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nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:44 PM Sep 2014

When offensive racial stereotypes are presented as "hard truths," I think it's pretty clear

the sort of person you're dealing with. And they don't even seem to realize (or care) how transparent they are.

(In reference to multiple Discussionist threads. Just FYI.)

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When offensive racial stereotypes are presented as "hard truths," I think it's pretty clear (Original Post) nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 OP
Just looked over there JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #1
Very bad here too randys1 Sep 2014 #2
Nope - say it - JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #3
Well, it isnt completely safe here...dont ask me how I know LOL randys1 Sep 2014 #4
White privilege is a fact. Period. heaven05 Sep 2014 #6
It is very surprising though randys1 Sep 2014 #7
I've been dealing with Dems and Rethugs heaven05 Sep 2014 #8
Technically I am a registered Dem, but I vote that way mainly for lack of better options. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #9
They know what they are doing and no, they don't care. heaven05 Sep 2014 #5
*That* was an absolutely fantastic rant! My hat is off to you. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #10
Welll said heaven JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #11
Thank You! NOLALady Sep 2014 #12
Speak, Sister! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #13

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Very bad here too
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:48 AM
Sep 2014

i cant say what is going on here, i will be hidden again, it is happening to me constantly whenever i mention white privilege

i am censoring myself big time so as not to be banned

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
3. Nope - say it -
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:12 AM
Sep 2014

Say it in response to this buddy

Start with -

This is Posted in the AA Group - A Protected Group AT DU

I do this sometimes when posting here, women focused groups and the Obama Group.

I woke up this morning to a banning by another group host -and it was probably well deserved.

And - I bet on this thread, in this group whomever is harassing you won't have the brass ovaries to pull the stunt.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Well, it isnt completely safe here...dont ask me how I know LOL
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:59 AM
Sep 2014

We need a message board where liberals can talk openly about stuff.

You know I dont see ads on this site, I wonder how the owner makes his money other than the membership dues which I dont think would be that much.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
6. White privilege is a fact. Period.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:00 PM
Sep 2014

You get can be censured or even banned on here for the truth, it is typical of the power inherent in the systemic and institutionalized racism of amerikkka yet call it like it is and follow the advice given to you by knowledgeable people on this site who have been here awhile and know their way around. Don't ever fear the deniers, they can run, they can hide(you) they can DENY(themselves) and their privilege(s), but cannot defeat the truth.......

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. It is very surprising though
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:03 PM
Sep 2014

I have a home board, sort of.

When I told them how bad it was they werent surprised, they have a more cynical view of mainstream dems than I do I guess

But most of these guys that are trying to ban me, I have to hope they are cons in disguise, otherwise i will probably have to leave the dem party someday

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. I've been dealing with Dems and Rethugs
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:12 PM
Sep 2014

for many years now. Some dems are extremely hurtful with their slick and transparent racism. Learn to ignore, if they don't want to face facts. I had to learn that lesson before I could begin to laugh at their obvious ignorance and transparency. If you have the truth in your heart, nothing and no one's argument will stop that truth.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
9. Technically I am a registered Dem, but I vote that way mainly for lack of better options.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:46 PM
Sep 2014

For state and local offices I tend to vote third party, usually Green.

And I think you're right, in that the majority of such folks ("deniers&quot are conservatives, a la Reagan Democrats, at heart. They may hold some relatively left-leaning positions, but they're only "liberal" by contrast with the extreme right.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. They know what they are doing and no, they don't care.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:12 AM - Edit history (7)

I woke up this morning literally thinking about the hate in this world. Racial, ethnic, gender, sexual preference, my personal hates and dislikes.... Must have been some hell of a dream. I don't remember them, so I don't know what precipitated this musing. But I trust this board so I'm going to give it a go.

The era started with me in the year 2008, when Barack Hussein Obama ascended to the presidency of the USA, and that era has been one of truly sad wonderment at how really hateful and mean some human beings(americans) are. Given my 55 years of dealing with human hate based on my mixed parentage, in the 50's and 60's, a living hell, I am not surprised nor have I ever been at the amount of hateful people that have finally been vomited out of the modern cesspool of american racism. The racists don't care to hide their hate and filth anymore. The courts are taking away voting and human rights and the RW applauds by saying we're in a 'post racial america'. I'm not fooled, there are still a lot hiding in the racist swamp waiting for their Ra Ho Wa against the "evil minorities and their Jewish masterminds". And they use Fux news and hate radio to give them their justification for that Ra Ho Wa.


America has always had it's fair share of hate mongers, race baiters and just the plain run of the mill haters of anyone 'different' than they, based on whatever critieria that 'other' fits into. There is nothing short of death, theirs, natural, that will stop their line of thinking. Nothing. I can get into the socio-psychological effect that slavery had/has on the ongoing fabric of american culture being woven. I will not. Those who do know are usually not surprised, outraged yes, but not surprised at the executions currently going on in america at hands of state sanctioned officers of the law. The courts generated this hate. Koch broths media has generated this hate. The families that have never had to touch 'dirt' have allowed this hate and that hate has festered for generations.

When Trayvon Martin was murdered I was truly saddened by the fact that the touted 'post racial society' was still a MLKesque "DREAM", African-American POTUS notwithstanding. Yet not surprised. The seeming upsurge in racist, gender and lifestyle hate has ALWAYS been here among the bundy Ra Ho Wa crowd and multitudes of others, BHO just provided, with RW media pundit agitation, the brown person needed as a focus for their manipulative and visceral hate of brown skin. The Ra Ho Wa crowd and others latched onto that manipulation with glee. They finally had justification for their hate and they did not have to hide anymore in our 'post racial society'. Not realizing that their racist hate was pre, now and post hate. Nothing new, just the openness with their hate the likes I haven't seen or felt since Civil Rights days fighting for my human and voting rights. It is realized by decent people as always having being here. Now there are good and decent people of all races, there are mean and vicious people of all races, nationalities, religions and ethnic origins. Whites don't have a monopoly on hate, crime or any other heinous activity of the human race and contrary to the racist and their apologists view, neither do minorities in america.

This constant need by elements of the white community to ALWAYS paint black and brown minorities as somehow more susceptible to crime, greed and malfeasance is just an invention of our RW extremist in this country with the help of their media pundits. Blacks have shot down unarmed whites and whites are shooting down unarmed blacks. Blacks have attacked whites in the streets and whites attack blacks. Blacks hate and fight blacks, in my opinion, because of race engendered self negativity, whites hate and fight whites. And no one race more than the other.

There is no hard truth of any race. The only hard truth is that there are racist whites and bigoted blacks and browns. Period. One has power to perpetuate hate in it's institutions and cultural systems, one is 'reacting' to that power in a lot of negative self hating and defeating ways.

Discussionist is an eye on true society member interaction. Nothing more, nothing less. It has shown me the white denial of their privilege, Du has also, but to a lesser degree. Discussionist has shown me outright racism, misogyny, cultural ignorance and downright stupidity. That is part and parcel of american culture born out of Native American genocide and perpetuated, in part, by slavery of the black race.

It and DU have also shown me decency, love, compassion and understanding and a willingness to dialog on issues that affect us all. DU more than Discussionist by far.

As long as we're talking and trying to relate to each other on a strictly human level, we people of decency, humanity and compassion are the only ones holding back the tide of RW fascism and dictatorship looming on all our horizons. Make no mistake, we are the bastion and the only ones that can fight the racism, hate, bigotry and ignorance that reeks in it's stink while degrading the society and ALL it's citizens. I better stop now.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. *That* was an absolutely fantastic rant! My hat is off to you.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:08 PM
Sep 2014


You really got it all in there - the festering hatred, of self and others, that mars nearly everyone's existence to one degree or another. And just as importantly, the denial and projection (onto a feared Other) of this pathology.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
11. Welll said heaven
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:34 AM
Sep 2014


Discusionst (sp on purpose to not give links to my user name) thrives for a reason.
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