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Related: About this forumDid your absentee father make you an atheist?
Kimberly Winston | Jan 13, 2014
(RNS) A once-popular book that links atheism with shoddy fathering is getting a second life with a new publisher, thanks, in part, to the rise of nonbelief in the United States.
Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism by Catholic psychologist Paul C.Vitz posits that intense atheists throughout history Nietzsche, Voltaire and Madalyn Murray OHair had absent or rotten fathers. This, he argues, damaged their ability to form a relationship with a heavenly father.
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Some atheists try to equate atheism with rationality. Vitzs book shows that atheism, like many belief systems, has significant irrational elements.
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But atheists are less enthusiastic. I have a spectacular relationship with my father and consider him to be the most admirable man Ive ever known, wrote JT Eberhard, an atheist blogger for Patheos. Many of the comments on his review are unprintable.
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/01/13/absentee-father-make-atheist/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013/11/christian-claims-atheism-is-a-result-of-a-tense-relationship-with-ones-father/
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)but He was never around.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)I have lived with my father for more years than I have not. I don't think his absence or presence had much to do with it.
Positing all atheism as a rejection of a "Father Figure" is shoddy, but not unexpected. Which is not to say this might not be behind some atheism, but it is a stretch, a looooooooooong, loooooooooong stretch to label all atheists as father haters.
What about polytheists, did they have many multiples of parents growing up?
rug
(82,333 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,461 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)There are as many reasons for begin an atheist and there are for being a theist.
Trying to simplify this into some kind of pat psychological formula is ridiculous, imo.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Perhaps his being MIA explains .............wait a minute.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)home-schooled by his doting lawyer father, nevertheless he showed some flair.
rug
(82,333 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)We were mild-mannered Methodists before my mom and dad divorced when I was around 10. I remember going to church but don't remember it being a huge part of life. When my mom remarried and turned super-fundie Baptists we started going to church most every day of the week for one thing or another - services 3 times a week (twice on Sunday), visitation, youth groups for me and my brothers, etc...
I still got to see my real (sane) dad fairly often and spent summers with him and my (sane) grandparents. It was somewhere during 4 years of Independent, fundamentalist, Bible-believin' Baptist high school that I started questioning and eventually dropping faith. I've been an atheist for a lot longer than than I was a christian now.
So I may not have gotten to see my dad every day but I knew he was available and I had a great relationship with him. I miss him every day since he died several years ago. He was "mildly" religious until the end but not fundamentalist about it. I'm an atheist because I don;t believe in any gods. I don't think it was my dad's fault.
rug
(82,333 posts)Even though it's been years, my condolences.
Personally, I'm skeptical of these Neo-Freudian studies.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)And yeah, I'm pretty skeptical too. I suspect "Catholic psychologist Paul C.Vitz" had an agenda...
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Also a wife beater and a drunk.
Has nothing to do with my lack of faith in the supernatural.
Brettongarcia
(2,262 posts)But if you say that not having a good literal father, turns you against "The Father," then so what?
Should we really conclude - as Catholic "psychologists" claim - that any rebellion against God the Father is simply and only the fluke of a poor psychology? This seems like a rather nasty ad-hominem way of attacking skeptics and atheists.
Maybe instead we should say the data suggests that "God the Father" is not quite an adequate way of characterizing god or ultimate truth; many people don't relate to it (cf. Mary Daley, "Beyond God the Father" .
So how about say, "Mother Nature" as an alternative?