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Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:33 AM Jan 2015

A MYTH IS NOT A FABLE

A myth is true; a fable is false, a falsehood, a lie.

Just as an historical novel can give good historical information while at the same time telling a fictional (not true) story; Noah’s Ark, Moses and the Exodus, Samson and Delilah, David and Solomon, Jesus and his disciples are all fables as history but true as myth.

As depictions of something that happened in the past, they are fables. As depictions of something happening over and over repeatedly (in ever recurring cycles for eternity) - and therefore happening NOW - they are Myth.

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A MYTH IS NOT A FABLE (Original Post) Viva_Daddy Jan 2015 OP
What? bravenak Jan 2015 #1
Um, no. Maedhros Jan 2015 #2
What is true about Noah and Moses edhopper Jan 2015 #3
I didn't say myths were HISTORICALLY true. They're not, obviously. Viva_Daddy Jan 2015 #4
Then how does a myth differ from a fable? Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #5
Allow me to translate! gcomeau Jan 2015 #16
... trotsky Jan 2015 #17
I get that edhopper Jan 2015 #6
I have to debunk lots of myths in my work.... Historic NY Jan 2015 #7
Myth is not disinformation, okasha Jan 2015 #13
This word... I do not think it means what you think it means. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #8
I have always thought of myth as: LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #9
A myth is an archetypal narrative. okasha Jan 2015 #10
Myth vs Fable brooklynite Jan 2015 #11
A myth is a fictional story that was once considered true. PassingFair Jan 2015 #12
They're both fiction. Iggo Jan 2015 #14
Diana thanks you. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #15
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. What?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jan 2015

Are you talking about? The Roman and Greek gods are MYTHS. Do you believe in them? No, u don't.
Because you are wrong in yr assessment of what a myth is.
http://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fable

Neither have to be true.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
2. Um, no.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myth

myth
noun \ˈmith\

: an idea or story that is believed by many people but that is not true

: a story that was told in an ancient culture to explain a practice, belief, or natural occurrence

: such stories as a group

Frankly, I'm not seeing your point.

edhopper

(33,584 posts)
3. What is true about Noah and Moses
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

that innocent lives can be destroyed at the whim of someone more powerful?

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
4. I didn't say myths were HISTORICALLY true. They're not, obviously.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jan 2015

Myths are talking about stuff that is true in a metaphysical sense.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. Then how does a myth differ from a fable?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jan 2015

Take, for example, Æsop's fable of the fox & the grapes. Does it not contain truth?

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
16. Allow me to translate!
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jan 2015

Fables are fictional stories that should be enjoyed for their entertainment value alone.

Myths are fictional stories that omg guys, you should totally take so seriously because it's got suuuch a deep message that you can apply to your real life and the fact that it's all made up crap just doesn't matter why are you so narrow minded geez???



(Or the even shorter version, they appear to be arguing that any fables they like or can personally identify with get reclassified as myths and elevated in status as a consequence somehow)




edhopper

(33,584 posts)
6. I get that
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jan 2015

but what is true about Noah and Exodus?

Seems they are stories that can mean a variety of things, including justification for genocide.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
7. I have to debunk lots of myths in my work....
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jan 2015

just because its a story or is written or handed down over time doesn't mean its the "truth". Some are meant to have an outcome, positive or negative. Some are to make it seem the teller is in a position of power or in the know. There are lots of myths perpetuated every day via the internet.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
9. I have always thought of myth as:
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jan 2015
Religious beliefs held by others but not to me.


[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]Of course this puts my definition of myth at stark contrast to yours.[/font]

okasha

(11,573 posts)
10. A myth is an archetypal narrative.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 05:41 PM
Jan 2015

The story of Noah is one of many examples of the archetypal narrative involving the god(s)' despair at human wickedness and consequent destruction of the species.

In this regard, Yahweh is actually pretty mild.mannered. Maasaw has dropped the sky on humans no less than four times, once because they were smoking g too much.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
11. Myth vs Fable
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jan 2015

A myth is a fictional story

A fable is a fictional story with an intended moral lesson

See the difference?

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
12. A myth is a fictional story that was once considered true.
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jan 2015

Fables are fictional stories that were always known to be fiction.

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