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Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:31 PM Oct 2014

Minnesota atheists sue over right to perform marriages

Jon Collins · St. Paul, Minn. · Oct 24, 2014

A lawsuit in Washington County is asking that atheists be granted the same rights to perform marriages as religious organizations ranging from Hindu associations to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Atheists for Human Rights, a nonprofit organization based out of a geodesic dome in north Minneapolis, sued Washington County last month after a representative of the group was denied a certificate of ordination by the county.

The lawsuit stems from an incident in April where a member of the atheist group was issued credential to perform marriages by the group, which the plaintiffs say was accepted in Hennepin, Anoka and Stearns counties. When the member sought to receive official certification from Washington County, the application was initially accepted. But three days later, Taxpayer Services Division manager Steven Gransee wrote the applicant to tell them that "a member of an atheist organization...does not meet the statutory requirement."

Another member of the group, plaintiff Rodney Rogers, repeated the process in September. The lawsuit says he was told by the clerk on duty that "he could not be issued credentials to solemnize marriages because the clerks had been instructed not to accept applications from any atheist or humanist organizations."

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/10/24/minnesota-atheists-sue-over-right-to-perform-marriages

http://atheistsforhumanrights.org/

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Minnesota atheists sue over right to perform marriages (Original Post) rug Oct 2014 OP
This is going to ruffle some feathers. cbayer Oct 2014 #1
I think they should, too. But, assigning religious organization status to an atheist group? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2
Lots could go wrong. cbayer Oct 2014 #3
I just saw mention of Alaska's law on some random show my wife was watching Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #4
Works for me. cbayer Oct 2014 #5

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. This is going to ruffle some feathers.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 08:18 PM
Oct 2014

I think that they should be able to but I suspect there will be some pushback from those that don't want atheist groups to be in any way considered religious organizations.

The key would seem to be in changing the statutes. Will be interesting to see how this lawsuit plays out.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. I think they should, too. But, assigning religious organization status to an atheist group?
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:30 PM
Oct 2014

What could go wrong?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. Lots could go wrong.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:36 PM
Oct 2014

I think the statutes need to change in order to recognize that these are ceremonies, they are not necessarily religious ceremonies.

It is indeed a real quandary.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
4. I just saw mention of Alaska's law on some random show my wife was watching
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:50 AM
Oct 2014

As long as you are 18+ years old, you can perform a marriage in Alaska. Seems like a reasonable law to me. I mean, they still have to get the license and file it, so who really cares who performs the ceremony.

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