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Related: About this forumChaplain Demands Atheist Festival Be Canceled At Fort Bragg
Fort Bragg estimates that 5,000 people will attend the all-day event. It was partially inspired by a controversial evangelical Christian event that targeted non-Christians for conversions. Rock Beyond Belief, to be held March 31, has no such conversion or "de-conversion" agenda. The festival aims to be a family-friendly affair including secular childrens activities grounded in science.
An organizer of the event, Justin Griffith said,
"It is possible that Cpt. Williams thinks that arson is a common hobby of atheists from misinformation he obtained from FOX News. Popular rock band Aidens lyrics were purposely taken out of context, making it look like a performer was encouraging the destruction of holy texts and buildings."
Aiden lead-singer, William Control, has repeatedly explained that the song Hysteria was actually a condemnation of faith-on-faith violence and hatred. Though some of Aidens songs contain foul language, but Hysteria does not. Festival organizers insist that all performers had already agreed to only play radio friendly songs.
Chaplain Williams attacked the Military Religious Freedom Foundations Mikey Weinstein and festival headliner Richard Dawkins as being
known publicly for their caustic treatment of people of faith.
Ironically, Mr. Weinstein is Jewish and litigates mainly for Christians.
http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-national/chaplain-demands-atheist-festival-canceled-at-fort-bragg#ixzz1p6ySxpF8
dmallind
(10,437 posts)Since by definition a faith that includes a traditional hell (believed by 2/3 of all Americans - inescapably then the vast majority of Christians) and salvation by faith either alone or in concert with works, says that burning is our eternal destination thanks to their loving all-powerful father figure.
I really bet he campaigns for these somehow less appalling to him sentiments to be silenced.
EDIT Gosh I'm sorry - it's down now
So if we, absurdly, assume that ALL of America's 7% of non-Jewish non-Christian minority religionists believe in a hell like this, that leaves us 52%. Since 77% are Christian that means an absolute minimum of 52/77 or 67.5% of Christians must believe in an eternal torture in hell - and this fucker complains about some rock lyrics, as if any of them ever made any sense?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117409/Easter-Smaller-Percentage-Americans-Christian.aspx
msongs
(67,462 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)they've left out?
bongbong
(5,436 posts)You forgot your tag.
Oblig. joke. The priest told his congregation, as part of his diatribe against Buddhists, "Any religion without a hell isn't worth a damn!"
rexcat
(3,622 posts)should be taken literally for he does not have the capacity for sarcasm. He embraces the words of Jesus as I have never seen before or hopefully after.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)rexcat
(3,622 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)
I didn't even get a nibble from my post.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)We have such a long and loving history, you know.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Oh, and as to that loaded word "propaganda" -- is it propaganda when Christian missionaries try to persuade people to convert? Given that the OP states that this festival isn't aimed at conversions anyway, what qualifies it as "propaganda"?
humblebum
(5,881 posts)they have lately, I can think of no better word.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)And is that propaganda, too?
Or are you just throwing around scare words as a way of saying, "I disagree with what these people are saying or doing so I want to try to smear them and see what sticks"?
Oh, and since you've now introduced yet another vague term, what constitutes "targeting"? Do you mean that if I say "All monotheistic religion is false because there is no god," that's OK, but if I say "Christianity is false," then that's radical? and that if it's radical it's evil?
The opposite of radical is superficial. I, for one, try not to be superficial.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)That's my take, anyway.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Thats all he has. There is no substance.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,390 posts)Doesn't the company you keep bother you?
dmallind
(10,437 posts)One atheist rock act: We should burn buildings
67.5% of all Christians: nonbelievers should personally burn for all eternity
Which is the more radical and anti-other propaganda?
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)I'm interested to know why you think of this as "radical" or even "propaganda".
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)would say the "battle" as you call it, is still being fought.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)You keep on slugging away though...
humblebum
(5,881 posts)In DU 2, to label someone as a hater was not allowed, now totally OK, at least for some.
cleanhippie
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humblebum
(5,881 posts)prevalence of anti-religious threads and posts in the religious group.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)It's like dealing with my schoolmates back in 2nd grade on the playground: "I know you are, but what am I?" and "No, YOU are a poopy face, not me!"
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humblebum
(5,881 posts)for avoidance can also be made.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)You are really making progress. Well done.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)I know you're around because I see the pissing contests you're taking part in.
How is this "radical" or "propaganda"?