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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:19 AM Feb 2014

What's So Weird About a Conservative Atheist?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/whats-so-weird-about-a-conservative-atheist/284092/

The American Atheists were invited—and then uninvited—from the Conservative Political Action Conference. Why?
EMMA GREEN
FEB 26 2014, 1:48 PM ET


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"It is an attack on God Himself."

This was how Brent Bozell, founder of the conservative Media Research Center, felt about the prospect of representatives from the American Atheists attending the upcoming Conservative Political Action Conference, the annual gathering of conservative leaders and organizations in Washington, D.C. On Tuesday, the Atheists announced they would host a booth at the conference next week; within hours, they had been disinvited. The group "misrepresented itself about their willingness to engage in positive dialogue and work together to promote limited government," a CPAC spokesperson told the Washington Post yesterday.

The American Atheists disagree. "America’s religious conservatives can deny it all they want, but soon they’re going to realize that ignoring the growing number of atheist constituents is a losing proposition,” the organization's president, David Silverman, said in a press release. He says his group had been in conversation with conference's planning committee about 2015, offering up ideas for future atheist keynoters. Despite this year's snub, the Atheists are willing to reopen dialogue with CPAC about "the importance of religious equality," Silverman said.

All this back-and-forth over a booth at a convention has a touch of farce. The American Atheists are losing out on the chance to hand out keychains and fliers to a massive group of conservative Christians—it seems unlikely that the group would have successfully un-saved any souls in attendance. The stakes seem to be symbolic: If the most religious, far-right conservatives can open their arms to people with a fundamentally different worldview, that would signal big changes to come in GOP politics. The lightning-quick withdrawal of CPAC's invitation suggests that the Republican Party isn't quite there yet, though.

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What's So Weird About a Conservative Atheist? (Original Post) cbayer Feb 2014 OP
Seems like edhopper Feb 2014 #1
Nothing's weird about a conservative atheist. trotsky Feb 2014 #2
I would say it's a little weird. temporary311 Feb 2014 #3
That aspect is definitely weird. trotsky Feb 2014 #5
I guess it would depend on what country one is living temporary311 Feb 2014 #6
Actually there is one thing LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #4
What's So Weird About a Liberal Fundamentalist Christian? nt rrneck Feb 2014 #7
Im sorry LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #8
Conservative atheists are common enough in Europe and elsewhere LeftishBrit Feb 2014 #9
Yes! Brettongarcia Mar 2014 #10
Nazi-ism wasn't atheistic neither was Mussolini's fascism. white_wolf Mar 2014 #11

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Nothing's weird about a conservative atheist.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:27 AM
Feb 2014

Yes, they're a minority among atheists, but there is nothing about the lack of belief in deities that says anything about how one should position oneself politically.

temporary311

(955 posts)
3. I would say it's a little weird.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:41 AM
Feb 2014

Mostly because you would essentially be aligning yourself with a large number of people who, at the very least, despise you.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. That aspect is definitely weird.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:45 AM
Feb 2014

But I'd say that is more of a problem with the Christian takeover of the Republican party than any inherent conflict between conservatism and atheism.

temporary311

(955 posts)
6. I guess it would depend on what country one is living
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:51 AM
Feb 2014

as a conservative. In Europe it may not be so strange, but in the US, given the current nature of the country in general, and conservatism in particular, it's definitely weird.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
4. Actually there is one thing
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:44 AM
Feb 2014

Its that they are wrong on all the issues other than whether or not they believe there is a god

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
8. Im sorry
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:58 AM
Feb 2014

But the MODERN republican party of the US is simply incompatible with atheism. It has signed a pact with the devil (pun intended) and can no longer be alienated from its involvement with the religious right or vice versa.

The only option that secular conservatives have is to look toward a third party (im thinking the libertarian party) to save them (pun intended again). If anything, this is probably the best bet for them as the republican party seems hellbent (again pun intended) on doubling down on their bigoted positions on minorities and social policy that is driving their party on the road to irrelevancy.

By moving to the LP party they can at least get themselves into leadership position for the distant future when non-extremist conservatives realize the rethugs are a lost cause and look for a new party to replace it with. Im hoping that when this happens it leaves the Religious Right marginalized.

But no matter what happens, its bad for conservatives and the religious right and im going to laugh and laugh and laugh at their misfortune

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
9. Conservative atheists are common enough in Europe and elsewhere
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014

Right-wing atheists/agnostics range from Norman Tebbit to Geert Wilders; Simon Heffer to Douglas Carswell.

Some RW atheists even lament the Decline of Religion because it makes it harder to keep poor people and social minorities in their place, while at the same time admitting that they're not believers themselves. I suspect that some of America's 'fundies' are also socially conservative atheists; but it would be career suicide to admit it. Not so everywhere.

At any rate, religious or not, right-wingers are a menace wherever they are found.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
10. Yes!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:25 AM
Mar 2014

Left-wing atheism, or better said liberal atheism, still respects minorities and so forth.

But right-wing atheism is literally, historically, amoral Nazi-ism and fascism.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
11. Nazi-ism wasn't atheistic neither was Mussolini's fascism.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:55 AM
Mar 2014

Mussolini allied with the Catholic Church and the Nazi's presented themselves as Christians. The phrase "God with us" was inscribed on belt buckles of German troops.

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