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Related: About this forumBarack Obama Has Consistently Defended Religious Freedom - Mother Jones
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/barack-obamas-has-consistently-defended-religious-freedom
Is President Obama waging a war on religion? Just typing the words is enough to make slitting my wrists seem like a fairly reasonable life choice. But Steve Chapman, obviously a stouter man than me, takes the time to dissect just how dumb this argument is:
Amid all the uproar, it's easy to overlook something equally important: the administration's many battles for religious liberty.
....The most conspicuous surprise involves government rules for faith-based organizations that get federal funding for social services. President George W. Bush issued an executive order allowing such groups to hire only people who share their faithexempting them from the usual ban on religious discrimination....In his presidential campaign, [Obama] said his view was simple: "If you get a federal grant, you can't use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can't discriminate against themor against the people you hireon the basis of their religion." But it hasn't worked out that way. Obama has left Bush's rule in place, infuriating many groups that expected a reversal.
....His commitment is also on display in defending churches against municipal governments that would prefer to do without them....It filed a brief in support of a Hasidic Jewish congregation's lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles, which had forbidden it to hold services in a private home. A federal court ordered the city to back off.
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Barack Obama Has Consistently Defended Religious Freedom - Mother Jones (Original Post)
cbayer
Feb 2012
OP
Why is this posted again? And why is Obama being lauded for a horrible policy that started under...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#2
I see what you are saying. The part lifted from the Tribune article is more obvious in the
cbayer
Feb 2012
#5
No one's perfect, the only reason why I caught it was because I read the article from yesterday...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#7
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)1. Bookmarked!!! K&R!!!
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)2. Why is this posted again? And why is Obama being lauded for a horrible policy that started under...
Bush?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)3. Again? It was just published this morning.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)4. Ahh, this looks like a rewrite of a Chicago Tribune article...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/121810866
That rug posted yesterday.
ON EDIT: Actually on further examination, it looks like rather blatant plagiarizing, they even talk about the same examples, that's far beyond coincidence. Unless this one was published with the Tribune's permission.
EDIT 2: On even further examination, this article refers back to the other at its original source, Libertarian nutjobs at reason.com.
That rug posted yesterday.
ON EDIT: Actually on further examination, it looks like rather blatant plagiarizing, they even talk about the same examples, that's far beyond coincidence. Unless this one was published with the Tribune's permission.
EDIT 2: On even further examination, this article refers back to the other at its original source, Libertarian nutjobs at reason.com.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)5. I see what you are saying. The part lifted from the Tribune article is more obvious in the
original Mother Jones article and is attributed, and I did not recognize it as having already been posted yesterday.
Sorry about that.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)7. No one's perfect, the only reason why I caught it was because I read the article from yesterday...
and I forgot the precise source for it till I looked it up again. Memory is a funny thing, remembered the content, but not the authorship or publisher.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)6. Great information CB! Thanks for posting. - n/t