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NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)either way, it will be a tired team....
Looking forward to Saturday night!
Upton
(9,709 posts)Infante just swung at ball 3 and 4 with the bases loaded..With Verlander going they could have put the A's away right there.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)This is awful!
marmar
(77,081 posts)Auggie
(31,171 posts)except for those two assholes in Comerica Park's right field Monday night.
Upton
(9,709 posts)but he's probably going to be worth more money than the A's are willing to pay. Perhaps this Moneyball isn't all it's cracked up to be..
Auggie
(31,171 posts)Are you suggesting the A's acquire Pablo just so they can beat Detroit? They already have a third baseman with all-star numbers in Josh Donaldson.
BTW, this year Moneyball performed better than seven of the top ten teams in salary, nine if you go by total victories.*
New York Yankees $228,995,945
Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
Philadelphia $159,578,214
Boston $158,967,286
Detroit $149,046,844
San Francisco $142,180,333
Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
Texas $127,197,575
Chicago White Sox $124,065,277
Toronto $118,244,039
Oakland $68,577,000
*2013 Opening Day Payroll
Upton
(9,709 posts)not when you've lost the deciding game in the NLDS on your home field to the same team and pitcher two years in a row. They've been unable to score on Verlander for 30 consecutive postseason innings. A hitter like Sandoval could alleviate that, but the A's wouldn't be able to afford him after he becomes a FA.
Those payroll stats just illustrate my point..3 of the top 5 teams in payroll are in MLB's final four, the Cards are 10th. Moneyball's winning on the cheap, may be good for some regular season success, the playoffs not so much.
Auggie
(31,171 posts)even if he was on this postseason A's roster Verlander could have pitched around him.
Moneyball is here as long as there's no salary cap. Thank goodness for the concept, otherwise the league would be dominated by the same franchises year after year after year.
Upton
(9,709 posts)since Beane took over in 1997, the A's have reached the ALDS 7 times, which is a positive thing, yet they've only gone 1-6 in those series. In the postseason, often you need those elite players to get you over the hump. The kind of player who costs real money. The kind of player Moneyball doesn't allow for.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Since those payroll teams use sabermetrics now which is what Moneyball was about, a low payroll team finding an edge that other teams aren't aware of.
Which leads to me wonder, if all the teams now about all this, how is Oakland still finding an edge? They should probably write another book and film for the last 2 seasons.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)This is enough to patch together a weak hitting team and use pitching to get through the season. But then they don't make good playoff teams. Their hitting gets exposed in a series.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)to the same team in the postseason; they lost to Detroit in '06, last year, and again last night.
Detroit Tigers are mostly in the playoffs every year to troll the A's, and then they lose later on in the championship. Damn them.