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Show me a good loser and Ill show you a loser, Newton said Tuesday as players cleaned out their lockers at the teams downtown stadium.
If I offended anybody thats cool, but I know who I am and Im not about to conform nor bend for anybodys expectations because yours or anybodys expectations would never exceed mine...Who are you to say that your way is right? I have all of these people who are condemning and saying this, that and the third, but what makes your way right?
Panthers coach Ron Rivera said while he prefers his fifth-year quarterback would have handled the situation a little better, he understands where he is coming from and what he felt at the time. Thats who he is. He hates to lose, thats the bottom line, Rivera said. That is what you love in him. I would much rather have a guy who hates to lose than a guy who accepts it. The guy who accepts it, you might as well just push him out of your locker room because you dont want him around..."
Show me a bad loser, and I'll show you a possibly psychotic overgrown brat. And a bad leader. AND a loser....
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Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)going on a few feet away with nothing but a curtain separating them. Between the media idiots and the trash talk coming from the Broncos, Cam let them carry on the ambush without him. Note: He did meet the right wing repuke Manning on the field after the game, congratulated him, and was even smiling while they talked. Manning left the field during Saints Super Bowl win while there was still time on the clock and congratulated nobody.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Psychiatrists probably have a fancy name for it, but everyone experiences feelings with a different intensity. I'm not talking about the social role that says that "real men don't eat quiche," nor am I talking about a mental disorder where mania and/or depression arises out of nowhere specific.
I'm talking about something much deeper and more fundamental; simply the intensity with which one experiences joy and/or emotional pain. We tend to assume that we all feel it the same way, but we don't. A true sociopath, for instance, has an emotional regulator which is set at zero, and is a major danger to society because he cannot experience feelings at all. Others feel things with an intensity which they literally cannot control. Most of us are somewhere in the middle.
Cam Newton is a really intense guy. He feels things with a greater intensity than most people. When he feels good, he feels really, really good. He celebrates in a big way because he is feeling the thrill in a big way. When he loses, the disappointment overwhelms him.
Does that justify his behavior? No. All of us have to learn who we are and how to deal with that in socially acceptable ways. Psychotic? No. He is a young guy, and is still learning how to deal with who he is.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)was he acting like a sore loser?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445
He didn't congratulate the opposing quarterback Drew Brees, as is customary. He didn't shake any hands. He didn't try to smile. He just bailed.
Here's how Chris Chase, of Yahoo Sports recalled it in an article entitled, "Peyton Manning storms off Super Bowl field. Is he a poor sport?"
"Peyton Manning didn't shake hands with New Orleans Saints players after his Indianapolis Colts lost 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Apparently some think this is a sign of poor sportsmanship from the NFL's greatest player. It's not. Walking off the field without congratulating Drew Brees may go against our misguided notion of what sportsmanship should be, but it wasn't at all disrespectful or bitter. It shows how much Peyton Manning wanted to win the game. And who can argue about that?"
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)More on the race angle:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027596463
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Also, you gotta remember most sportswriters have hard-ons for Payless...had the roles been reversed, he might be singing a different tune about Drew
mythology
(9,527 posts)I find his constant dancing and celebrations silly and poor sportsmanship. Being a crappy interview after losing the biggest game of your life and being physically hit a lot would make most people crabby.
But I find all of the dancing and goofing off silly. It was stupid when J.J. Watt did that selfish celebration, it was childish when Wes Welker made a snow angel with his team up 30 points. It was stupid when the Chicago lineman blew his knee out celebrating a sack with his team down by 30 points.
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but when the going gets tough, he not only gets going, he has the nerve to demand respect for standing up for what he sees as an inalienable right not be incriminated for it!
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rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2019, 01:48 PM - Edit history (2)
But he's certainly set a precedent by insisting that his sulking and tantrums not only transcend even the prospect of criticism, but are worthy of admiration -- THAT'S what I mean by possibly psychotic.
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El Supremo
(20,365 posts)Just like Durocher's "Nice guys finish last."
I agree with both.
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Is sore losing a virtue -- or is Cam trying to avoid accountability by arguing that what he did COULDN'T have been bad or wrong simply because HE did it?
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