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Auggie

(31,173 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:02 PM Dec 2013

Norv Turner asks the Browns: WTF?

Okay, not actually. But here's what went down according to ESPN:

Offensive coordinator Norv Turner spoke up when Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and CEO Joe Banner talked to the coaching staff Monday about the firing of coach Rob Chudzinski, according to sources familiar with the situation.

Whether it was a challenge or a calm question seems a matter of interpretation. Two sources said Turner was angry and spoke that way, another said he simply stated his concerns as part of a routine discussion that takes place when such moves are made.

Either way, Turner clearly asked why the staff was told the plan was for a long-term rebuild when the commitment from the front office didn't last a year. Turner also detailed his concern that the coaching staff worked with handicaps given the personnel on the field, the sources said.

Among his points were that the staff was told repeatedly the team was building for 2014, that the running back situation was never solved after the trade of Trent Richardson, the roster was constantly juggled, and the team fired a coach after he had to start three different quarterbacks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10223278/norv-turner-questioned-cleveland-browns-firing-rob-chudzinski

Link says "Turner did a slow boil throughout the season at the talent the coaches were given" and that the Browns are set to interview Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles for the headcoaching position.

What a fucked-up organization.

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Auggie

(31,173 posts)
6. They're poised to turn it around though ...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:16 AM
Jan 2014

With $50 million in dead money off the books, and another $20 in expiring contracts, the Raiders are offically done with the Al Davis era. There can be no more excuses.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
7. NFL Owners: It's Not Your Coaches, It's You
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177747/dear-nfl-owners-its-not-your-coaches-its-you#

(snip)
The Browns are owned by a man named Jimmy Haslam, who is under a federal investigation for his company’s involvement in “fuel rebate fraud.” He said this week that the criminal probe and looming indictment “has been a distraction.”
(snip)

The Cleveland franchise is not the only one with piss-poor leadership issues starting from the top.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. I'm no fan of Haslam, but I don't think the problem is that he hasn't been able to
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jan 2014

dedicate enough of his time and energy to the Browns. As the piece points out, so often, the issue is when these owners get involved.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
10. True enough. Owners like Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

are Exhibit A as control freaks who think they're bigger than the game and smarter than anyone else.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. They want to interview Todd Bowles
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jan 2014

but they have Ray Horton on staff who is just as good or better as a DC.

Hard to judge Bowles because Arizona has talent, the year before with Philly the defense became worse with his hire while Ray Horton improved Cleveland's D.

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