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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:18 AM Feb 2014

3 Ariz. senators backtrack on service refusal bill

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/24/ariz-senators-service-refusal-bill/5798539/

The Republicans say the backlash from what they call a rushed process has made them reconsider their position.

Bill would allow businesses to deny service to gays on religious grounds

PHOENIX -- Three Republican senators who voted for Senate Bill 1062 said Monday they made a bad decision in a rushed process and are now asking Gov. Jan Brewer to veto the right-to-refuse-service bill.

"We feel it was a solution in search of a problem," Sen. Bob Worsley, R-Mesa, said in an impromptu news conference outside the state Senate. He was joined by Sen. Steve Pierce, R-Prescott.

The two, along with Senate Majority Whip Adam Driggs, R-Phoenix, sent Brewer a letter Monday morning asking for a veto.

"While our sincere intent in voting for this bill was to create a shield for all citizens' religious liberties, the bill has instead been mischaracterized by its opponents as a sword for religious intolerance," the three wrote. "These allegations are causing our state immeasurable harm."

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3 Ariz. senators backtrack on service refusal bill (Original Post) cbayer Feb 2014 OP
Religion as mental illness? skepticscott Feb 2014 #1
Read the bill before you vote for it exboyfil Feb 2014 #2
It is pathetic indeed. cbayer Feb 2014 #3
Oh, they knew exactly what was in it and exactly what it was intended to do skepticscott Feb 2014 #4
Exactly right, a religious epihany or maybe Beachwood Feb 2014 #5
Not only gay people skepticscott Feb 2014 #6
Maybe next time the will read the bill before they vote on it. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #7
What evidence do you have skepticscott Feb 2014 #8
I think they knew perfectly well what was in the bill Mariana Feb 2014 #9
I would note that from the excerpt it does not appear the senators are actually backtracking at all. trotsky Feb 2014 #10
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
1. Religion as mental illness?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

Could anything but religious nutbaggery have put these people so out of touch with reality?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. It is pathetic indeed.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:46 AM
Feb 2014

Glad to see some coming around on this. It's an embarrassment for the entire state.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
4. Oh, they knew exactly what was in it and exactly what it was intended to do
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:46 AM
Feb 2014

Religious fanaticism and religiously motivated bigotry made them blind to the reality of the situation.

It's only a matter of time before posters here try to give religious groups in Arizona all the credit for the backlash against this bill.

 

Beachwood

(106 posts)
5. Exactly right, a religious epihany or maybe
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:38 PM
Feb 2014

"ARIZONA CONFRONTING AWKWARD REALIZATION THAT GAY PEOPLE HAVE MONEY, BUY STUFF"

as Andy Borowitz is now reporting on the scene.


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/02/arizona-confronting-awkward-realization-that-gay-people-have-money-buy-stuff.html

Religious influence, and how it work$ in America.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
6. Not only gay people
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:57 PM
Feb 2014

But a lot of other people who won't tolerate this kind of blatant discrimination. There are many, many people, myself included, who will never set foot in the state of Arizona or spend a dime there if this law goes into effect. These religious bigots are just now starting to grasp that, and to realize that they've screwed the pooch with this legislation.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. What evidence do you have
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

that none of the people who voted for this bill read it or knew anything of what it was about? What evidence do you have that they didn't know exactly what they were voting for, and that their votes weren't motivated by Christian bigotry?

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
9. I think they knew perfectly well what was in the bill
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 04:51 PM
Feb 2014

before they voted for it. What they didn't know is how unpopular this kind of bill would be. They sure got a surprise, didn't they? I think they're only making these lame excuses now because they're afraid of losing their seats, not because they oppose the bill.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. I would note that from the excerpt it does not appear the senators are actually backtracking at all.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:23 PM
Feb 2014

"the bill... has been mischaracterized"

"these allegations are causing our state... harm"

They realize the negative publicity and potential economic impact to their state by their vote, but they stand by the bill and what it was supposed to do. They are looking for an out so they can reassure their bigoted constituents that they're still quite bigoted too, but not have the state be impacted because of their bigotry. Which of course is justified by their religious beliefs, which you, cbayer, admonish others not to criticize.

Well, except when you say it's OK.

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