Have you heard? Tim Tebow is back!!!

[El Supremo]

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[shenmue]

1. What did he do?

Is he an announcer or something?

[yallerdawg]

2. Great 'Sports' story!

Hard work, perseverance and sheer willpower have created an opportunity for him to work his way into Chip Kelly's offensive scheme.

What a story! We'll see...

[trumad]

4. sorry...that's does not lead to throwing the ball with accuracy..

His religious sycophants have no clue what it takes to be a successful NFL QB.

[yallerdawg]

8. "Religious sycophants?"

This is a story of the 'power of intentionality' and commitment.

How many NFL players raise a finger to the heavens when they achieve virtually anything? How many take a knee when they score?

Should football be just the domain of the brain-damaged, steroid-pumping criminal element of gladiators?

Or are there sports stories we can still gather around the campfires and tell with honor, respect and reverence. Like "Rudy, like "Brian's Song," like "Remember the Titans," stock boy Kurt Warner, Kirk Gibson coming off the bench in the World Series, the Sox down 3 games and fated to never win...Tom Brady near perfection throwing fully inflated balls!

I guarantee you without a doubt, Tim Tebow is not the worst quarterback in the NFL.

Certainly he doesn't have the status at this time of a Manziel (out of substance-abuse rehab) or a Jameis Winston (pending civil rape charges) or Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, or the newest member of the "Longest Yard" club, Aaron Hernandez.

But it's not about his athletic ability, is it?

[trumad]

9. +What I wrote in the sports forum.

To be a successful NFL quarterback you need a strong presence in the pocket and most importantly, you have to be an accurate passer.

Mr. Tebow falls short with both.

Number one: The dude has horrible throwing mechanics---and I don't care how much you train on fixing it---it you ain't got it by the time you hit the pros, you ain't ever going to have it.

Number two: You have to have command of the pocket. If not, your feet get happy, you panic, and then you try and run. Tebow may have been able to get away with it in college---but not in the Pros....linebackers running faster than you will get you every time. Panic also forces you to throw shitty passes.

Number three: Accuracy. The two mentioned above---Throwing mechanics and panic lead to crap accuracy. Check the stats below--- clear indication that Mr. Tebow couldn't hit the side of an airplane hanger standing 20 yards from it.

Over the last 10 seasons, no quarterback has completed a lower percentage of his passes (min. 250 attempts) than Tim Tebow, who is reportedly set to sign with the Eagles:

Tim Tebow - 47.9%
Ryan Lindley - 50.8%
Curtis Painter - 51.6%
JaMarcus Russell - 52.1%

Look---no one is saying that Tebow doesn't have a huge heart and desire to succeed. I give the guy props for that. BUT I've been watching football for 40 years and have seen good ones and very bad ones come and go at the QB position. Sorry but Tebow falls into the bad category in MHO.

Chip Kelly with his college offense might make a difference---but I contend that Chip Kelly with his college offense might not be the coach of the Iggles after this season. The dude is not impressing me all all with his roster moves, etc. He may be just like Tebow---great in college but not very good in the NFL.

[yallerdawg]

10. Now that's a critique and opinion I can respect.

However, as you know, football is a team sport. When you pull a player off the bench, he is usually playing with other benched players, the least experienced or worst players on the team.

How about reps in practice with the starters or even the backups? Nothing at all like getting into the game week after week.

If your coach has a team built around a particular style of play, and you are really just a backup, what opportunity do you really have? How are your stats going to appear?

There are lots and lots of NFL quarterbacks who never had 250 attempts in games. 3 and 4 deep in the roster who may come in and hand off the ball while time runs out. And will end their player days never having 250 attempts in a game.

I started watching seasonal football with the Dallas Cowboys in '72 while I grew up in Houston. Staubach, Duane Thomas, Bob "Bullet" Hayes, Doomsday Defense, Tom Landry. Super Bowl victory.

I've been watching the Chip Kelly experiment (when I have disliked Philadelphia for a lifetime, for reason as noted in previous paragraph). I saw Tebow's mastery of this run-and-gun offense at Florida, reveling myself in every Crimson Tide victory that left Tebow in tears (OK, not that many). We'll see if there is a little bit of that magic left, where a coach and a player and a scheme come together. It may not be Tebow - it could be another - but it could be Tebow...

[trumad]

12. Mastery in college.

The Dolphins a few years back brought out the wildcat offense and it worked for 2 or 3 games. Totally caught the Pat's off guard when it was deployed.

Guess what---it died a quick death because NFL Defensive coordinators figured it out quickly and shut it down.

The Pro game is miles ahead of college ball---miles ahead.

Here's the thing---you see a guy like Russell Wilson succeed because ---he has speed, and he has accuracy.

You see a guy like Brady succeed because he has a mastery of the pocket and he has accuracy--same goes with AAron Rodgers.

The Chip Kelly experiment---well good luck with that. College ball in the NFL---

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. If Philly's Offensive Coordinator has half a brain... Tebow will be a tight end.

A Hall of Fame tight end.

[trumad]

5. Two small...

And he has no clue on how to run proper routes.

[DinahMoeHum]

6. I've always thought that too, but the SIN of PRIDE. . .

. . .runs strong in that guy. I believe he thinks he has this "divine right" to be a QB in the NFL.

[bluedigger]

7. If anyone could have done that, the Pats would have.

It all starts with the player's willingness to adapt to the needs of the team, of course. Tebow hasn't shown any interest in playing a position other than QB, presumably his by divine right or something.

[erpowers]

13. Does Not Want To Play that Position

Tim Tebow has made it very clear that he only wants to be an NFL Quarterback. He had said that he dies not even want to play Quarterback in the Canadian Football League.

[KamaAina]

11. I may yet end up rooting for the Cowpies after all.