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Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:30 AM Feb 2018

Anyone reading Lincoln in the Bardo?

It's difficult to describe. Reminds me of a book of the dead narrated by spirits caught up in something of a purgatory. It's a story told by quotations. As the title gives away, it takes place during the Civil War. You get to know several of the lonely ghosts, how they met their ends, and how a few of the spirits cling to their humanity by "saving" young William Lincoln AFTER he is interred. There's a lot there: history, mysticism, humor. It may not be for everyone, parts are sad, but I'm really enjoying it, although I'll probably need to read it more than once because I know I'm missing loads. I recommend.

I'm terrible at reviews and not sure I'm doing it justice. If someone else wants to take a shot at a better review, please, please do.


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Anyone reading Lincoln in the Bardo? (Original Post) Laffy Kat Feb 2018 OP
I've read it, a few months ago. I liked it but it really is hard to describe. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #1
I know. I've never read anything like it. nt Laffy Kat Feb 2018 #2
The audiobook is supposed to be amazing. nt sweetloukillbot Feb 2018 #4
I have not read it, and probably won't. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #3
I don't know if I'd say sci-fi sweetloukillbot Feb 2018 #5
Excellent point. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #6
Agree completely sweetloukillbot Feb 2018 #9
Recommend Kim Stanley Robinson roscoeroscoe Feb 2018 #7
Yes getting old in mke Feb 2018 #8
Yes. That is an excellent book. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #10
Agreed! roscoeroscoe Feb 2018 #11
I've read that one! PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #12

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,737 posts)
1. I've read it, a few months ago. I liked it but it really is hard to describe.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:34 AM
Feb 2018

It's weird, but in a good way. I should reread it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
3. I have not read it, and probably won't.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:15 AM
Feb 2018

As a reader of science fiction, all of the descriptions and reviews of this seem like yet another book that is essentially science fiction written by someone totally outside the genre.

That said, I LOVED Tenth of December.

sweetloukillbot

(11,030 posts)
5. I don't know if I'd say sci-fi
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:20 AM
Feb 2018

But it is blurring the borders between lit fic and spec fic, from the lit fic side. Kind of the same blurry area that "Beloved," "Underground Railroad" and "The Buried Giant occupy.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
6. Excellent point.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:28 AM
Feb 2018

It's certainly not science fiction that those of us in the s-f world would recognize. I've never read "Beloved". I have read "Undereground Railroad" and agree that it is in a blurry area.

One of the things that those of us in s-f are made crazy by, is that we are deemed less worthy than other forms of literature.

As someone once pointed out, "literary fiction" is a genre. Just like romance or mystery or science fiction. The only difference is that "literary fiction" is considered better than those others. Hah!

sweetloukillbot

(11,030 posts)
9. Agree completely
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:24 PM
Feb 2018

Lit fic has it's tropes just as sci-fi has it's tropes. And it doesn't sell as well! Of course neither sci-fi or lit fic sell near mysteries, let alone romance...
I like seeing literary authors play with sci-fi for several reasons, mainly because they don't know the rules they don't know they are breaking them. At the same time, I don't appreciate when they look down on sci-fi, like Margaret Atwood tends to. And Ishiguro made some statements that sounded pretty condescending about spec fic when he was promoting Buried Giant, but he later clarified that he was talking more about critical attitudes than the actual works.
But the best of spec fic can stand next to the best lit fic - no one can say that Ursula LeGuin was less of an author because she wrote about aliens and magicians.

getting old in mke

(813 posts)
8. Yes
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:45 AM
Feb 2018

I remember looking, at the beginningof each section, looking at the initial letter of characters' names to re-orient myself.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
10. Yes. That is an excellent book.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:08 PM
Feb 2018

He did one of the best jobs of alternate history I've ever read. And I love alternate history.

roscoeroscoe

(1,370 posts)
11. Agreed!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:05 PM
Feb 2018

May I mention another:

Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus by, of all people, Orson Scott Card. Very interesting

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
12. I've read that one!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 06:23 PM
Feb 2018

Not alternate history, but two books that should be better known are Time on My Hands by Peter Delacorte and Replay by Ken Grimwood.

In the first a man who writes travel guidebooks is given a time machine on the understanding that he go back and prevent Reagan from becoming President. The man who originally has the time machine believes that Reagan was the worst President ever, and the country would be better off without him. The book came out in 1997. I read it then and have reread it several times since, but not since the current President took office.

The second asks the question, "What if you could live your life over? Then relive it again. And again." Excellent. It should be a movie or a limited series.

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