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FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:17 PM Feb 2016

Why was Bernie Sander's audience at Morehouse College, an HBCU, predominantly White?

Last edited Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:30 PM - Edit history (2)

What was that about? I don't get it....

Where did all of the actual Black Folks go?

https://twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/699759691539156992

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/699768218265788416

Edited 2/19 to add video link.... https://twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/699351962471505920


Is this some kind of joke? Or is this what we called "trying to Bamboozle"?



Edited to update & add:
And I thought the place was 4500 there.....
but capacity for this particular venue is 2900 or something like that...,
and it doesn't look full....
so I don't know what "image" the media is trying to create here? Answer me that!



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Why was Bernie Sander's audience at Morehouse College, an HBCU, predominantly White? (Original Post) FrenchieCat Feb 2016 OP
I saw pics of the long lines CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #1
That's not what I see..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #2
I agree with coffeecat. seaotter Feb 2016 #5
Are you kidding me? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #9
I kid you not. seaotter Feb 2016 #19
That goes for me too... I hope you work as hard for Bernie in November berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #27
But if you're unwilling to work for Bernie.... daleanime Feb 2016 #80
google 840high Feb 2016 #11
That's what Sanders' handlers wanted you to see. Hoyt Feb 2016 #7
Do you think that Sanders is intentionally misrepresenting the crowd? (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #23
Are Sanders' supporters the only ones who can believe in conspiracies and devious campaigning? Hoyt Feb 2016 #36
That's what the media wanted us to see.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #138
yes. Cha Feb 2016 #191
Apparently so. Hoyt Feb 2016 #192
I can't imagine Bernie's handlers doing anything like that deliberately. merrily Feb 2016 #26
Seems to me the OP photo is not a photoshop. Hoyt Feb 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Feb 2016 #38
You doth protest too much. lovemydog Feb 2016 #59
So all campaigns work to create an image of their candidate and the supporters... Agschmid Feb 2016 #122
Please take this mess out of here. Thanks Number23 Feb 2016 #146
Thanks JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #155
I wouldn't be the tiniest bit opposed if you still did block Number23 Feb 2016 #156
No - her swoops in JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #173
Now that you mention it, wildeyed Feb 2016 #3
It's beyond weird.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #6
HBCU? Historically Black College University? n/t GP6971 Feb 2016 #4
Historically Black Colleges & Universities.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #8
I was close GP6971 Feb 2016 #10
Morehouse College Students. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #12
at their Graduation? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #17
Yes, graduation. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #20
The seated sections were filled with the HBCU students. JimDandy Feb 2016 #13
Really depends where you point the camera. femmedem Feb 2016 #14
ty 840high Feb 2016 #21
That first video JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #15
Deploy the melanin scanner!!!!!! jeff47 Feb 2016 #16
Or look and then Just read.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #29
Hee hee--for those with failing eyes!! MADem Feb 2016 #118
Oh snap! I figured it was something like that. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #139
Girl, where did you get that gif?? That is HILARIOUS!! Number23 Feb 2016 #147
Ain't that some shizznit? I almost died. I was looking for my favorite & this one popped up on Bing. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #151
@BernieSanders @Morehouse He knew about this, didn't do one damn thing! Now he wants the POC vote Cha Feb 2016 #171
@OhioCitizen @trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse At this point, black folks are like "show me" Cha Feb 2016 #172
A very good question mcar Feb 2016 #18
The audience was predominantly 840high Feb 2016 #22
Here.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #25
ok frenchieCat..get your magnifying glass out and give us a count...what is the def of race baiting? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #30
Evidently, you don't really know? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #33
Did you count black people FrenchieCat?? did you find the definition of race baiting ? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #35
And why are you bringing up race baiting? kwassa Feb 2016 #43
Probably the same thing everyone who uses a term like race baiting does. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #47
That talking about race is race-baiting? kwassa Feb 2016 #49
Specifically in such a way that makes white people uncomfortable. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #54
well, we can't be making white people uncomfortable .... kwassa Feb 2016 #56
That's why I didn't bother to respond.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #61
This white person is somewhat uncomfortable about this subthread... Agschmid Feb 2016 #127
This white person is uncomfortable wildeyed Feb 2016 #183
interesting comments berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #101
Race baiting is what you are doing here in this thread. lovemydog Feb 2016 #46
You are being blocked from this group Number23 Feb 2016 #149
Thank you for taking out the trash. zappaman Feb 2016 #184
Speaking of "puppet" Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #189
That person has been here barely two weeks. Has two hidden posts and been blocked from AA Number23 Feb 2016 #201
He has been an extremely busy little bee! betsuni Feb 2016 #206
"what is the def of race baiting?" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #40
There are more than one definitions.. heres a few I found... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #44
I think the only people I have ever heard/seen use the term "race-baiting" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #48
+1! nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #50
I agree 100%. kwassa Feb 2016 #51
That is wrong .. your opinion but I disagree... can you give some examples of why you feel this berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #55
Let me help you with that: NuclearDem Feb 2016 #57
I didn't make the false claim that it was a white crowd... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #65
Niether did the OP. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #92
They made the claim it was a predominately white crowd..which it wasn't imho... and the OP made the berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #95
Are you serious? MADem Feb 2016 #120
What's wrong? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #62
That doesn't make sense... its argumentative and doesn't help us in the struggle berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #64
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #77
In no way have I ever wanted to shut down any discussion... I was not the one who injected our berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #79
I don't want to build a "new world" based on ignoring ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #88
me either.. can't you tell that by our conversation... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #90
Frankly. No, I can't tell ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #177
^^^ All of THIS ^^^ bettyellen Feb 2016 #197
Speak on it 1SBM. It's a useful tactic often used to shut down debate. n/t Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #142
So, who is making unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes kwassa Feb 2016 #53
I don't want to call anyone person out as it is against our code of conduct here.... having said berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #63
You called out the OP as race-baiting. kwassa Feb 2016 #67
There is plenty of photos showing a diverse crowd ... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #69
the discussion was about the relative representation. kwassa Feb 2016 #72
semantics... the discussions point was that it was a predominately white audience and that white berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #75
Not semantics, and nowhere in the OP. How did you come up with that? kwassa Feb 2016 #78
It says it right in the OP... the crowd was predominately white... and accused the Sanders campaign berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #86
I think FrenchieCat is right about this. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #98
I'd have to put in more in the area of 40 to 45% Black... which isn't predominately berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #100
Why should the truth rub you the wrong way? Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #102
The point that the OP made that Bernie's campaign was trying to bamboozle people that is what rubbed berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #107
I didn't see the words "Bernie's campaign" in the OP Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #108
oh ok.. our object conversation seems to have ended... think I'll put on some Trane and smoke this berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #109
Smart thinking. When your argument can go no further Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #110
no ...that is wrong.. it just became clear to me that your support for hillary was clouding your berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #111
OK. Let's deflect to Hillary and forget about Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #114
I'm done you win.. you are wrong.. but you win... bye berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #115
I know I win and as of this moment I am right. No, Frenchie is right. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #116
You need to stop using that "Bamboozling" word. MADem Feb 2016 #131
"No more than thirty percent of the attendees at Bernie’s Morehouse rally were black." Number23 Feb 2016 #152
Whoa! I had to thank you for watching Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #153
Dayum qwlauren35 Feb 2016 #207
I know, right?!? Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #208
I'm going to lay this out as clear as possible for you: NuclearDem Feb 2016 #82
I'm sorry you feel that way.. from my perspective it was others in this group that were using berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #104
"race baiting" accusations leveled at POC for merely discussing race are pretty messed up. bettyellen Feb 2016 #119
It's amazing on the lack of self-awareness of some ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #178
Privilege so taken for granted that he couldn't Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #195
You may first want to recognize that you are part of the problem giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #175
Do you even understand the first thing about Morehouse? MADem Feb 2016 #123
"The best you can say about those pictures is that there's a load of salt up in that pepper!" Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #150
The OP didn't say there weren't Black folks there ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68
again argumentative... the idea that was put out by the OP was that there weren't many black people berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #71
Argumentative? from someone using the term race-baiting? kwassa Feb 2016 #73
Who brought race into it ? Falsely I might add... in order to gain political advantage for Hillary berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #76
You are missing everything, starting with the OP. The issue of race is entirely valid. kwassa Feb 2016 #85
But my point is that it isn't true that it was predominately white... many other posters put larger berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #89
The OP referenced twitter feeds, but ... kwassa Feb 2016 #91
we'll have to disagree on that point.. I think the goal of the OP was clear... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #93
Race is being discussed everywhere right now, if you hadn't noticed.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #94
I love talking race... I love sharing our struggles. But let's be honest .. what was the goal of berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #96
Hopefully after smoking your thing lovemydog Feb 2016 #124
Thanks for your opinion.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #130
'Race-baiting' is disrespectful when used in the way you used it. lovemydog Feb 2016 #135
would love to.. Good night.. we agree to disagree and still be cordial berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #136
Aloha Frenchie~ I just read your Tweet on "race baiting" Cha Feb 2016 #174
Sincerity... LanternWaste Feb 2016 #193
I guess you never learned the first rule of holes. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #196
Well ... that's one way to look at it ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #83
And the students are... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #24
Good question Gothmog Feb 2016 #28
OMG, there has been so much conversation about this! MADem Feb 2016 #31
LOL! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #34
LOL! Empowerer Feb 2016 #103
You might want to change your equipment. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #32
Look at the two videos in FrenchieCat's original post. lovemydog Feb 2016 #45
FrenchieCat always brings the goods~~!!! nt MADem Feb 2016 #117
indeed lovemydog Feb 2016 #126
I stand by my statement. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #198
In the Balcony? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #39
Back of the auditorium apparently! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #42
I'm not sure. kwassa Feb 2016 #41
Is this thread a joke? basselope Feb 2016 #52
I do not see a predominantly Black audience.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #58
yes.. i do... what are u looking at? basselope Feb 2016 #140
Did you look at the videos in the OP? kwassa Feb 2016 #60
Oh good grief, get glasses. The photos YOU put up right above this JimDandy Feb 2016 #66
but the videos originally posted were not, and I would not say packed .... kwassa Feb 2016 #70
Okay, that is more reasonable: to expect more than were there. JimDandy Feb 2016 #74
It's not about the entire state...vs. this rally..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #81
Are you suggesting that all Blacks on that campus are a homogenous group JimDandy Feb 2016 #99
I don't see 55% Back attendee..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #106
thats silly basselope Feb 2016 #143
Morehouse is a BLACK college, and a MALE college. MADem Feb 2016 #134
Reading is your friend. The premise was the attendees were not predominantly JimDandy Feb 2016 #154
It's called the AU Center, not U Center. And GA Tech is not in walking distance of the AU Center Number23 Feb 2016 #158
My friends there just call it the U Center. And you can JimDandy Feb 2016 #159
The point is that in black assed Atlanta and even blacker Morehouse College more than half the crowd Number23 Feb 2016 #160
We disagree on % per photos shown. And don't conjecture about my reasons JimDandy Feb 2016 #161
No one cares if you've changed your mind. But as I said, your hostility is unnecessary Number23 Feb 2016 #162
Why is this point so hard for some to get? mcar Feb 2016 #200
Well, I call B.S. on you and your dandy friends... Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #166
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #179
Oh Lord, you're a Morehouse Man on top of everything else??! Number23 Feb 2016 #202
See, there you go, trying to get me in trouble!!! Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #203
You are such a good egg. I am so glad that you are posting Number23 Feb 2016 #204
No--that was not the premise at all, and you might want to do MADem Feb 2016 #187
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #170
Morehouse is a MEN's HBC, too. All those women MADem Feb 2016 #121
yes... very diverse croud. basselope Feb 2016 #141
Your post is a joke because you don't seem lovemydog Feb 2016 #128
i did.. thats what makes it so funny. basselope Feb 2016 #145
This is crazy. Those black Millennials really packed that house Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #84
I can't tell from that photo. roody Feb 2016 #87
Morehouse College Students Give Energetic Performance at Bernie Sanders Rally w4rma Feb 2016 #97
Well we know the media...don't we? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #105
Well, this thread certainly brought them out. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #112
What a fun thread! betsuni Feb 2016 #113
duzy lovemydog Feb 2016 #125
LOL!!! MADem Feb 2016 #137
I saw an Iraq War documentary yesterday betsuni Feb 2016 #148
Betsuni Strikes Again! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #163
Thanks! Fun follows me around. betsuni Feb 2016 #168
Amen!! Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #169
A couple of tweets found @The Obama Diary, Frenchie.. Mahalo~ Cha Feb 2016 #129
Didn't you know #Berniesoblack? Seriously, I think these SAME "crowds" follow him from city to... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #132
The place was not at capacity either...they said 4,500 - place is supposed to be 2900 at capacity... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #133
I made that same observation the day of the Morehouse event Number23 Feb 2016 #144
Is it possible you think that if Sanders didn't fill that stadium (or whatever it is) mikehiggins Feb 2016 #157
Yes, I do think the media would not necessarily take note. kwassa Feb 2016 #186
Because Most of his Supporters are White JI7 Feb 2016 #164
Right on. I was thinking along the same lines. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #167
Yep. Politicians meet the 'influencers' at smaller events. wildeyed Feb 2016 #185
What's baffling is why the campaign did not Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #165
I guess that's what happens when you believe your own narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #180
Thanks for that! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #194
It's hard to tell from behind... cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #176
On another note ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #181
That *would* explain a whole lot! Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #182
I think you're on to something... zappaman Feb 2016 #188
lol@bernfeeler Cha Feb 2016 #190
lol lovemydog Feb 2016 #199
LOL! Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #205

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
1. I saw pics of the long lines
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

waiting to get in, and the crowd was mostly black. I'd guess 75-80 percent black.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
2. That's not what I see.....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

I also saw the pics of the lines. It was like 15% Black.

Look at the film panning, and come again.

 

seaotter

(576 posts)
19. I kid you not.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

Great job pushing your candidate's talking points, though . I hope you work just as hard for Bernie come November.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
11. google
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

During a Tuesday speech at Morehouse College, Bernie Sanders told the predominantly African-American crowd that local police forces in minority communities “look like they are occupying armies.”

Sanders began by saying tha

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. Are Sanders' supporters the only ones who can believe in conspiracies and devious campaigning?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. I can't imagine Bernie's handlers doing anything like that deliberately.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:13 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:50 AM - Edit history (1)

I had not noticed which forum I was replying in, though.

Response to Hoyt (Reply #37)

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
59. You doth protest too much.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

They weren't accusing Bernie. Something's inaccurate when that crowd is reported as a 'predominantly black audience'. It isn't. That it was misreported invites speculation.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
155. Thanks
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:36 AM
Feb 2016

I was going to block for the chastising and admonishment alone - writing to members in this Group with a wagging finger like the person is two is unacceptable.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
156. I wouldn't be the tiniest bit opposed if you still did block
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:38 AM
Feb 2016

The "contribution" to this thread was less than nothing.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
6. It's beyond weird....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

as the impression is that 4,500 Young Black folks came to see him speak.

Plus the "use" the Black fraternity footage to make it look like a Black event!

Wait till I tell my BLM activist daughter about this!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
20. Yes, graduation.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

from wiki:

Morehouse College is a private, all-male, liberal arts, historically black college located in Atlanta, in the U.S. state of Georgia.

Your picture does not look like any HBCU representation I have ever seen.

I live a couple miles from Alabama State University, where the local good ol' boys are trying to get a piece of property to erect a giant Confederate flag right across from the football stadium.

http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2016/02/group_hopes_to_install_large_c.html

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
13. The seated sections were filled with the HBCU students.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:35 PM
Feb 2016

It appears they were in line before the general public so they picked all the seating closest to the podium. That seating was a ways back from the podium. So the standing room area in front of the podium was left for the general public, which had a higher percent of Whites, much like the state's demographics.

In the first link, look at the seating to the left--it's filled with mostly Blacks.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
14. Really depends where you point the camera.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

There were pockets of white people and pockets of black people.

This image gives you a different, larger perspective.

I don't see a predominantly white audience here, although I see an area a few rows deep that is predominantly white that appears to have been caught in the video you posted.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
118. Hee hee--for those with failing eyes!!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:54 AM
Feb 2016


That is the whitest crowd EVER at a Morehouse event!

I had to LOL at this snark:

White-haired Senator ?@chemoelectric Feb 17
@trueblacknews @Gus_802 @BernieSanders @Morehouse It’s nice that Sanders believes in school busing. We could use more of it.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
139. Oh snap! I figured it was something like that.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:51 AM
Feb 2016
"A @BernieSanders rally at @Morehouse. Black students ignore event, White Supporters bused in #blacklivesmatter"






Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
151. Ain't that some shizznit? I almost died. I was looking for my favorite & this one popped up on Bing.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:08 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Cha

(297,323 posts)
171. @BernieSanders @Morehouse He knew about this, didn't do one damn thing! Now he wants the POC vote
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:48 AM
Feb 2016
Glenna C Eldridge ?@Aroyaldmd · Feb 17
@William53604792 @trueblacknews @lehimesa @BernieSanders @Morehouse He knew about this, didn't do one damn thing! Now he wants the POC vote


Thank you, Frenchie~

Cha

(297,323 posts)
172. @OhioCitizen @trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse At this point, black folks are like "show me"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:51 AM
Feb 2016
& "talk is cheap".

Buckaroo Banzai ?@buckaroo1260 · Feb 17
@OhioCitizen @trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse At this point, black folks are like "show me" & "talk is cheap".

mcar

(42,334 posts)
18. A very good question
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

I read somewhere that his supporters were bused in, which is all kinds of ironic.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
33. Evidently, you don't really know?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

read the comments.....

A @BernieSanders rally at @Morehouse. Black students ignore event, White Supporters bused in #blacklivesmatter
https://twitter.com/trueblacknews/status/699842725508747264

@trueblacknews @SouthernRock3 @BernieSanders @Morehouse Sanspders ought not think black folks are going to be taken in for a few shiny beads
@buckaroo1260 @trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse I'd like @BernieSanders to point to 1 socialist country good 4 black ppl. I'll wait.
@SouthernRock3 @trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse waiting...waiting...
@trueblacknews @lehimesa @BernieSanders @Morehouse I find it disturbing that a 95% white state Vermont has a 10% black prison population
@William53604792 @trueblacknews @lehimesa @BernieSanders @Morehouse He knew about this, didn't do one damn thing! Now he wants the POC vote
@Aroyaldmd @trueblacknews @lehimesa @BernieSanders @Morehouse it was brought to his attention on several occasions from what I understand
@trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders @Morehouse that's a lie CBS Atlanta showed video of the line that was 3 hours long in wait
. @Fried_Kimchi @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders @Morehouse it was a line full of White students who don't attend Morehouse
STIR Retweeted Mortijaé
@mybellmichell @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders @Morehouse oh like these
STIR added,
Savannah State University is headed to Morehouse for the Bernie Sanders Campaign Rally! #HBCUPride #FeeltheBern #SSU
. @Fried_Kimchi @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders Morehouse is a predominantly Black male college so he brought Black women and Whites
@mybellmichell @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders sounds like an excuse please stop
. @Fried_Kimchi @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders no sounds like you proved my point he still bussed them in
@mybellmichell @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders why would he speak at HBCU then ask a small state college 400 miles away to bus in
. @Fried_Kimchi @trueblacknews @OnePiano @BernieSanders because they know the students at Morehouse ignored the event



:large

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
61. That's why I didn't bother to respond....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:26 PM
Feb 2016

and why I didn't post this anywhere but here.....

Guess I brought some "Visitors".....

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
127. This white person is somewhat uncomfortable about this subthread...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:28 AM
Feb 2016

But it wasn't you that made me feel that way.

And I'm leaving it at that.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
183. This white person is uncomfortable
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:10 AM
Feb 2016

when other white people us the term race baiting to shut down discussions of race with POC. Also add racially divisive, PC and race card to that list.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
149. You are being blocked from this group
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:05 AM
Feb 2016

You don't come into the AA forum and accuse an AA member of "race baiting."

That kind of thing will win you a SLEW of friends in GDP but we know better.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
189. Speaking of "puppet"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016
Thank you for taking out the trash.

Yes, thank you....this 'poster' had almost 40 replies in the AA Forum in one day...mostly combative, mostly tone-deaf...and this after being a member of DU for only a couple of weeks. I'd like to compare his IP address with those who are already known to DU and see who this really was. This poster was looking for a 'rise' out of people and expected long-time AA Forum participants to act as immature as s/he.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
201. That person has been here barely two weeks. Has two hidden posts and been blocked from AA
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

Making quite the impression, he is.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
40. "what is the def of race baiting?" ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

I would guess coming into the African-American Group talking about "race-baiting."

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
44. There are more than one definitions.. heres a few I found...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

#1
race-bait
image:


also race·bait

verb
race-bait·ed, race-bait·ing, race-baits also race·bait·ed or race·bait·ing or race·baits
intransitive verb
To arouse the prejudice or fears of one racial group regarding another, especially as a political tactic.
transitive verb
To attack (another) on racial grounds, as for being a racist or for inciting racial prejudice.
To arouse the prejudices or fears of (one racial group) regarding another.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition Copyright © 2013 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/race-bait#yM14jLJXvGwEK172.99

#2
the unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people

#3
Oxford dictionary offers the most straightforward definition of race-baiting as “the incitement or exploitation of racial hatred, prejudice, or tension, usually … for political gain.”

#4
Essentially, race-baiting has occurred when candidates are willing to make full use of and derive benefit from preying on implicit racial prejudices—“racial divisiveness as a campaign strategy,” as The Atlantic puts it.



Your thoughts ?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
48. I think the only people I have ever heard/seen use the term "race-baiting" ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:12 PM
Feb 2016

were racists, and white liberals trying to shut down Black people from talking about race issues.

That's what I think.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
55. That is wrong .. your opinion but I disagree... can you give some examples of why you feel this
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

way about white liberals ??

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
95. They made the claim it was a predominately white crowd..which it wasn't imho... and the OP made the
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:57 PM
Feb 2016

inference that Bernie was trying to Bamboozle you/us

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
62. What's wrong? ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:26 PM
Feb 2016
can you give some examples of why you feel this way about white liberals ??


Yes ... You.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
77. Okay ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
Feb 2016

Yes ... You coming into the African-American Group calling using a term used by racists and white liberals to shut down discussions of observations regarding racial issues.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
79. In no way have I ever wanted to shut down any discussion... I was not the one who injected our
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

skin color into the conversation... but I was the one who pointed out that divisions along racial lines were being used to gain political advantage... that doesn't help us, it doesn't help build our new world

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
177. Frankly. No, I can't tell ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:14 AM
Feb 2016

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As far as I can tell is you want the exact opposite.

You want a world where a Black person, giving lie to a narrative, i.e., Black (Millennials) are feeling the burn, is race-baiting for partisan reasons; but, the campaign and supporter's promotion of the underlying narrative is fact-stating, even though the narrative is, observably, false.

And, you appear to want a world where you can call a Black person making observations a race-baiter and having that Black person just shut up about their observation ... because it doesn't fit the campaign and its supporters partisan narrative.

(I know you cannot respond to this in this thread; but maybe, that's for the better. It will give you an opportunity to read these words and self-reflect, without the burden of having to think up a reply.

If I may, here are some points to reflect upon:

1) Why would Black people react so strongly to having their observations labelled, "race-baiting"?

2) Why would you think that a Black person's observation that a campaign event at a HBCU, within walking distance of 3 other HBCUs, in a majority Black city, was made for partisan purposes?

3) Isn't your arguing against that Black person's observation, in itself, being done for partisan purposes?

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
53. So, who is making unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

of a particular group of people?

And how can you prove they are unfair?

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
63. I don't want to call anyone person out as it is against our code of conduct here.... having said
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:26 PM
Feb 2016

that... I thought the assertion that there weren't black folks there was an attempt to divide white and black progressive brothers and sisters

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
67. You called out the OP as race-baiting.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

It seems like you should substantiate your charge.

The point of the OP was not that there weren't black folks, but that there appeared to be very few, percentage-wise, considering the rally was held at a historically black college. That is an observation, not race-baiting.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
75. semantics... the discussions point was that it was a predominately white audience and that white
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

people were bused in and black people particularly students boycotted

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
86. It says it right in the OP... the crowd was predominately white... and accused the Sanders campaign
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

of trying to bamboozal everyone...

then further in the discussion..a list of tweets is giving ...that appear to show tweets from students some of which claim to boycott...

and multiple times in the discussion there are claims made that white people were bused in.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
98. I think FrenchieCat is right about this.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:03 AM
Feb 2016

Say what you may, this was an opportunity for Sanders to prove black millennials love him to pieces. We all know that it's just not true at this point.

I spent half an hour studying every photo and video that was posted of Bernie’s Morehouse rally by attendees, from various angles and in various sections. There were a few television camera-friendly clusters of black students, as campaigns often tend to do when their rallies are minority-challenged; for instance Donald Trump’s campaign routinely asks its handful of black attendees to sit directly behind him. But as you can see for yourself by doing a Twitter multimedia search, the few clusters of black youths at Bernie’s rally were not indicative of the faces in the rest of the arena.

No more than thirty percent of the attendees at Bernie’s Morehouse rally were black. Moreover, about half of them were female. But Morehouse College is 98.3% black and 99.8% male. So no more than fifteen percent of the attendees at the Morehouse rally could have been Morehouse students. In other words, around four thousand white kids appeared out of thin air at an all-black school, in a mostly black neighborhood, in a majority black city. Did they fall out of the sky?
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-holds-mostly-white-rally-at-all-black-college/23858/

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
100. I'd have to put in more in the area of 40 to 45% Black... which isn't predominately
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

pre·dom·i·nant·ly
prəˈdämənən(t)lē/
adverb
mainly; for the most part.
"it is predominantly a coastal bird"
synonyms: mainly, mostly, for the most part, chiefly, principally, primarily, predominately, in the main, on the whole, largely, by and large, typically, generally, usually


Mostly it's the twitters and the Bamboozling from the OP that rubbed me the wrong way

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
102. Why should the truth rub you the wrong way?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:16 AM
Feb 2016

This is not a rhetorical question.

Even at 40 to 45% black is a dismal figure at an all black male college with around 3 to 4 more HBCUs in the area. I was expecting as many of us where, based on feeling the bern people, at least photos awashed with black millennials.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
107. The point that the OP made that Bernie's campaign was trying to bamboozle people that is what rubbed
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

me the wrong way... I for one was happy to see a diverse crowd being active together in the political process...

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
108. I didn't see the words "Bernie's campaign" in the OP
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:36 AM
Feb 2016

The claim that we've been hearing for weeks from Feel the Bern people and the media is that his campaign is racking up all millennials, surprise-surpise, even black ones.

But the campaign did say he'd overcome that because to get to know him will garner more black voters. So far not true.

I'd say the bamboozling is the other way around.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
109. oh ok.. our object conversation seems to have ended... think I'll put on some Trane and smoke this
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

thing .. peace

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
110. Smart thinking. When your argument can go no further
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:42 AM
Feb 2016

than trying to rewrite a narrative the fanatics have been pushing, the best thing to do will be for you to stop and bow out.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
111. no ...that is wrong.. it just became clear to me that your support for hillary was clouding your
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

ability to be objective... take care

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
114. OK. Let's deflect to Hillary and forget about
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

your narrative of black millenials feeling the bern or constructing an answer to an OP in your mind Hillary is driving you crazy when nothing about her came up. Stay focused and follow your own objectivity advice and end the conversation, as you so desire

MADem

(135,425 posts)
131. You need to stop using that "Bamboozling" word.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:36 AM
Feb 2016

Or do you need to look THAT one up, too?

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch! You are calling the OP a liar, a cheat, a hoodwinker, and you are using a word that has loaded overtones. Or are you completely forgetting the 08 election?

YOUR WORDS: Mostly it's the twitters and the Bamboozling from the OP that rubbed me the wrong way


Quit while you're behind.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
153. Whoa! I had to thank you for watching
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:26 AM
Feb 2016

in your link!



I seriously and most humbly for calling that one after the scenario being fed of getting to know Sanders means getting more AA votes. And now the story is about diversity NOT all our young ones feeling the bern.

What kind of a campaign is this???
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
82. I'm going to lay this out as clear as possible for you:
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Feb 2016

You came into a protected group for African American DUers and joined a discussion about a rally at an HBCU, immediately using a term most frequently used as a dog whistle by racist white people.

When you were called out on this, you doubled- and tripled-down and insultingly tried to make yourself the victim.

My advice to you would be to stop now, before a host steps in and decides to do it for you.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
104. I'm sorry you feel that way.. from my perspective it was others in this group that were using
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
Feb 2016

racial dog whistle terms. It sucks that you want to shut down communication on these crucial issues of race... I'm willing to share our struggles and find common ground where we can...

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
119. "race baiting" accusations leveled at POC for merely discussing race are pretty messed up.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:03 AM
Feb 2016

the discussion here is really about their presence being exaggerated for PR gains. that has nothing to do with "baiting".
you really should know better.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
178. It's amazing on the lack of self-awareness of some ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:25 AM
Feb 2016

The hand full of "See Black Millennials feeling the bern" are non-partisan, fact-stating; whereas, an OP noting the observable predominant whiteness of a political event held by a candidate, struggling to attract Black support (and is, openly, pinning its hopes on pealing off one segment of the Black electorate) at a HBCU, within walking distance of 3 other HBCUs, in a majority Black city, is partisan "race-baiting".

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
195. Privilege so taken for granted that he couldn't
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Feb 2016

EVEN understand the point of the OP. I'll never stop being amazed at the depth of entitlement.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
175. You may first want to recognize that you are part of the problem
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:52 AM
Feb 2016

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instead of assuming you are part of the resolution. You are the definition of a Bernie Bro, right down to the throwing out of "race baiting" bc of the obvious fact that your candidate still isn't drawing the minority vote.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
123. Do you even understand the first thing about Morehouse?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:23 AM
Feb 2016

People WERE bussed in--no women attend that school, for starters, and the school's student body consists entirely of black men. There may be "a" white student or two admitted, but the student body is black, the culture of the school is black, and the school is famous for this.

The best you can say about those pictures is that there's a load of salt up in that pepper. And since people have posted their "busing" video online, that horse has left the barn, too.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
150. "The best you can say about those pictures is that there's a load of salt up in that pepper!"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:05 AM
Feb 2016

This thread is killing me!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
68. The OP didn't say there weren't Black folks there ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

the OP questioned:

Why was Bernie Sander's audience at Morehouse College, an HBCU, predominantly White?


That's not an attempt to divide white and black progressive brothers and sisters, it is: 1) Pointing out that fallaciousness of the "Black Millennials are berning" narrative; and, 2) Pointing out the continuing lack of diversity among Sanders' supporters.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
71. again argumentative... the idea that was put out by the OP was that there weren't many black people
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:36 PM
Feb 2016

there.. and that is just false.. and was an attempt to gain political advantage for Hillary along a racial lines

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
76. Who brought race into it ? Falsely I might add... in order to gain political advantage for Hillary
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
Feb 2016

am I missing something

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
85. You are missing everything, starting with the OP. The issue of race is entirely valid.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie is seeking minority votes at the probably the most famous historically black college in the country. He is trying to appeal to black voters by going to a black audience. No problem with that.

But, it is interesting that the crowd at this epicenter of black collegiate life is not predominately black. That is the point of the OP.

This is an observation. This is not about seeking advantage for Hillary, which appears to be your personal projection, but about Bernie's campaign strategy and the reaction to it by potential black voters.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
89. But my point is that it isn't true that it was predominately white... many other posters put larger
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:50 PM
Feb 2016

view pictures in posts...that show a very diverse crowd

also in the OP they infer that Bernie's campaign is trying to bamboozle you/us

trying to gain political points for hillary

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
91. The OP referenced twitter feeds, but ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

didn't claim agreement with all the comments in those feeds

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
94. Race is being discussed everywhere right now, if you hadn't noticed....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:56 PM
Feb 2016

and it has always been the case in this particular forum that we do just this...so nothing new to see here in particular,
so perhaps it is you reading something here, when you might normally not read anything at all here....

I stay out of the GDP forum, because it looks like a High school car wreck, IMO
and feel that Bernie supporters can have at it to do whatever it is they do there....

But please note that I was directing my op to other Black folks who normally post in this forum...
and although I don't think there is anything wrong with those who visit to make comments,
to drop by and ask me whether I know the definition of Race Baiting is kinda of being a bit negative
while in someone else's house, IMO.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
96. I love talking race... I love sharing our struggles. But let's be honest .. what was the goal of
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

your original post ? I am going to go read it again...just to be sure i am not confused about things..

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
124. Hopefully after smoking your thing
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:26 AM
Feb 2016

& listening to Trane you'll get a good sleep & read the thread with a pair of fresh eyes. And comprehend that you misinterpreted the original post, accused people here of things they didn't do, used the term 'race baiting' in a reactionary manner, contradicted yourself numerous times, missed some easy layups, disrespected others while claiming peace & love and stank up the thread with slack game.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
130. Thanks for your opinion..
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

I do not think I misinterpreted the OP.. it was quite obvious what the agenda was...

I understand the heat that comes along with the race baiting term.. my apologies... I could have used a different term to describe what I thought was happening.

Can't find a contradiction of mine

Wasn't trying to make any layups.. was speaking from the heart

I certainly didn't mean to disrespect anyone.. I know that folks here didn't agree with me.. and certainly didn't agree with the term I used to describe what I was seeing.. but I didn't say anything that was disrespectful.. you may not agree but not disrespectful

How bout the shade your throwing at me .. is that disrespectful.. stank and slack.. come on now...

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
135. 'Race-baiting' is disrespectful when used in the way you used it.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:44 AM
Feb 2016

I don't agree with your view that it was quite obvious what the agenda was. In fact I don't agree that was what you still insist it is about. Everything isn't about the primaries or what candidate you do or don't support. Many issues existed long before this primary and will exist long after. They are often discussed in this group. There's tons of good reading here. You may want to read other threads here some time. Hope you enjoy a good night's sleep.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
174. Aloha Frenchie~ I just read your Tweet on "race baiting"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:34 AM
Feb 2016
FrenchieCat ?@FrenchieCat · 7h7 hours ago
@trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse , was called a race baiter for inquiring as to why there weren't more Black men at this rally!

Thank you so much for calling this out. I think they accuse us of "race baiting".. and I've been accused of it, too, when I stood up for #BlackLivesMatters Activists, because they want to deflect and shut down the discussion. It's one of their go to buzz phrases

Shhhh.. Not suppose to ask "why there weren't more Black men at this rally". See how that works?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
193. Sincerity...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

"am I missing something..."

Sincerity in both your dialogue and your intent... from what it appears.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
83. Well ... that's one way to look at it ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Feb 2016

another way to view it is 1) Pointing out that fallaciousness of the "Black Millennials are berning" narrative; and, 2) Pointing out the continuing lack of diversity among Sanders' supporters.

And, there is legitimate basis for the question, given the venue - a predominately Black University within walking distance of three other predominately Black University, in a predominately Black city.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. OMG, there has been so much conversation about this!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:23 PM
Feb 2016

Those people were visitors to the land of the maroon and white!

His college plan doesn't do a damn thing for HBCU students, either....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/16/bernie-sanders-support-black-colleges-questioned/80465036/

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
103. LOL!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

I see a whole heap of white folks . . .

Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it is what it is.


guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
32. You might want to change your equipment.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

Your claim is totally unsupported by the actual evidence.

Please feel free to try again tomorrow.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
45. Look at the two videos in FrenchieCat's original post.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

It's obvious which folks in this thread are lying and which aren't. Hint: it ain't FrenchieCat.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
198. I stand by my statement.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016

The first proof is a quick scan of heads representing a small sector of the audience.

The second, even shorter bit of proof consists almost exclusively of one woman's hair.

This reminds me of the video purporting to show space vehicles, or Sasquatch.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
42. Back of the auditorium apparently!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:58 PM
Feb 2016

Interesting that there were some "pockets" of Black folks at an Historically Black campus, where there are also 3 or 4 other HBCU colleges nearby......

But of course, I'm race baiting, according to one in thread for asking about the audience based on videos, pics, and comments made on twitter....

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
66. Oh good grief, get glasses. The photos YOU put up right above this
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

are packed with Black audience members! Do you not have zoom capability on your device? Because there is a higher percentage of Blacks in the audience than the percent if Blacks in SC, I would have thought Clinton supporters actually would be accusing his campaign of the reverse: packing the audience with Blacks.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
70. but the videos originally posted were not, and I would not say packed ....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

maybe 50-50, but hard to tell.

At a black college one might expect a different percentage.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
74. Okay, that is more reasonable: to expect more than were there.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:39 PM
Feb 2016

In any case, the percentage in attendance is higher than the percentage in the state.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
81. It's not about the entire state...vs. this rally.....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:45 PM
Feb 2016

it is about the fact that this is a predominantly Black campus,
so what would be expected would be a predominantly Black audience...
not a "diverse" 50/50 or 60%(white)/40% (Black)....
Although I see more like 65%/35% with the lesser number being Black folks.



JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
99. Are you suggesting that all Blacks on that campus are a homogenous group
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:03 AM
Feb 2016

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that all should think alike and have shown up en masse to support Sanders? No one should take any ones vote or presence for granted. From the photos I've seen, it looks about 55% Black attendees. The state is 31.5% Black. So, 55% is a surprising amount to me of Blacks in attendence and probably surprising to most people, as the Clinton campaign has said they had the lock on the Black vote; that Blacks are their firewall. I don't think the Clinton campaign is happy about the makeup of this audience, that's for sure.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
106. I don't see 55% Back attendee.....
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:25 AM
Feb 2016

But if you think so. “Who I'm gonna believe, you or my lying eyes?”

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
143. thats silly
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:57 AM
Feb 2016

Or do you think white people are afraid to travel to a black college????

such desperateness from clintonites

MADem

(135,425 posts)
134. Morehouse is a BLACK college, and a MALE college.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:43 AM
Feb 2016

Anyone who isn't black and male in those images was bussed in. YOU get glasses, and deal with reality.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
154. Reading is your friend. The premise was the attendees were not predominantly
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:29 AM
Feb 2016

Black. I disagree with the premise based on photos posted in this thread. Bussed? No Black women in the area? Are you for real? You don't appear to be familiar with that area of Atlanta. I visted the area about 10 years ago. Morehouse is just one of about 4 predominantly Black colleges all within blocks of each other. The area is a big campus called the U. Center. Spelman, a college for Black women is right down the street, as is Morris Brown College. The Tech Center is a bit farther, but still in walking distance. Bussed? Ridiculous!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
158. It's called the AU Center, not U Center. And GA Tech is not in walking distance of the AU Center
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:42 AM
Feb 2016

There is nothing even remotely predominantly white within walking distance of the AU center.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
159. My friends there just call it the U Center. And you can
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:59 AM
Feb 2016

walk from the Tech Center-it's a longish walk, like I said, but it's doable.

Not going to address what I was attacked on, hmm. No women in the area? The Black women were bussed in? And what is this with the emphasis on busses? There is such a thing as cars. Whites living in Atlanta can't hop in their car and go see the presidential candidate of their choice now?

This thread is a real thing of beauty.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
160. The point is that in black assed Atlanta and even blacker Morehouse College more than half the crowd
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:05 AM
Feb 2016

there was white. I put it at 60% a few days ago and many others are saying the same as this OP attests.

That CLEARLY upsets you as you felt compelled to race in here with your "corrections." And it's not my job to address what you were "attacked" for. I address what I choose.

And whoever your friends are, they know nothing about the AU Center -- no one has ever called it anything else -- and or Atlanta if they think that GA Tech is in walking distance.

Your hostility is unnecessary and unwelcome in this forum. If you were hostile over something important/interesting that would probably be an entirely different matter altogether.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
161. We disagree on % per photos shown. And don't conjecture about my reasons
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:22 AM
Feb 2016

or motives for doing what I do. Ask me, or not, if you're not so inclined.

I know, I know. We all must be exactly the same, abbreviate things exactly the same, be homogenous. Got it. We drove in this area. My memory is it is a walkable distance. We can disagree on that, though, because what is walkable to one person may not be to another, so there you go.

Again, you are misreading me...no hostility, I am allowed to disagree, and have done so on several points. I haven't changed my mind on any of those points, but I'll give you the last word now...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
162. No one cares if you've changed your mind. But as I said, your hostility is unnecessary
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:24 AM
Feb 2016

Hopefully you won't return to this thread.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
200. Why is this point so hard for some to get?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

My white person brain sees it clearly and has been at some of the, umm, less agreeable guests to this forum.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
166. Well, I call B.S. on you and your dandy friends...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:49 AM
Feb 2016

NO ONE calls it "the U Center" (You maybe thinking of "The U" i.e. University of Miami...in Florida)

It's the "AU Center" ... or "AUC" ...

And you seem intent on missing the point of the OP...One would have expected to see more Morehouse students - which happen to be AA Males, but many pictures, videos and folks WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE did not see as many as one would think.

This is the point of the thread, but you and your friends come in heavy handed and butt-hurt that this interpretation of imagery seems obvious to many that the crowd wasn't "predominantly" ("Mainly"; "Mostly", "Largely", "Chiefly"; "Primarily&quot Black.

Get over it, and move on, please. You are embarrassing yourselves.

I'm happy that Bernie visited my Alma Mater and spoke at a venue that has my name on the wall (you can almost see it in the pictures posted!). My friends who were there said the event was a positive one, but that they had hoped that more students of color from the surrounding schools (including Spelman, CAU, Morehouse Med School, ITC, GA State, GA Tech) were in attendance.

Please remember where you are, since truly, your responses have been a "real thing of beauty".

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
179. LOL ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:44 AM
Feb 2016
NO ONE calls it "the U Center" (You maybe thinking of "The U" i.e. University of Miami...in Florida) It's the "AU Center" ... or "AUC" ...


To be fair ... people with NO association to, or know of Morehouse (except that it exists ... and is an HBCU, e.g., the always more knowing "My friends&quot , might.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
202. Oh Lord, you're a Morehouse Man on top of everything else??!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

I think we could make this thing happen.

Just dump our respective spouses and move to the same continent and we can make this HAPPEN!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
204. You are such a good egg. I am so glad that you are posting
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016


You don't have nearly as much "baggage" around here as the rest of us. Not that that will make a bit of difference to our "allies" out there who insult the hell out of us with one hand and then demand our votes with the other.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
187. No--that was not the premise at all, and you might want to do
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

some of that reading you're snarkily telling me to do in a protected group.

This is the thread title, and there's no "not predominantly black" in there:

Why was Bernie Sander's audience at Morehouse College, an HBCU, predominantly White?



If you know Morehouse--and you don't, I can tell--you would be hard put to find a white face within the confines of that campus and the surrounding environs on a given day if you were given a prize for so doing. I've seen the videos, and the MOREHOUSE MEN (it's a men's school, you see) were in the very distinct minority at that event. They basically loaned their school out for a photo op. That half-filled venue (and it was poorly attended, given the size of the school, and the capacity of the coliseum -- which was half filled) looked like someone knocked over the salt - n- peppa shakers. Had that audience been representative of the campus, you'd have not seen women there, never mind all those white women (were they from Spellman--LOL?) and you would not have seen ANY white people, save Bernie and his wife and most of his staff.

Even the BLACK students in that crowd were bused in--unless you're going to insist that Savannah" is "next door," too (a four hour bus ride "next door&quot ....smh!!!

http://www.tigersroar.com/news/article_9b053a06-d67f-11e5-8825-5713d0b2ba1d.html


Savannah State University (SSU) students traveled to Morehouse College in Atlanta Tuesday night for the ‘Feel the Bern Tour’. In hopes of gaining more minority votes Senator Bernie Sanders launched the tour to travel to 8 historically black colleges and universities.
After about a four hour bus ride the tour bus arrived on Morehouse campus, both anxious and exhausted students prepared to see Sen. Bernie Sanders.
There were a number of vivacious speakers and supporters of Sen. Sanders who graced the stage and shared their personal experiences and praises of the senator. Some of the speakers included actress Jasmine Guy and rapper Killer Mike.



Big finish:

No more than thirty percent of the attendees at Bernie’s Morehouse rally were black. Moreover, about half of them were female. But Morehouse College is 98.3% black and 99.8% male. So no more than fifteen percent of the attendees at the Morehouse rally could have been Morehouse students. In other words, around four thousand white kids appeared out of thin air at an all-black school, in a mostly black neighborhood, in a majority black city. Did they fall out of the sky?

Who are these four thousand white kids? Where did they come from? It’s fair to ask if they were bused in from elsewhere, and if they’re the same white kids who keep appearing at Bernie’s supposedly black-centric rallies across the south. These are the questions that every news outlet in the country should be asking today. In fact the media asked those same questions when Trump was holding curiously large and mostly white rallies in southern black towns. But Bernie continues to get a free pass, because his campaign is still too ratings-friendly for the media to want to poke the obvious holes in it just yet.


http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-holds-mostly-white-rally-at-all-black-college/23858/

Response to MADem (Reply #134)

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
145. i did.. thats what makes it so funny.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:00 AM
Feb 2016

The croud is predominently black as anyone with eyes and zoom can see.

whats really great is to see how many white people travelled to this black college to hear bernie speak...

very uplifting photo

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
84. This is crazy. Those black Millennials really packed that house
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016
My Gawd, he can't pack a black college with the black millennials who feel the Bern.
Wow, this is sad. But yeah, diversity it means the same thing I'm finding out.
 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
97. Morehouse College Students Give Energetic Performance at Bernie Sanders Rally
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders visited Morehouse College in Atlanta, Georgia, on Tuesday night and his visit was kicked off by an impromptu, energetic performance by some very enthusiastic members of the Omega Psi Phi fraternity.

Not only were the students' kicks as high as their energy, but they performed in suits!

The video of the electrifying performance has gone viral.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/morehouse-college-students-give-energetic-performance-bernie-sanders/story?id=37007830

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
105. Well we know the media...don't we?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:24 AM
Feb 2016

Here's one.....
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-holds-mostly-white-rally-at-all-black-college/23858/

Also, I do follow trueblacknews on Tweeter....
But guess they aren't to be trusted right? Better to go with Disney Corporation, right?

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
113. What a fun thread!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:18 AM
Feb 2016

The swarm descends, "It is a false lie! HILLARY!!! (*shakes fist at sky*) I don't see color! I see diverse brothers and sisters, all coming together in the struggle for a New World. I'm willing to share our struggle and find common ground, and now this. How dare you accuse Bernie of attracting more white people than other kinds, disgraceful, be ashamed! (*shakes fist at sky-Hillary again*) Wait, I DO see color. There are many black persons at this event, but oh, you think they are homogeneous and should all think and act the same. You people brought up skin color first, anyway, with your racist dog whistles. I cannot help that I heard the whistle and came mindlessly bounding into the AA group to correct the ignorance and deceit of you Hillary operatives. Race-baiters! Here, let me get a dictionary for you. Look, it's right there. You people are the ones wanting to shut down communication on these crucial issues of race, not me."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
137. LOL!!!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:49 AM
Feb 2016

It reminds me of the blind certainty of George Bush, who bumbled into Iraq, not realizing there were two flavors of Muslim, and one group had oppressed and brutalized the other for eons, and there was a load of resentment, anger, hatred and fury about to be unleashed....and he was completely clueless to what was about to occur.

"They'll greet us as liberators!" LOL!!

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
148. I saw an Iraq War documentary yesterday
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:04 AM
Feb 2016

There was a part about Bush's Iraq team trying to get the new government set up and deciding on a new plan and doing all these negotiations. They gathered for what was to be a meeting with Bush one morning only to find that he had secretly flown to Iraq the night before. There he was on the monitor paling around with Iraq gov. types and everybody did a face palm because Bush just ruined their plan. Completely clueless, he'd done the exact opposite thing he should've. His little joke on his team, heh heh heh.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
129. A couple of tweets found @The Obama Diary, Frenchie.. Mahalo~
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:33 AM
Feb 2016
[/img]
[img][/img] TrueBlackNews ?@trueblacknews
A @BernieSanders rally at @Morehouse. Black students ignore event, White Supporters bused in #blacklivesmatter
8:28 PM - 16 Feb 2016
164 164 Retweets 117 117 likes

Andre Forbes ?@andref1989
@trueblacknews @BernieSanders @Morehouse @WhiskeyInSpace I've never seen that many non- black people in the west end in my 4 years there 😂
3:56 AM - 17 Feb 2016
15 15 Retweets 16 16 likes

http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/17/chat-away-775/

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
132. Didn't you know #Berniesoblack? Seriously, I think these SAME "crowds" follow him from city to...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:40 AM
Feb 2016

city like the Grateful Dead. I won't say what they call them, but you know, right? This charade will come to a close some time in May. What this tells me is that the Morehouse thing was a charade from start to finish, possibly because there wasn't enough interest from the student body? But it helps create a certain "illusion", if you know what I mean.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
144. I made that same observation the day of the Morehouse event
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1254524

Half the Twitter'ers in your second link are asking the exact same questions that both of us have asked.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
157. Is it possible you think that if Sanders didn't fill that stadium (or whatever it is)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:41 AM
Feb 2016

the media wouldn't make note of it? Do you really think if the crowd was mostly, or even largely, white Chris Matthews and Todd wouldn't make sure to mention it? Wouldn't it be the lead story on every news commentary for days?

Can you honestly say that the newsmedia, that has been in the tank for Clinton from day one, wouldn't make a big deal out of this?

I'm really surprised that anyone who's been paying attention to what is going on would fail to see that.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
186. Yes, I do think the media would not necessarily take note.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

It is quite clear from the pictures up thread that the stadium is not close to full. It is quite clear that there are a high percentage of whites.

What commentators chose to focus on reflects their own interests, and this may well not be their interest.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
164. Because Most of his Supporters are White
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:36 AM
Feb 2016

what Sanders needed to do to try to get more minority support was have smaller events in minority areas by himself. this would have done a lot more to get him support than appearances with Cornel West and Killer Mike.

this is what Clinton did this time around and it's one reason she did much better in Iowa compared to last time.

Sanders needed to do the same when it came to minority voters. part of the reason is it would have helped him learn from them also. the same way Clinton learned by running for Senate from NY and coming in contact with such a diverse group of people. Candidates learn from voters through small groups.

some of the best moments in campaigns are the smaller events. these also get more dedicated supporters who are very much needed to win on the ground.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
167. Right on. I was thinking along the same lines.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:03 AM
Feb 2016

I went to watch a bit of his speech after reading the OP and some tweets. What I read was A Lot of Nina Turner was great, Killer Mike was great, some other guy was great from I think white posters. But the most striking to me was the inordinate amount of posting of Omega Psi Phi's performance. But not much praise of Sanders' speech, as his support of HBCUs comes under scrutiny.

"some of the best moments in campaigns are the smaller events. these also get more dedicated supporters who are very much needed to win on the ground."

I hope someone is reading your advice.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
185. Yep. Politicians meet the 'influencers' at smaller events.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:29 AM
Feb 2016

Quiet people who know the local power structure and ground game.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
165. What's baffling is why the campaign did not
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:48 AM
Feb 2016

bus in a bunch of black millenials if interest at Morehouse and surrounding HBCUs was low. There must be enough of our kids who like him to fill the auditorium. His campaign makes less and less sense to me every day.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
194. Thanks for that!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016

It makes sense though I want to stick with reality, logical reasons, even innovative ones but only the head-scratching baffling kept coming up, smh.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
176. It's hard to tell from behind...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:08 AM
Feb 2016

A few people are obviously white. But people who have hats on and you can't see any face or skin are pretty hard to identify by race. Also, I've know black people who have very light skin. I've known black people who have straight hair, either naturally or chemically. There a few people I see that look like they might be black but I don't know.

See the light skinned guy in the white hat in the back. He might be black. Also the heavy woman with the purple shirt and longish, straight black hair. The two black guys in the back away from the crowd. I could go on.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
181. On another note ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:03 AM
Feb 2016

another Martyr for Sanders is born!

I wonder if this is some form of Board initiation ... "You have done well young bern feeler ... You have, but, one test remaining ... You are to venture into the AA Group and call someone there a race-baiter! Should you meet this challenge, you will truly be a member of our noble clan!"

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
182. That *would* explain a whole lot!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:28 AM
Feb 2016
I wonder if this is some form of Board initiation ...

This actually makes more sense than some of the visiting folks who refuse to understand the word, "predominate".

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