from him is a few pleasant dreams and many, many nightmares.
That's what I have to work with,
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Would make a good movie, I think. The picture is great. I would have bet it was photo-shoped.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Yes we are.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)the more stuff I see and hear get blamed on these so-called "militant atheists," the more I want to join them. Do they have an official web site or something? Because
In case I need to, I will add this for those who don't know me:
okasha
(11,573 posts)on a satirical site.
It criticizes fundamentalists, not atheists.