Religion
Related: About this forumGod intervenes to give rightwing hate mongerer a clue.
After taking the opportunity of the thanksgiving holiday to hate all over Sasha and Malia Obama for dressing like every other dressed up teenager in America and Europe, Elizabeth Lauten, communications director for congressman Stephen Fincher, (Reprehensible Idiot), was told in no uncertain words by Yahweh, ruler of the universe, to STFU, delete her facebook rant, and apologize.
'Hours of prayer'
In her apology, Ms Lauten wrote: "After many hours of prayer, talking to my parents, and re-reading my words online I can see more clearly just how hurtful my words were.
"I'd like to apologise to all of those who I have hurt and offended with my words, and I pledge to learn and grow (and I assure you I have) from this experience."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30265373
Good on Yahweh. I knew the old guy still had a miracle or two left in him. A republican apologizing is one of those physical improbabilities that does, for a second or two, cause me to shift my odds on the existence of gods from 0.00000000001 to 0.0000000001.
TexasProgresive
(12,158 posts)What she should've said is, "I am sorry for being a classless bore. The girls were dressed tastefully and the picture chosen out of many caught them between expressions. That too was my choice." And then show a different picture from the same event.
At these "photo ops" hundreds maybe thousands of pics are taken. It is poor taste to use the ones that make the subject look, pick one; stupid, sulky, angry or just plain goofy.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,158 posts)I don't believe she is sorry for what she said, God not withstanding.
demwing
(16,916 posts)You may think she's insincere, and she may be, but it wasn't a non-apology.
Bagsgroove
(231 posts)At least she didn't give the standard politician's word-vomit apology -- "If anyone was offended, which was certainly not my intention, I regret my choice of words, which were taken out of context..."
edhopper
(33,619 posts)but I wonder why he didn't tell her before she wrote the thing, being omnipotent and all?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Apparently there is demon on the loose named "Willy" who causes us to do shitty things. Of course that begs the question as the creator of the universe, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent, created willy too and knows everything we will and have done. I guess the bottom line, so to speak, is that Yahweh wanted some shaming of the mini-skirted Obama kids to occur and wanted that hate-fueled butt wad to have to apologize for doing the hating. Agents of god get a raw deal.
rock
(13,218 posts)was told by others that she had brown stuff all over her shoes that stunk to high heaven, she didn't realize that she had stepped in some shit.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Otherwise we'd all be walking around in soiled underwear and shit caked shoes.
rug
(82,333 posts)Wouldn't you agree, Warren?
aikoaiko
(34,184 posts)On Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:14 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Assholes are assholes whether they believe in a god or not.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=166437
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Seriously? Again with the thinly veiled insults and personal attacks? Is this ALL that rug is capable of; petty personal attacks, insults, and disruption? For what? What does this accomplish other than to make DU suck more. Whats most dispicable is the fact that rug doesn't seem to have the courage to come right out and call Warren an "asshole", but uses posts like this to feel clever when a jury allows it. Will you allow it, jury? Is rug really that clever?
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rug
(82,333 posts)An interesting jury. I hope the alerter hasn't had a stroke.
Rob H.
(5,352 posts)"Then again, your mother and father don't respect their positions very much, or the nation for that matter. So I'm guessing you're coming up a little short in the 'good role model' department."
The post goes on to advise the girls to "rise to the occasion and act like being in the White House matters to you".
"Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar," she added.
I'm sure she was positively apoplectic over this:
, for the sarcasm-impaired
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Never solved, of course, although only about five people could get access to the lab where the anthrax spores were.
goldent
(1,582 posts)edhopper
(33,619 posts)religious organizations, charity and the like. Or are you saying religious beliefs do good?
Promethean
(468 posts)The charity is used as a platform to proselytize. In Africa the catholic charities are among the strongest voices promoting atrocities like the Ugandan "kill the gays" law (I know it was knocked down to life imprisonment). They also push anti-safe sex agendas resulting in AIDS spreading even faster. These evil agendas are the result of the religious beliefs and are tied to the supposed "good works" so I am just going to go with religion poisons everything.
goldent
(1,582 posts)Not sure where that fits. Possibly beliefs, but not necessarily.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)is just a smokescreen for the realization that everyone thought her an asshole.
Throwing a prayer into the apology gives it a repented, religious twist that helps deflect the criticism.
I don't see religion a plus or minus as far as people acting like assholes, it's neutral at best.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Because of the privileged position religion holds, it is a powerful tool for social manipulation. Wrapping your apology in it gives the extra appearance of sincerity. Though I will say that assholes who think that god approves of their asshole behavior are probably worse than the average asshole.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)do we take motivation into account when judging the degree of assholeness a person displays, or should we just look at the actual asshole deed to decide.
Hmmm?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Which is more often than not.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)and then after a day or two of deep prayer delete my rant and apologize?
Why the flying fuck would I do that?
Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #15)
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Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But I'll bite: which lies are those? Be specific. Links would be helpful. Also documentation as to exactly why they are lies is required. Mere assertions are insufficient, which I realize presents a problem for you.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)On Sun Nov 30, 2014, 03:32 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
I'm suggesting that you apologize
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=166471
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Calling another poster a liar and unethical is a personal attack, which this person doesn't even bother to justify with a single fact. On top of that, she is continuing a personal attack and carrying over a grudge from other threads. This adds nothing to the discussion and is just nasty.
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Explanation: Way off topic and I agree it's a personal attack from other threads.
Thank you.
rug
(82,333 posts)I can't decide if the irony outweighs the hypocrisy.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)a powered boat or small ship equipped for cruising, typically for private or official use.
Though I don't think that really helps you.
rickford66
(5,528 posts)Then why don't you? It's the old "If I offended anyone, I would apologize". It took hours of prayer to realize how hurtful your words were? Not saying much for religion.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Since she named them explicitly, she should have the decency to apologize to them directly by name. Actually, she should also apologize to God for bringing him into a childish, stupid act and use him as a crutch.
She was probably told to apologize or be fired. If she apologized, she would be allowed to resign so the firing wouldn't be put on her record.
She's probably already been given another job in the Republican Nasty Network. She should fit in well.
phil89
(1,043 posts)guess all the starving kids are out of luck... But he'll take time to correct a delusional goof about her opinion of obamas kids. Makes sense to me!