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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:54 PM Dec 2014

Question for the group: Reaction to a post demonstrates its relevance/accuracy?

It has been suggested in another thread that those people who are angered or offended by something that is posted must have felt it was accurate, or that it hits a little close to home. I've heard this referred to as the "Rush Limbaugh gambit," since it was a saying he often brought out to explain why he made so many liberals mad - it was only because of his alleged accuracy.

Do the posters of this group feel this principle is something that should guide posts here? The more people upset about something that was said, the more true it must be?


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Yes, anyone upset by a post must think it describes them a little too accurately.
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No, that is a ridiculous standard and not respectful or helpful for discussion.
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Question for the group: Reaction to a post demonstrates its relevance/accuracy? (Original Post) trotsky Dec 2014 OP
I saw that allegation, and I rejected it immediately. Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #1
Jerry Springer used to have KKK people on his show Renew Deal Dec 2014 #2
We all work from a base of political idelogy, personal ethics, and experience. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #3
"When did you stop beating your wife?" Lordquinton Dec 2014 #4
I think giving the "Rush Limbaugh" answer might have an effect goldent Dec 2014 #5
Like it or not, it's a page right out of his playbook. trotsky Dec 2014 #6
I see what you did there... goldent Dec 2014 #7
Madam, how like you this play? rug Dec 2014 #8
You do know Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #9
You do know what apophasis means, right? rug Jan 2015 #10
That sounds like "people are what I say mmonk Jan 2015 #11

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. I saw that allegation, and I rejected it immediately.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:13 PM
Dec 2014

I also saw some of the arguments against it, and how they were dismissed as not being relevant to the discussion. Anything to say that the dissenters have no pants.

Isn't it possible that an opinion angers people because it is outrageous? To try to build a bridge with the things we can agree on, think about how it angers all of us when we read some of the right wing comments online (example would be that Obama is a Muslim Kenyan socialist who hates America). Yes, we are angry. No, it is not because there is any truth to what is being said.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
2. Jerry Springer used to have KKK people on his show
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:14 PM
Dec 2014

And I would get pissed off. It wasn't because I secretly agreed with them.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. We all work from a base of political idelogy, personal ethics, and experience.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014

Those are what guides reaction to a post.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
4. "When did you stop beating your wife?"
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:33 PM
Dec 2014

There is an example of a question that would spark outrage in anyone, and is the classicexample of what you are talking about, get them riled up at something absurd, then claim that their outrage is due to it being true, rather than that you just said something so completely absurd and insulting.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Like it or not, it's a page right out of his playbook.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

And as I have learned recently, if you are offended by that, then I guess it must strike a little close to home.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
7. I see what you did there...
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:39 PM
Dec 2014

I was just pointing out that when doing a poll, if the Rush Limbaugh position is given as part of the poll, it just might influence the poll results. I just found it humorous that it was done on a poll at DU.

Edit to add: I just voted for the Rush Limbaugh answer, because I kind of feel sorry for him.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. Madam, how like you this play?
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:42 PM
Dec 2014

Queen. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Ham. O! but she’ll keep her word.
King. Have you heard the argument? Is there no offence in ’t?
Ham. No, no, they do but jest, poison in jest; no offence i’ the world.
King. What do you call the play?
Ham. The Mouse-trap. Marry, how? Tropically. This play is the image of a murder done in Vienna: Gonzago is the duke’s name; his wife, Baptista. You shall see anon; ’tis a knavish piece of work: but what of that? your majesty and we that have free souls, it touches us not: let the galled jade wince, our withers are unwrung.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
10. You do know what apophasis means, right?
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jan 2015

Here, I'll help you.

Definition:

A rhetorical term for the mention of something in disclaiming intention of mentioning it--or pretending to deny what is really affirmed. Adjective: apophatic or apophantic. Similar to paralepsis and praeteritio.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines apophasis by quoting John Smith's The Mysterie of Rhetorique Unvail'd (1657): "a kind of Irony, whereby we deny that we say or doe that which we especially say or doe."

http://grammar.about.com/od/ab/g/apophasis.htm

Apropos of which, Happy New Year.
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