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Related: About this forumJudge says Wash. can’t make pharmacies sell Plan B
February 23, 2012
Gene Johnson, Associated Press
In a ruling that appears headed toward appeal, a federal judge has ruled that Washington state cannot force pharmacies to sell Plan B or other emergency contraceptives.
The states true goal in adopting the rules at issue was not to promote the timely access to medicine, but to suppress religious objections by druggists who believe that such drugs can have an effect tantamount to abortion, U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton said in his ruling Wednesday.
Washingtons rules require that pharmacies stock and dispense drugs for which there is a demand. The state adopted the dispensing regulations in 2007, following reports that some women had been denied access to Plan B, which has a high dose of medicine found in birth-control pills and is effective if a woman takes it within 72 hours of unprotected sex.
State lawyers argued that the requirements are legal because they apply neutrally to all medicines and pharmacies, and because they promote a government interest the timely delivery of medicine, including Plan B, which becomes less effective as time passes.
http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-23/lifestyle/31091824_1_pharmacies-rules-drugs
edhopper
(33,615 posts)for communion because he is opposed to pedophilia?
rug
(82,333 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)who get to act on their conscience?
rug
(82,333 posts)If someone thinks communion wine enables a corrupt group of child molesters, why can't they refuse to sell it based on their conscience?
Or do only objections based on an organized religion have merit?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)You can refuse to provide service to anyone for any reason as long as it is not prohibited by law. However, its a lot easier for you legally if you serve anyone who comes in the door. A business may choose not to offer particular merchandise for whatever reason they choose. Not every store carries Coke and Pepsi products, not every restaurant serves meat. Your wine vendor may choose not to sell it to churches for whatever reason they choose.
I am not aware of any other private business where merchandise requirements are being levied and all businesses are licensed by the state. Why just pharmacies and not others.
Rather than go down a very questionable path, protest and boycotts are the way to go here.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)None of the chains do this.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)if the CEO is a born again fundy, like the head of Domino's Pizza was, they can have their chain refuse to dispense this.
How many women need to be denied access for it to be a problem?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)available from a monopoly at whatever price they set? If the state dictates what must be carried in a merchant's inventory (mostly from monopoly sources) what requirement is there that the state funds all or part of it?
This is in many ways a commerce case not a religious case. What other businesses have requirements levied on them as to what merchandise they must carry?
Pharmacies may choose not to carry some drugs for lack of demand, would that be a good enough reason not to carry Plan B?
The correct way to address this is protests and boycotts. Only a few stand alone stores do this kind of thing and can be driven out of business easily enough. It would also validate other movements like Occupy as having real power.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)single payer healthcare. With equal access by all.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)to that kind of system.
The only pharmacies doing this are a few of the mom & pop stores, which are already an endangered species. Lets kill those off and be done with it. None of the chains refuse to carry Plan B.
I believe it is an excellent opportunity to demonstrate People Power in the US that will get TPTB to take notice. Boycotts are mostly ignored in the US due to their lack of success. This could change that.
iris27
(1,951 posts)And to the person seeking it, the end result is the same.
The pharmacists who sued Illinois seeking a "conscience clause" after being punished for refusing to dispense were chain pharmacists - see Menges v. Walgreens and Vandersand v. Walmart.
snot
(10,538 posts)I believe it can regulate pharmacies to prohibit discrimination against women.
I'm sure racial bigots had must as much personal conviction about the rightness of their views as do anti-abortionists.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)Is this ruling with respect to the 2007 case that was sent back to him? From the article:
Further appeals were expected, both from the state and from groups that intervened on the states behalf. Before taking more than an hour to read his 48-page opinion in court, Leighton acknowledged that he crafted it for the benefit of a skeptical appeals court.
Here's his opinion.
http://www.wawd.uscourts.gov/documents/HomePageAnnouncements/C07-5374%20Opinion.pdf
Here's the injunction.
http://www.wawd.uscourts.gov/documents/HomePageAnnouncements/C07-5374%20Permanent%20Injunction.pdf
Here are the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
http://www.wawd.uscourts.gov/documents/HomePageAnnouncements/C07-5374%20Findings%20of%20Fact.pdf
Jim__
(14,083 posts)I don't usually read court decisions, but this case is Stormans v Selecky and from this decision:
The Ninth Circuit issued an Opinion reversing this Courts injunction on July 8, 2009.
See Stormans v. Selecky, 571 F.3d 960 (9th Cir. 2009). After rehearing by the Ninth Circuit
panel, that Opinion was vacated and superseded by an Opinion dated October 28, 2009. See
Stormans v. Selecky, 586 F.3d 1109 (9th Cir. 2009). The Opinion reversed this Courts
injunction.
In reversing the injunction, the Court of Appeals held that this Court had applied the
wrong preliminary injunction standard in light of the Supreme Courts intervening decision in
Winter v. Natural Resources Defense Council, 555 U.S. 7 (2008) (invalidating the Ninth
Circuits possibility of irreparable injury standard as too lenient).9 Further, the Ninth Circuit
held that, based on the evidentiary record at the time, the Court should have applied a rationalbasis
test instead of an ends/means test, which it equated to heightened scrutiny. See
Stormans, 586 F.3d at 1131 (noting that the evidentiary record was thin). In considering the
merits, the Court of Appeals held that Plaintiffs were unlikely to succeed, and that the injunction
was overly broad because it applied to all pharmacists and pharmacies practicing refuse and
refer. The Court of Appeals further held that even if an injunction was warranted, it should
have been limited to the named Plaintiffs.
...
So, he's claiming a full examination of the evidence proves that his, Leighton's, original decision was correct. I guess it goes back to the 9th circuit.
rug
(82,333 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Or, you can read the court documents themselves which seem to have erscaped the GD thread.