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Silent3

(15,254 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:35 PM Feb 2015

Are Militant Atheists Using Chemtrails to Poison the Angels in Heaven?

OK, who's responsible for this leak?



http://harddawn.com/are-militant-atheists-using-chemtrails-to-poison-the-angels-in-heaven/

Atheists shake with contempt at the thought of love and decency. Their whole lives are dedicated to nothingness, to the gaping void of pain that nihilism defines. Indeed, atheists love pain. They love pain in their sexual rituals, in their drug addictions and in their secret globalist power schemes. Why do we have war? It’s the atheists who spread contempt of God and invite such reckless notions of communism and Islam.
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Are Militant Atheists Using Chemtrails to Poison the Angels in Heaven? (Original Post) Silent3 Feb 2015 OP
It says Bush was out to get their goat - edgineered Feb 2015 #1
Poe's Law drm604 Feb 2015 #2
But the picture of the guy with an assault rifle erection Promethean Feb 2015 #8
It's a pretty sad statement on the reality of our culture... Silent3 Feb 2015 #9
Is that site a joke? I cant tell if it is sarcasm or what... randys1 Feb 2015 #3
Why Isn’t America Sending Bibles Into Space? struggle4progress Feb 2015 #37
Hardcore Marijuana May Cause Ear Maggots in Unsanitary Youths struggle4progress Feb 2015 #38
You would have to address this to our only self proclaimed militant atheist. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #4
Are they doing this with goats for co-pilots? LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #5
I am really disappointed to see you participating in this. cbayer Feb 2015 #12
Gosh there is plenty of nasty shit slinging Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #13
One of your best buddies has suggested that many of us here would... trotsky Feb 2015 #15
How is referencing an old post in A&A LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #16
Because this goat meme is an ugly bullying of an individual member. cbayer Feb 2015 #17
It's a Billy Goat, not a bully goat. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #18
Y U HATEZ GHOTES? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #19
The member you are referring to is the one LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #20
I am not arguing that he may not be difficult or insulting cbayer Feb 2015 #22
There are rewards for making sure skepticscott Feb 2015 #28
The member you are referring to okasha Feb 2015 #29
Yes, we know you'd like to peddle that nonsense skepticscott Feb 2015 #32
What's ugly is your hateful and wholly unsupported accusation against fellow DUers... trotsky Feb 2015 #36
Are you for real? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #21
Sadly, yes. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #33
Bad satire. bvf Feb 2015 #6
So a non-existent thing is using a non-existent thing to poison a non-existent thing in a non-existe AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #7
Sshhhh! demwing Feb 2015 #10
OMG, this is hilarious. cbayer Feb 2015 #11
I haven't poisoned any Angels that I know of reciently. stone space Feb 2015 #14
I am glad you spoke up. We are all very fearful. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #23
An environmental group I belong to okasha Feb 2015 #30
Bravo! stone space Feb 2015 #39
Thanks. okasha Feb 2015 #42
Cesar Chavez had a few things to say about militancy. stone space Feb 2015 #41
There's all the proof any rational person needs okasha Feb 2015 #43
"Chemtrails" were an experiment that didn't work. hunter Feb 2015 #24
You're scaring me Hunter. cbayer Feb 2015 #25
My deepest darkest nightmares are horrible and I'm never quite sure if they are real or not.... hunter Feb 2015 #27
Thanks for the story. cbayer Feb 2015 #35
Yes. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #26
I have been agnostic since my early teens, but Jamastiene Feb 2015 #31
The quote is from a satirical piece okasha Feb 2015 #34
Absolutely. Iggo Feb 2015 #40

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
1. It says Bush was out to get their goat -
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:42 PM
Feb 2015


Links to Radical Atheist Movement

President George W. Bush famously fought against the scientists entrenched in his administration. At many points they promoted evolution “theory” and “global warming” over good old-fashioned common sense. They tried to uproot Christianity in our schools through activist judges. And while President Bush fought the good fight, he ultimately did not win the battle. The long line of anti-theists ruling the inner halls of power since Lyndon Johnson remained in control.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
2. Poe's Law
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:46 PM
Feb 2015

Is is real extremism, or is it satire? It's so ridiculous that I lean towards it being satire. The website's name "Hard Dawn" (hard-on) pretty much settles the question.

Promethean

(468 posts)
8. But the picture of the guy with an assault rifle erection
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:06 AM
Feb 2015

is totally legit. This is very obviously a serious website about serious issues.

Silent3

(15,254 posts)
9. It's a pretty sad statement on the reality of our culture...
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:40 AM
Feb 2015

...that I even had to wonder for a few seconds whether or not this was intended as satire.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
37. Why Isn’t America Sending Bibles Into Space?
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 12:55 PM
Feb 2015
... So why not send Bibles into space? We have the technology. We have the printing presses. I would love to see mountains of Bibles on the Moon. I want to see lakes of Bibles on Mars. We could ring Saturn with golden bound Bibles that shimmer in the sunlight ...
http://harddawn.com/why-isnt-america-sending-bibles-into-space/
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. You would have to address this to our only self proclaimed militant atheist.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:07 PM
Feb 2015

I'd ask, but I am too fearful.

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
5. Are they doing this with goats for co-pilots?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:28 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

[center]

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]It is

羊の年

The year of the goat/sheep

after all!![/center][/font]

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. Gosh there is plenty of nasty shit slinging
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:14 AM
Feb 2015

that you are participating in here, so it seems that light hearted mocking is Very Disappointing to the self appointed forum Tone Police while overt nastiness is perfectly acceptable.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
15. One of your best buddies has suggested that many of us here would...
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:09 PM
Feb 2015

"go back" to hating women, racial minorities, and LGBTQers if we didn't "hate" religion. I'm really disappointed you couldn't take a stand against such awful behavior. A few references to goats seems pretty harmless in comparison to viciously smearing fellow DUers with hate.

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
16. How is referencing an old post in A&A
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:19 PM
Feb 2015

disappointing? It is not much different than making a reference to Olive Garden on DU.

Or are you reading something else into it?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
17. Because this goat meme is an ugly bullying of an individual member.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:31 PM
Feb 2015

Perhaps you are not aware of that, but that is the case.

I hope it never happens to you.

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
20. The member you are referring to is the one
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:57 PM
Feb 2015

Who despite being told time and again that a certain phrase is insulting (4 different members told him so in one thread) feigns ignorance and then tries to make it out as if those objecting to the term are bigots of some sort.

The member you are referring goes out of their way to insult nonbeleivers and gun supporters (not that I care one way or the other on the latter) and does so while insincerely pretending he does not know he is doing so.

The member you are referring to brought up the goat in the first place.

Bullying does not involve responding to someone who is on the offensive. Jokingly referencing something that the person themselves brought up (that they own/raise/and like goats) does not compare with trying to associate vocal non-believers with advocates of violence. That is the equivalent of responding to a punch by saying "you meanie."

And I have been subjected to something similar. From insults because I wanted to spice up my font, to insults because I like cartoon/video game avatars. Difference being I didn't go around insulting people.

If he does not like the goat joke, maybe he should quit with his insults and shtick, no one is buying it anyway.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
22. I am not arguing that he may not be difficult or insulting
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015

or any number of other things. I disagree vehemently with him on multiple topics and do not hesitate to challenge him strongly.

But what you all are doing is a distinctly different thing.

If you don't see this as overt, juvenile bullying, then keep it up. It's some ugly shit, but I am sure there are some rewards in there for you somewhere.

Nothing even remotely like this has ever happened to you here and, again, I hope it never does.

I truly thought you had a sensitivity and sensibility that rose above this.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
28. There are rewards for making sure
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 09:30 PM
Feb 2015

that people who don't deserve to be taken seriously aren't ever, EVER taken seriously.

And as I recall, you went on and on for months, saying to everyone who made you look foolish "Leave me alone!", and accusing everyone in sight of "bullying", "harrassing", "personal attacks" and even "stalking". Well, it's no more meaningful now than it was then.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
29. The member you are referring to
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 09:54 PM
Feb 2015

is himself a nonbeliever. He claims the adjective "militant" for himself--as do I--in its sense of "confrontational." No one is accusing anyone of actual or potential violent behavior.

What you are participating in is an attempt to drive a member out of this group because he does not espouse the brand of atheism officially approved in A&A. Not inappropriately, that's called "scapegoating."

It's ugly. But unlike cbayer, I'm not surprised at your participation.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
32. Yes, we know you'd like to peddle that nonsense
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:56 PM
Feb 2015

And we know you think this member is a bastion of forthrightness, civility and intellectual integrity. Not everyone shares your misguided opinion.

BTW, look up "scapegoating". In your attempt to be clever, you've made yourself look as silly as what you're defending. No one is trying to lay blame for their own wrongs on any other poster.

And no, you've never claimed the term "militant atheist" for yourself, and it's offensive. As are many of the much uglier comments you've posted here, like accusing other posters of faking their support for LGBT rights as an excuse to bash religion. So point that finger at yourself, okasha. No one here is buying.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
36. What's ugly is your hateful and wholly unsupported accusation against fellow DUers...
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

that they would "go back" to hating minorities, women, and LGBTQers if they didn't hate religion. You have ceded any moral authority you may have thought you had with such ridiculous and spiteful claims.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. So a non-existent thing is using a non-existent thing to poison a non-existent thing in a non-existe
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:25 AM
Feb 2015

nt place?

That's fuckin' poetry right there.



(This post contains non-existent goats, pictured below.)

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
14. I haven't poisoned any Angels that I know of reciently.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:59 AM
Feb 2015

But that picture reminds me of glyphosate (Roundup Ultra) being sprayed on Colombia peasants as part of "Plan Colombia", along with an agent to make it stick to the skin.

It is human beings being poisoned, not angels, although the kids do look like little angels.



okasha

(11,573 posts)
30. An environmental group I belong to
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:02 PM
Feb 2015

took the INS/Border Patrol to court to stop them from spraying Roundup on cane lining the banks of the Rio Grande--and, just incidentally, on several thousand low-income Hispanic families living adjacent to the river.

Damn right we're "militant!"

okasha

(11,573 posts)
42. Thanks.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:26 AM
Feb 2015

We couldn't have done it without a militant environmentalist priest, a couple of militant environmentalist atheists, and another couple of militant environmentalist Baptists. And our militant environmentalist lawyers--can't forget them.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
41. Cesar Chavez had a few things to say about militancy.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 04:55 PM
Feb 2015
Damn right we're "militant!"




Here's a little sampling:

César Chavez Reflects on Working Toward Peace

"We advocate militant nonviolence as our means of achieving justice for our people, ..."

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/architects-of-peace/Chavez/essay.html


"...people think non-violence is really weak and non-militant. These are misconceptions that people have because they don't understand what non-violence means. Non-violence takes more guts, if I can put it bluntly, than violence. Most violent acts are accomplished by getting the opponent off guard, and it doesn't take that much character, I think, if one wants to do it."

http://www.ufw.org/_page.php?menu=research&inc=history/09.html


"In some cases non-violence requires more militancy than violence."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/cesarchave108935.html


"We are militant. You have to be militant to stand on a picket line with a gun pointed at your head. You have to be militant to keep pressure on growers all the time, pushing them back from barrier to the next...We have found prayer important in nonviolent work, but it's most effective when accompanied by lots of hard picketing"

https://books.google.com/books?id=c_VE3xUR5FEC&pg=PR10&lpg=PR10&source=bl&ots=RO4GjYzcpC&sig=CX7lTxjB3XobI0M7u9hGe9kwBMU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1CnuVLCnDMWPyATEs4DIDw&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q&f=false

okasha

(11,573 posts)
43. There's all the proof any rational person needs
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:55 AM
Feb 2015

that "militant" doesn't equate to "violent."

I suppose I should mention by way of disclaimer that we militant environmentalists didn't shoot up the courtroom or threaten the judge's family to obtain the ruling that stopped the BP from poisoning several thousand people and hundreds of miles of vega and riverine woodlands.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
24. "Chemtrails" were an experiment that didn't work.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 06:23 PM
Feb 2015

9/11 was another experiment that didn't work, and an unpermitted NYC demolition too.

The Twin Towers had to come down.

Our future is cloudy.








hunter

(38,322 posts)
27. My deepest darkest nightmares are horrible and I'm never quite sure if they are real or not....
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 09:04 PM
Feb 2015

... until I stumble out of bed and find myself in the NOW, making some coffee, and watching the sun rise.

But I did take that picture, and I'm fairly certain it was a U.S. Navy experiment, and I wasn't "off my meds."

I'm okay with that.

Last night I dreamed of my long dead Army Air Force / Apollo Project engineer grandfather. He took me to his emeritus office, an office that hadn't yet been reassigned after he retired.

His former colleagues were happy to see him, and they were happy to meet me too. They gave me a full unlimited pass to the entire facility, even the machine shops and all the tools and materials.

Pre-computer days. Perfection for me, I know how to use a slide rule, and I know my way around a machine shop. Exotic materials, no problem, and I have a half dozen fancy slide rules stashed away, and one of my grandfather's old film cameras too.

But in this *REAL* reality, past the post World War II of the early 'sixties, past the moon landings, when my grandfather's home bases were transformed into very, very, very boring suburban upscale housing and he was dead, well, here I am.

All I've really inherited from him is a few pleasant dreams and many, many nightmares.

That's what I have to work with,


cbayer

(146,218 posts)
35. Thanks for the story.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

Would make a good movie, I think. The picture is great. I would have bet it was photo-shoped.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. I have been agnostic since my early teens, but
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:06 PM
Feb 2015

the more stuff I see and hear get blamed on these so-called "militant atheists," the more I want to join them. Do they have an official web site or something? Because

"shake with contempt at the thought of love and decency. Their whole lives are dedicated to nothingness, to the gaping void of pain that nihilism defines. Indeed, atheists love pain. They love pain in their sexual rituals, in their drug addictions and in their secret globalist power schemes."
describes me to a tee. It's almost as if they read my mind. That is pure genius. Where can I sign up?

In case I need to, I will add this for those who don't know me:

okasha

(11,573 posts)
34. The quote is from a satirical piece
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:35 PM
Feb 2015

on a satirical site.

It criticizes fundamentalists, not atheists.

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