More on the Malheur Morans, legal scholars

[Mike__M]

The Oregon Standoff and the Cowboy Lawyers

Their legal theorizing tells them that the federal government can only own land within states under very limited circumstances and a wildlife refuge is not one of those circumstances. The cowboy legal scholars were not too sure what to make of it when informed that the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge used to be known as the Malheur Indian Reservation and it was land held in trust by the federal government for the Northern Paiutes.

The states cannot appear in the chain of land title unless they appear somewhere in the chain below the federal government. Therefore, if the cowboy legal scholars were to defeat the federal land titles that constitute so many burrs under their saddles, the result would not be state land. The result would be tribal land.

The cowboy legal scholars are about as competent as legal theorists as most law professors would be as cowboys.

Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/02/02/oregon-shootout-and-cowboy-lawyers

[safeinOhio]

1. Putting all of their money and precious liberty

on a loop hole.

[Ford_Prefect]

2. They are no cowboys. They are red neck idiots who couldn't find a range let alone ride one.

Big hat no cattle is a very apt description of most of them. They want a pretend cowboy life that never happened. Its the one they see in advertising and old TV shows where a "man" was defined by how fast and often he used his weapon to settle a score. Where patience, thought and information are trumped every time by attitude, anger and adrenaline. They imagine they would be the guys in the white hats bringing "Christian Justice" in this movie world, but in truth they are the lynch mob: driven by fear and greed, manipulated by the "big interests" they claim to abhor.

They are in a hurry to undo all they claim is wrong as long as it means they wind up with the land, the water, the trees, and what's under the land, with no "rules" or inconveniently placed Native Americans to interfere with their presumptive "god given" dominion. These are exactly the conditions that lead to the creation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

[newfie11]

4. I live in real cowboy country SD/WY border

And the ranchers I know are disgusted with these idiots.
Whose taking care of their ranches back home????

[Ford_Prefect]

5. The kids and the wife like they always have done.

Most of those guys are NOT ranchers in any sense. Ammon owns a diesel equipment service company, Ryan Bundy runs a building contracting firm. Finicum's "spread was run by his wife and foster kids. Many of the rest aren't even from ranch country. Most are wannabe gun totin' hombres and according to reports several are known criminals. Imagine the western redneck version of fraternity brother style hangers on and you have 1/2 of them.

[OldRedneck]

3. Speaking of who owns the land

Remember how, during the standoff at the Clive Bundy ranch, the terrorists claimed Bundy was defending "ancestral lands" that his family had owned since the 1800's -- or some such bullshit as that?

Turns out that a sharp-eyed journalist at a local newspaper took the simple step of checking the county property records.

Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy’s parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.

Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn’t start grazing on that land until 1954.

Read more at http://wonkette.com/547315/hero-ranchers-family-has-been-on-nevada-land-since-forever-or-at-least-1948#xQ11x3uiPbpXGbfH.99