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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:06 PM Feb 2012

New veterans cross is perfectly legal

Don Vierstra didn’t like the objections MAAF has made to a large Christian cross posted at Camp Pendleton.

Vierstra and some friends installed the 17-foot-tall white wooden cross on land he owns on the west side of Interstate 15 in Murrieta, near the I-215 split … There are no writings or markings on the cross, though there will be a plaque with a non-religious message, he said. … Vierstra said he wants only to honor the nation’s war dead.

So now there is a large Christian cross at the I-15 / I-215 split north of Camp Pendleton. It’s on private land overlooking a major highway. Good for the Christians. There is no challenge to this perfectly legal broadcasting of Christian ideology. Maybe Vierstra woould be willing to host the Camp Pendleton cross beside his cross on his private land, thus maintaining the symbol in-tact but eliminating the legal violation at Camp Pendleton. That would be a wonderful resolution to the issue.

But Vierstra’s cross is still supposedly posted as a memorial to veterans. As a representative of atheists and humanists in the military, I still take exception to the idea that a Christian cross represents all war veterans or cops or sacrifice. This confusion makes his cross sound much more like advocacy for Christian privilege than a true tribute to veterans. No one could confuse a large cross as anything but a Christian symbol. However, having been informed that the intent is to honor veterans, maybe one can imagine a lower-case t for “thank the troops”. I want to appreciate the sentiment, even if it’s not presented in a way I would expect. It’s like one of those gifts from a distant family member who really doesn’t know you. You want to be gracious, but it’s hard when they miss the mark so badly.

http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2012/02/20/new-veterans-cross-is-perfectly-legal/
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New veterans cross is perfectly legal (Original Post) cleanhippie Feb 2012 OP
Well, by using a cross I guess they're not wasting their time Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #1
I guess Cpl Khan doesn't count. sarge43 Feb 2012 #2
What a beautiful picture, and sad at the same time. nt Lost-in-FL Feb 2012 #4
At least someone is doing what is legal Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #3
100% correct. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #5

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Well, by using a cross I guess they're not wasting their time
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
Feb 2012

on the infidel vets who aren't going to heaven anyway.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
3. At least someone is doing what is legal
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:09 PM
Feb 2012

rather than bitch about the 1st Amendment actually being upheld.

I don't think he gets it if he thinks this is a memorial to "all" that died, but baby steps, I guess.

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