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Auggie

(31,172 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:52 AM Oct 2016

ESPN Ultimate Standings: 49ers franchise drop to last place in sports

For a franchise with as much history and tradition as the 49ers, it's hard to believe they've sunk to this level -- dead last among 122 professional sports teams. It's the result of a lack of on-field success, the dysfunction that led to the departure of coach Jim Harbaugh (and the uninspired choice of Jim Tomsula as his replacement), and the overwhelming cost to watch it all unfold at Levi's Stadium. They dropped 76 spots in last year's rankings, and now, down 19 more, bottom out this year. At least now there's nowhere to go but up.

What's good.Although the Niners fell 12 spots in the title track category from a year ago, they still check in at No. 51, a nod to the franchise's storied history -- and its record of getting back on track and finding a way to become competitive after short periods of rebuilding. Adding coach Chip Kelly gives the Niners a creative offensive mind who has a winning record at the NFL level, placing him well ahead of his predecessor. There's an abundance of intriguing young talent on defense which, if it comes together, could turn into a dominant unit somewhere down the road.

What's bad. Take your pick. Aside from title track, the Niners are ranked no better than No. 105 in any of the other categories. They dropped 29 spots to No. 116 when it comes to the roster, largely because they don't have a franchise quarterback in place and lack outside receiving options to help whoever is behind center. Their fan relations and affordability are ranked worst in the NFL, with huge price tags on PSLs and season tickets garnering the opportunity to watch an offense that was among the league's worst in 2015.

What's new. The Niners dropped a whopping 81 spots in bang for the buck, dipping all the way to No. 113. The amount of attrition the Niners have suffered over the past couple of years has left them in a rebuilding mode that doesn't match up with the cost of attending a game. After a string of three consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances, the 49ers have won a combined 13 games over the past two seasons. Paying a premium price for a winning team is to be expected. But if the product isn't good, the cost is much harder to swallow.

LINK: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17831701/san-francisco-49ers-drop-another-19-places-last-overall-ultimate-standings

The data for this comes from fans -- actual customers! This is heavy shit.




--------- BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! ---------




Selected rankings from another link:
For 14 years now, we've asked you to rate your favorite team in the categories that matter most to fans, from championships to cheap seats. Then, based on your feedback, we've ranked every pro franchise. Who's No. 1 this time? The Tampa Bay Lightning, who learned that to build a fanbase from scratch, you've got to put in the work.

Top 25

No. 1: Tampa Bay Lightning

No. 2: San Antonio Spurs

No. 3: Carolina Panthers

No. 4: Green Bay Packers

No. 5: Arizona Cardinals

No. 6: Nashville Predators

No. 7: Florida Panthers

No. 8: Dallas Stars

No. 9: Kansas City Royals

No. 10: Texas Rangers

No. 11: Pittsburgh Penguins

No. 12: Seattle Seahawks

No. 13: Cleveland Cavaliers

No. 14: Memphis Grizzlies

No. 15: Baltimore Orioles

No. 16: St. Louis Cardinals

No. 17: New England Patriots

No. 18: San Francisco Giants

No. 19: Denver Broncos

No. 20: Kansas City Chiefs

No. 21: Cleveland Indians

No. 22: Pittsburgh Steelers

No. 23: Anaheim Ducks

No. 24: Dallas Mavericks

No. 25: Oklahoma City Thunder

The Bottom 10:

No. 112: Detroit Lions

No. 113: Sacramento Kings

No. 114: New York Knicks

No. 115: Oakland Athletics

No. 116: Vancouver Canucks

No. 117: San Diego Chargers

No. 118: Toronto Maple Leafs

No. 119: Cleveland Browns

No. 120: Phoenix Suns

No. 121: Los Angeles Rams

No. 122: San Francisco 49ers

READ MORE: http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/17816613/espn-magazine-2016-ultimate-standings

PS: It helps to win ...

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ESPN Ultimate Standings: 49ers franchise drop to last place in sports (Original Post) Auggie Oct 2016 OP
Last place is still too high...nt joeybee12 Oct 2016 #1
In other news: Airplane Banner Calling for Trent Baalke's Firing to Be Flown Over Levi's Stadium Auggie Oct 2016 #2
hah! joeybee12 Oct 2016 #3
Speaking as someone in the ad/marketing business ... Auggie Oct 2016 #4
Phoenix in the bottom 10 really? JonLP24 Oct 2016 #5
Replies included all aspects of the franchise, including venue Auggie Oct 2016 #6
Reading they have their highest marks for arena JonLP24 Oct 2016 #7
I'm surprised that Jamaal510 Oct 2016 #8
cboy4 should be allowed back just to comment on this post!! madinmaryland Oct 2016 #9

Auggie

(31,172 posts)
2. In other news: Airplane Banner Calling for Trent Baalke's Firing to Be Flown Over Levi's Stadium
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oct 2016

A GoFundMe petition created on Monday to gather donations for the banner doubled its $1,076 goal in less than 24 hours.

An airplane set to fly overhead Levi's Stadium during the 49ers' next home game will have a special message for the San Francisco organization.

Nearly 91 people raised over $2,250 via GoFundMe to fly a banner that will call for the 49ers to fire General Manager Trent Baalke.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Baalke-Airplane-Banner-398752651.html

Auggie

(31,172 posts)
4. Speaking as someone in the ad/marketing business ...
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
Oct 2016

when the customer base not only rates a product dead last but also stops buying that product ...

heads usually roll.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. Phoenix in the bottom 10 really?
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:04 PM
Oct 2016

They are one of the NBA's successful franchises despite never winning a NBA title. From the 70s to 2000s they routinely made the playoffs but haven't been since Amare Stoudemire left. However, I'm excited what the future brings with a healthy Eric Bledsoe, Devin Booker, lotery picks Dragon Bender, Marquese Chriss, and 2nd round pick Tyler Ulis. Also a fan of Jared Dudley as well. May take a few years but they have some powerful pieces.

Ironically in the 90s the Cardinals would be way down the bottom. They have a great GM.

Auggie

(31,172 posts)
6. Replies included all aspects of the franchise, including venue
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:37 PM
Oct 2016

Stadium/arena, customer relations, ticket prices, price of beer, etc.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
7. Reading they have their highest marks for arena
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:48 PM
Oct 2016

Ticket prices though they have the most expensive soda. They have low marks for ownership, coaching, and roster. They won't be able to attract Durants, James, etc in free agency but feel they are doing a good job stockpiling young talent.

I notice the Coyotes are high mostly due to ticket prices. I think they should use caution ranking based on ticket prices because in most cases prices are high as possible in order to turn a profit. If there is a higher demand they are going to raise the price, if they're struggling to attract fans or play in a smaller market they are going to lower prices usually not because of the kindness in their hearts. The Coyotes play on the edge of the Phoenix metro area mostly on week nights so they have little choice but to knock down prices and do promotional giveaways.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
8. I'm surprised that
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016

the Raiders aren't also in the bottom 10 (with the A's) after all the losing seasons and the owner's attempts to alienate the home fans.

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