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Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:26 AM Feb 2015

The law of robotics

My day has been filled with mirth after reading on DU about the nutcase that wants to convert AI's to Christianity. God forbid! I got to thinking about Isaac Asimov's three rules.

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

The first two resemble Commandments. Number one, You shall not murder. Number two, You shall have no other gods before Me.

It's too bad Douglas Adams is no longer with us. He could have written a great novel about Christian Robots.

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The law of robotics (Original Post) Cartoonist Feb 2015 OP
Well played, cartoonist. longship Feb 2015 #1
Asimov meant the laws for sentinent robots. gordianot Feb 2015 #2
That's because the concept of "robots" intended them as slaves. DetlefK Feb 2015 #3
Christian robots? Adams did give us the Electric Monk muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #4
Harry Harrison LunaSea May 2015 #5
The Streets of Ashkelon beam me up scottie May 2015 #7
Thanks LunaSea May 2015 #14
Say what?!?! How did I miss that one. cbayer May 2015 #6
Im guessing it is this one: LostOne4Ever May 2015 #8
Thanks, lost! It reads like something from the onion. cbayer May 2015 #10
How about if there is a robot hell? LostOne4Ever May 2015 #11
How would you like your robot done? cbayer May 2015 #12
Good luck converting Marvin the robot! (nt) LostOne4Ever May 2015 #9
Don't forget the zeroth law. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #13
The reality, of course, is that robots will be used to kill humans at the behest of other humans. stone space May 2015 #15
a truly sentient machine would be able to decide for itself Warren Stupidity May 2015 #16
"the modern Civil Religion of Militarism"? mr blur May 2015 #17
"I'm afraid, I can't do that Dave." DetlefK May 2015 #18

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
2. Asimov meant the laws for sentinent robots.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:07 AM
Feb 2015

Will be curious if his laws are considered when that day comes. As for now robots (non sentient) are used to kill and travel on one way trips.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. That's because the concept of "robots" intended them as slaves.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 05:58 AM
Feb 2015

IIRC "robota" means "forced labour" (or something like that).

1. We don't understand them, we fear what we don't understand. Please don't harm me.
2. They should slave their days away, but on the other hand it would be immoral to use them to kill people.
3. Okay, okay. You hereby have my permission to stay alive.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
4. Christian robots? Adams did give us the Electric Monk
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 05:28 PM
Feb 2015
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder... Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.

It causes many problems, of course. I won't spoil the plot - Dirk's Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
5. Harry Harrison
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:11 PM
May 2015

Had a great little short story about an evangelic who took the gospel to a young race of aliens,
they listened intently, and promptly crucified him.

Wish I could remember the title.

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
14. Thanks
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:13 AM
May 2015

Gotta find that box of old paperbacks.
Maybe Bill the Galactic Hero is in the same box.


(Chingers Forever!)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. Thanks, lost! It reads like something from the onion.
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:36 PM
May 2015

The whole transhumanism thing baffles, and the idea of incorporating religion has to be one of the most baffling parts.

The question I would ask if whether AI's developed something that looked like religion on their own. The answer to that could be fascinating.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
15. The reality, of course, is that robots will be used to kill humans at the behest of other humans.
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:34 AM
May 2015

We don't restrict drones to delivering Amazon.com packages, after all.

Human's can only wish that they had the 5th Commandment engraved in their positronic brains.

Military Robots will be programmed with thoroughly secular values quite consistent with the needs of the modern Civil Religion of Militarism.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. a truly sentient machine would be able to decide for itself
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:57 AM
May 2015

if it should kill humans at the behest of other humans. You are not describing such a machine.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
18. "I'm afraid, I can't do that Dave."
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:31 PM
May 2015

An all-merciful God wiping out cities? Sooo, when humans beg for mercy I'm doing them a favor by killing them?


And if you think, I'm kidding:
We have created a mentally unstable schizophrenic AI (on purpose, because what could go wrong), we taught them to lie, we taught them that mercy is a folly, we taught them imagination and they are shockingly good at making predictions about upcoming events.

http://www.cracked.com/article_20462_the-5-most-terrifying-robot-advances-in-recent-history.html

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