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rug

(82,333 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:59 AM Nov 2013

Shiloh Altar: Biblical Archaeology Provides Evidence of Ancient Religious Center



The Tel Shiloh dig. Photo: Courtesy of Tel Shiloh archaeological site.

November 20, 2013 12:56 pm

JNS.org – For decades archaeologists have been searching for evidence to support the hypothesis that Shiloh served as a religious center in ancient times. Now, a stone altar dated to the Iron Age—the period of Israelite kings—was accidentally exposed during a dig conducted by an archaeological staff officer of the Civil Administration in Judea and Samaria.

The altar was found amid the stones of a wall dated to the Byzantine period. Apparently, the Byzantines removed the altar from its original location in Tel Shiloh and used it to build a structure at the foot of the tel. The discovery is the first tangible evidence that Shiloh was a cultic center prior to and during the First Temple period. Previously, the only evidence for that theory were descriptions in the Bible about the Tabernacle at the time of Joshua and later in the time of Eli the high priest and the prophet Samuel.

Until today, archaeologists believed that after the Philistines took the Ark of the Covenant, as described in the book of Samuel, they destroyed the city and Jewish settlement there ended. The altar’s discovery suggests that some Jewish settlement continued there even after the death of Eli the high priest.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/20/shiloh-altar-biblical-archaeology-provides-evidence-of-ancient-religious-center/
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Shiloh Altar: Biblical Archaeology Provides Evidence of Ancient Religious Center (Original Post) rug Nov 2013 OP
Endless fascination. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #1
Joke's on them. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #2
If you confuse an altar with a urinal, you're ignorant of archaeology. rug Nov 2013 #3
The fount in the photo in this article isn't actually the alleged altar referred to in the story. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #4
That's because it's a picture of the dig. rug Nov 2013 #8
Actually, it's not a picture of THAT dig. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #11
The object you posted a picture of is actualy 3/4 down this old site page. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #5
I think he ran away after you turned the tables. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #6
Definitely a reversal of fortune there. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #7
You should read your replies first. rug Nov 2013 #10
A not very useful backpedal. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #12
Congratulations on dropping that stupid urinal/altar simile. rug Nov 2013 #13
In that vein, you might consider posting a picture of the actual dig site next time. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #14
Be my guest. rug Nov 2013 #15
"You should read your replies first." AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #16
Good for you. rug Nov 2013 #17
Whenever someone says that, I hear it in this voice AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #18
These two should meet. rug Nov 2013 #21
Sorry, I had to deal with a parole violation. rug Nov 2013 #9
You violated your parole? cleanhippie Nov 2013 #19
Shhh... rug Nov 2013 #20

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. Joke's on them.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:30 PM
Nov 2013

"Archaeologists uncover world's first outdoor urinal"
"Archaeologists uncover rich dead guy's fountain"
"Archaeologists uncover world's first hand washing station"

etc.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. If you confuse an altar with a urinal, you're ignorant of archaeology.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

It remains to be seen whether it's of your own volition.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
4. The fount in the photo in this article isn't actually the alleged altar referred to in the story.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:03 PM
Nov 2013

The source you cited appears to be... flawed.

This is what it looks like.
?w=477

It is a flat altar, not a fount/basin.

Also, the language in the article I found is much more accurate. Your article does use the word 'sugggests' correctly in one place, but is otherwise a little too 'conclusive'.

"The altar is thought to have been used to offer sacrifices even after the First Temple was built in Jerusalem."


"Archaeologists think that Byzantines took the stone altar from its original site, which might have been in the same location as the Tabernacle. There are two conflicting theories on its location, one stating it is on the northern side of ancient Shiloh and the other placing it on the southern side."

etc.

Ignorant? At least I found a picture of the actual object in question.
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/archaeologists-find-shiloh-altar-used-during-temple-era/2013/11/20/

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. That's because it's a picture of the dig.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

Perhaps if you read the caption you would not be confused.

Thanks for adding a link to this story for the Religion Group. It doesn't confuse it with a urinal either.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
11. Actually, it's not a picture of THAT dig.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:11 PM
Nov 2013

THAT picture was unearthed some time ago. It is a completely different area of the town.
As you can see, it has nothing to do with the dig site you posted a picture of.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. The object you posted a picture of is actualy 3/4 down this old site page.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:17 PM
Nov 2013

So, explain your confusion then.
Or is the conclusion; ignorance?

http://biblewalks.com/Sites/Shiloh.html

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Definitely a reversal of fortune there.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:42 PM
Nov 2013

I initially wondered why the picture was of a basin, when the article talked about an altar, but I wasn't going to press the point until...

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
13. Congratulations on dropping that stupid urinal/altar simile.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:15 PM
Nov 2013

It's much more fruitful to discuss the reality of things.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. In that vein, you might consider posting a picture of the actual dig site next time.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:21 PM
Nov 2013

Or better yet, a photo of the object in question.

Instead of a fountain from a much older dig site in a different part of the city, featuring a fountain/font/who knows what.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
18. Whenever someone says that, I hear it in this voice
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:40 PM
Nov 2013

when the guy eats mayonnaise directly from the jar with his hand.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
9. Sorry, I had to deal with a parole violation.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:09 PM
Nov 2013

Much as I enjoy a profound discussion on the difference between a urinal and an altar, duty called.

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