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brush

(53,871 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:00 AM Dec 2018

What the media is leaving out of the coverage of the Kareem Hunt story.

This is a partial account of one of Hunt's friends of what sparked the incident.

"I only know those girls through a friend," Watkins tells officers in the video. "They invited us to a club tonight. We got to the club, and they were overly drunk, as you can tell. But come to find out, they're not even 21. They're 19 years old. We were like, 'Can you guys please leave us alone?'"

Watkins tells police Ottinger and her friend, Dominique Hamilton, got along fine with everyone throughout the evening, but that ended inside Hunt's residence. According to Watkins' account, Hunt said Ottinger and Hamilton couldn't stay the night. Watkins says he offered $20 when they said they didn't have enough money for an Uber ride home. After he sent them into the hall, Ottinger began to scream and pound on the door, according to his account.

"They're in the hallway, like standing by the elevator," Watkins tells police. "I come out and I'm like, 'You guys are being too loud. Please just leave us alone.' She started freaking out, grabbing the back of my head. She broke my necklace. She tried calling me the N-word. She called us n-----s and s--- like that. We're like, 'There is no point of you to do that. We just want you to leave us alone.' Then they started getting aggressive, hitting us."

Ottinger could not be reached for comment by Outside the Lines.

In the police video, Ottinger confirms having gotten upset because she didn't have enough money to get home and was in no condition to drive herself. Her car, she tells police, was parked at the hotel. "We needed a ride back to Kent," Ottinger says. "An Uber was $112. We can't afford that. We're college students, right?"


http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/25471824/how-kareem-hunt-nfl-career-was-put-hold-night-town
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brush

(53,871 posts)
2. Athough there's never an excuse for battering a woman, her use of the n-word which sparked...
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 07:14 AM
Dec 2018

the incident was not just buried in the ESPN web site story, it has never been discussed, as far as I've seen or heard in any of the cable or network coverage of the Kareem Hunt story. And I'm a big sports fan and watch ESPN, ESPN2 everyday, not to mention CNN, MSNBC and other networks.

I had to go to their website to find out what set Hunt off, and like I mentioned, the n-word incident was buried deep into the story.

I wondered all along what precipitated the incident? Were the two a couple who quarreled as in the Ray Rice incident, was it over money or some other dispute?

Nothing was mentioned in the coverage. It was like the journalists who covered the story purposely left out the last W of the five Ws of journalism—who, what, when, where and why.

Curious, had you heard of the victim's use of the n-word which undoubtedly contributed to what happened? And isn't it curious that the victim didn't want to press charges. Is it because she knew she wasn't entirely without fault in enflaming a tense situation?

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
3. even more curious it came out after we were 9-2 and NE is sucking
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:21 PM
Dec 2018

This happened LAST feb. and the police declined to charge anyone.



I think Bill Belichek is sitting with a big fat smile somewhere

brush

(53,871 posts)
4. Never thought of that angle. Could very well be. Much as don't like the Pats...
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:27 PM
Dec 2018

Belichek doesn't miss much.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. I think the spygate is worse than people think
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:35 PM
Dec 2018

The deflategate thing was on Brady but I really don't think Belichick is involved in this. There was a police interaction that was leaked to the media TMZ I think.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. It is mentioned. OTL are very thorough investigative reporters
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

I only know those girls through a friend," Watkins tells officers in the video. "They invited us to a club tonight. We got to the club, and they were overly drunk, as you can tell. But come to find out, they're not even 21. They're 19 years old. We were like, 'Can you guys please leave us alone?'"

Watkins tells police Ottinger and her friend, Dominique Hamilton, got along fine with everyone throughout the evening, but that ended inside Hunt's residence. According to Watkins' account, Hunt said Ottinger and Hamilton couldn't stay the night. Watkins says he offered $20 when they said they didn't have enough money for an Uber ride home. After he sent them into the hall, Ottinger began to scream and pound on the door, according to his account.

"They're in the hallway, like standing by the elevator," Watkins tells police. "I come out and I'm like, 'You guys are being too loud. Please just leave us alone.' She started freaking out, grabbing the back of my head. She broke my necklace. She tried calling me the N-word. She called us n-----s and s--- like that. We're like, 'There is no point of you to do that. We just want you to leave us alone.' Then they started getting aggressive, hitting us."

Ottinger could not be reached for comment by Outside the Lines.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/25471824/how-kareem-hunt-nfl-career-was-put-hold-night-town%3fplatform=amp

brush

(53,871 posts)
7. That's the same story I copied and pasted from in the OP.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

I watched the video from your link and neither segment mentioned the "n-word" incident.

It's like I said, you had to go deep in the story on the website to find that out.

I didn't see the OTL show you say talked of the "n-word" incident but you'd think everyone else who covered the story wouldn't mention it as a contributing factor to what happened.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. You have to go deep to find all the layout of facts
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018

This was further down.



But Watkins' account doesn't square with the security footage acquired by TMZ, in which Hunt can be seen walking into the hallway and verbally confronting Ottinger. He makes physical contact, pushing her in the chest. A friend of Hunt's attempts to hold Hunt back, but Ottinger appears to reach past that man and strike Hunt. Several of Hunt's friends drag him back into his apartment, but he surges back into the frame and careens into another friend, who careens into Ottinger, who falls near a wall. Ottinger lays on the floor, stunned, before slowly getting up. Hunt, as McManamon struggles to hold him back, then kicks Ottinger as she tries to stand. Hamilton can be seen videotaping most of the incident on a phone, before one of Hunt's friends snatches the device.

And

"That's how I got involved, specifically because the hotel would not let her use the phone," Szeto told Outside the Lines. "I could see she had cuts on her. She told me the guy at the front desk told her, 'That's what you get for being a slut,' which I just found outrageous."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/25471824/how-kareem-hunt-nfl-career-was-put-hold-night-town%3fplatform=amp

I think a lot of parties acted innappropriately that night including the police and hotel staff.

On edit : I seen after I posted that it was the same link . I thought you were quoting a different article. I don't watch ESPN analysts much anymore.

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