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spin

(17,493 posts)
1. When you realize just how much water Jesus turned into wine at the marriage ....
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jan 2014

you might understand that Jesus was not opposed to getting drunk occasionally.

edhopper

(33,584 posts)
3. This is one of those interpreted stories
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jan 2014

Jesus regularly watered the vineyards, the grapes absorbed the water as they grew. Later when the grapes were crushed and fermented, the water within them turned to wine.
Of course this could not have happened with out God's intervention. Only explanation.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
5. Dionysiac/Bacchian influence on Christianity? Drinking wine is sacred. Maybe beer too.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jan 2014

Based on the water-to-wine episode, some scholars speculate that elements of the "Jesus Myth" were borrowed from the Greeks and Romans that occupied Jerusalem, c. 300 BC ff. And their worship of the "god" or "lord" who invented wine: Dionysius in Greece; Bacchus in Rome.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
6. Jewish influence.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jan 2014

Jews had been drinking wine in celebrations and ceremonies for centuries before the Seleucid occupation. Wine and the vinyards that produced it were seen as a vital part of Yahweh's bessing on the land.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
7. My knowledge of ancient Jewish libations is limited...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

...but from what I understand of ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and later European cultures, water was rarely consumed pure. Heavily dilute wine was far more common, both for its taste and resilience to stagnation.

If the same applied to Ancient Iudea, the whole water-into-wine story is less a matter of "OH TEH NOES! SOMEBODY MAKE A PACKIE RUN!", and more a matter of, "shit, there's literally nothing to drink."

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
8. Naturalizing religion:after a night of wine-drinking, water tastes like wine (from residue in mouth)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jan 2014

As I accidentally discovered one night

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