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Olympic Soccer Heads Up: USWNT vs Canada - Starting Now (Original Post) RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 OP
I'm trying to tape it but it won't allow me to record. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #1
Great game, but... OswegoAtheist Aug 2012 #2
Hogwash. HuckleB Aug 2012 #3
Yeah, he's just terrible.. Upton Aug 2012 #15
Can you name the logical fallacies you just offered up? HuckleB Aug 2012 #18
I agree.. Upton Aug 2012 #4
oh baloney BuddhaGirl Aug 2012 #5
Thank you so much for your objective reporting.. Upton Aug 2012 #6
you're welcome. BuddhaGirl Aug 2012 #7
Not this shit.. Upton Aug 2012 #10
Yeah! You found another idiot who is trying to get attention. HuckleB Aug 2012 #17
That's right..everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. Upton Aug 2012 #20
PS: The Stomp HuckleB Aug 2012 #8
Odd the way.. Upton Aug 2012 #9
there are often controversial calls that decide games BuddhaGirl Aug 2012 #12
Yes, there are often controversial calls Upton Aug 2012 #13
Hardly. HuckleB Aug 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Upton Aug 2012 #16
egregious and very obviously deliberate BuddhaGirl Aug 2012 #11
Indeed. HuckleB Aug 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Upton Aug 2012 #21
Steve Davis? Upton Aug 2012 #22
Logic isn't your thing. HuckleB Aug 2012 #25
Epic game MaineMen Aug 2012 #23
I hope you saw the final yesterday too. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #24
Spam deleted by Warren DeMontague (MIR Team) crazymana11 Sep 2012 #26
Spam deleted by Paulie (MIR Team) usaboynow Sep 2012 #27

OswegoAtheist

(609 posts)
2. Great game, but...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 09:32 PM
Aug 2012

...whatever medal the US team gets, they need to make sure the ref gets one too. She earned it.

Oswego "bitter? me? never!" Atheist

Upton

(9,709 posts)
15. Yeah, he's just terrible..
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:53 AM
Aug 2012

he took a Canadian team that wasn't expected to even compete for a medal. First beating the host nation, then going up against the #1 ranked team in the world, a club they have never beaten, and outplaying them for long stretches, losing only on a controversial call that won't be forgotten..

Herdman has raised Canadian soccer to a new level...he should be congratulated.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
4. I agree..
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:40 AM
Aug 2012

I watch the EPL, CL, follow Arsenal religiously, and of course all the international competitions..and I've never seen a delay call like that..Oh, there have been calls on goalkeepers stalling, but it's always a yellow card..


The Canadians feel like they were robbed...and they have a right to be..





BuddhaGirl

(3,607 posts)
5. oh baloney
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:28 PM
Aug 2012

She had been warned. Abby Wambach played it smartly.

Canada's coach is whining, as is Sinclair. The coach was bellyaching about the US's "dirty tactics" BEFORE the game; it was obvious he was trying to set something up. Everything he accused the US of doing, Canada did. The US played a pretty clean game, actually, while #14 on Canada's team got away with a bunch of nasty fouls.

Boo frickin' hoo.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
6. Thank you so much for your objective reporting..
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:40 PM
Aug 2012


That delay call is never made..and I mean NEVER.

The call was outrageous, messed up and now overshadowed a wonderful match..

NBC American soccer commentator Kyle Martino:

“My heart goes out to Canadian players, because it was such a tough moment,” Martino said. “To be playing so well, to bring your best game, against the best team in the world. And then to have the game flipped on its end because of a call like that? If I was playing in that game, it would have drove me nuts.”

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/06/ahem-awful-call-in-u-s-canada-olympic-classic-erin-mcleod-time-wasting-goalkeeper/

BuddhaGirl

(3,607 posts)
7. you're welcome.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:49 PM
Aug 2012

It's a discretionary rule. The gk had been warned SEVERAL times.

#14 Tancredi should have been red-carded after stomping on Carli Lloyd's head!

Shit happens!

Upton

(9,709 posts)
10. Not this shit..
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:55 AM
Aug 2012

Steve Davis NBC Sports soccer writer:

I’ll address the less popular issue, this unpleasant little matter that I’m sure most U.S. soccer supporters would prefer not to mention:

What a horrible moment for Norwegian referee Christina Pedersen to make such a highly significant decision, to award an indirect free kick to the United States in the 78th minute, adjudging Canadian goalkeeper Erin McLeod of time-washing.

And make no mistake, an indirect free kick from 17 yards may not be a gift from the heavens (as a penalty kick might be), but it’s a wonderfully fortuitous turn of events for the attacking team – especially one that is a goal down with 12 minutes remaining.

I’ve watched more professional soccer matches than I can possible count. (Best, ridiculously wild-ass guess: somewhere north of 2,000.) I have never – no exaggeration here, never – seen that called.


http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/06/ahem-awful-call-in-u-s-canada-olympic-classic-erin-mcleod-time-wasting-goalkeeper/

Upton

(9,709 posts)
20. That's right..everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:29 AM
Aug 2012

Even an American national soccer writer...

I like the USWNT okay, but I'm objective enough to admit they were, let say...extremely fortunate at this Olympics. You've offered virtually nothing to suggest otherwise. Therefore, I'm forced to declare myself the winner of this limited debate. Thank you for your participation..

Upton

(9,709 posts)
9. Odd the way..
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

US defenders have all brought up the supposed missed red card as a way to defend the controversial pro US calls late. Why not defend the ref's delay and subsequent handball call on it's merits, other than changing the subject?

It's as if the US media put out the official talking points, which are now being regurgitated by blind patriots everywhere, with little regard for the truth. Now, I'm not necessarily claiming you're engaging in such tactics..just an observation.

BuddhaGirl

(3,607 posts)
12. there are often controversial calls that decide games
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:04 AM
Aug 2012

But I'm sure you know that.

It was Canada's day to be on the receiving end. Again, it was controversial, and it was discretionary.

Canada needs to move on.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
13. Yes, there are often controversial calls
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:16 AM
Aug 2012

that decide games...The difference here for me, is not so much that it was a bad call, but that the delay call itself is NEVER made. You do realize the "6 second rule" could easily be applied to keepers 10 times or more a match? Solo herself violates it regularly. All keepers do. To have such a rule suddenly arbitrarily applied at such a crucial juncture violates the spirit of the game.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
14. Hardly.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:47 AM
Aug 2012

In the face of the nonsense pushed by Canada's coach (and the players under his leadership) before and after the game, it would be ridiculous not to bring this up. It has nothing to do with patriotism. It has everything to do with a coach who clearly created an ugly culture within his team, tries to play head games with the refs, and then gets angry when they backfire. Pffft.

Oh, and I like how you spin your attack here, btw.

Response to HuckleB (Reply #14)

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
19. Indeed.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:49 PM
Aug 2012

But, if you're a fan of soccer, and you invented the sport in 2009 in Seattle, Washington, that flies over your head.

Response to HuckleB (Reply #8)

Upton

(9,709 posts)
22. Steve Davis?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:04 AM
Aug 2012

Lets see, you're using a link to him to support your argument here..but have now subsequently gone on to refer to Davis as an "idiot" in #17..

Undermining your own case most successfully. Congratulations..



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