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Related: About this forumPats act like giant douches, cut a player because he has diabetes
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/2013/05/15/pats-cut-starting-love-after-diabetes-diagnosis/WsgvifD6H0LP0ahGthc24H/story.html
They expressed some concern that they didnt know what the recovery time would be and, in their view, didnt want to leave something to chance, Kopelman said. Thats OK. There are 31 other teams in the NFL....
I think he was, as anybody might be, a bit surprised that a decision would be made in the manner it was, but he completely understands and theres no grudge, Kopelman said....
He said that after he consulted with doctors, he expects Love to be 100 percent by the start of training camp.
You know who else has diabetes? Jay Cutler. You know who played his entire NHL career with diabetes? Bobby Clarke. One of the toughest SOB's on two skates.
I hope he catches on with the Jets and puts a hit on Brady. Not a bad one, but just enough to scare the people up in Kraft's box.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)No one knows why...the fact that he was dx'd as T2 doesn't explain why they waived him. Maybe. could not perform? And there are D1 players in the league who have a harder time managing their disease....
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)As did Cutler. Thanks for playing, though.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)That's no good for a DL. I hope he returns to the league when he is able. I'm sure he is grateful for the opportunity NE gave him after going undrafted.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Last year, the Ravens Dwan Edwards was the lightest at 290. I'm not that familiar with diabetes, can he maintain the weight he needs and manage his condition at the same time?
mythology
(9,527 posts)You know, one that isn't entirely classless and willing to violate the Americans with Disabilities Act.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The new team will find themselves in the same spot that the Patriots were in... They have 3 choices as far as I can tell.
With Love at 280 lbs now and having to manage his condition, I'm sure his doctor has recommended further weight loss as it will help his overall health.
The new team can:
1. Encourage him to lose the weight and have a defensive lineman who's more than 10 lbs lighter than anyone else at his position, or try to move him to another position that he can play at a lighter weight.
2. Encourage him to go against the medical recommendations and NOT lose the weight. Live with the issues related to diabetes and manage them as best as he can.
3. Cut him
It seems pretty heartless to cut him. It seems pretty heartless to ask him to keep the weight on and manage his condition as best he can. I guess the right thing to do is to send someone out on the field who doesn't have the physical tools to do their job.
I guess another team is going to find themselves in this same no-win situation before long. I suspect the new team is planning to go with option 2.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)as was also the case with Jay Cutler.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jacksonville-jaguars-claim-kyle-love-release-england-patriots-235133442.html
hughee99
(16,113 posts)particularly those with more than 30% body fat. It sounds like Love's plan is to try to keep the weight on and deal with the symptoms (option 2). If he didn't NEED the weight to do his job, I'll bet he'd have a hell of a time finding a doctor who didn't recommend he lose weight. Now that he's with Jacksonville, perhaps they'll be okay with him potentially mortgaging his future health for his current job. I guess that would make them "less heartless" than New England.
As far as Cutler goes, it's apples and oranges. They don't even have the same kind of diabetes. Cutler has Type 1, and while no doctor is going to recommend you be overweight regardless of the type you have, the treatments for type 1 tend to be far more "medical" (insulin replacement therapy, transplants, etc..) than type 2.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Defenders are to gently hug Brady if they get close and slowly guide him to the ground.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)with the Jags.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jacksonville-jaguars-claim-kyle-love-release-england-patriots-235133442.html
Love chose the latter, and as it turned out, he didn't have to wait long for a team interested in his services. The Jacksonville Jaguars reported, per the team's official website, that they picked Love up off waivers on Thursday. Love had lost about 30 pounds off his 315-pound frame in the offseason, which left him unable to participate in off-season activities for the Pats, but according to his agent, Richard Kopelman, Love is back in fighting shape and ready for action.
Prior to the diagnosis, Kyle recently experienced unexplained weight loss (as did Jay Cutler -Ed.), but since being diagnosed and having altered his diet, Kyle has regained most of the weight he lost, is in good health, and was not limited in any way during offseason workouts in which he was engaged up until being told he would be released," Kopelman told ESPN Boston on Wednesday.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)At the time, Love's injury wasn't considered to be serious despite being labeled as "questionable" for five straight weeks. He was most notably taken out during passing downs and was supplanted by Brandon Deaderick on others. Deaderick, who was cut by the team on Monday, will join him in Jacksonville after both were claimed by the Jaguars.
The mid-May cuts are not to be taken lightly for Love or Deaderick. Both were key role players for the Patriots. What was most concerning for Love was the appearance of the Patriots cutting a productive member of the team for having a manageable disease.
That doesn't jive with the team's history though, as noted by Comcast SportsNet New England's Tom E. Curran. Just look at the signing of defensive lineman Armond Armstead, who had a heart attack while at USC. He was expected to compete with Love. The Patriots drafted offensive tackle Marcus Cannon just weeks after he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Tedy Bruschi stuck around after he had a stroke. All of that gives little air to the notion that Love's release was strictly a medical decision. If you can play, you play.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2013/05/kyle_loves_depa.html
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:56 PM - Edit history (1)
but as it turns out, the giant douches in Jacksonville cut him before the season started. The Seahawks and 49ers worked him out a couple of weeks ago, but neither signed him.
I'm sure everyone made a big deal of it when the heartless Jags dropped him, so I'm not sure how I missed it.