****African-American Group****** sincere question about Senator Sanders

[steve2470]

Group hosts, if you feel this is not appropriate, I will gladly self-delete. I'm not trying to be divisive or disruptive. I'm just taking the temperature, so to speak.

Does Senator Sanders have any prayer of reaching or exceeding 50% support in the AA community ? I'm NOT asking for a debate on Senator Sanders, only what African-Americans are seeing in their community and amongst their friends and colleagues.

I am 100% fine with Secretary Clinton for the Dem nominee. As I said, I'm simply taking the temperature. Thank you in advance.

Steve

[JustAnotherGen]

1. I don't think he will

Self Suffiency - beyond just economics are a prized quality particularly in a segment of the black community that CAN vote - black women.

I'm going to post something (op) from For Harriet which will explain it better . . . But if it is not earned its not as respected in the community.

We aren't easy to save.

BTW - you aren't just a Sanders supporter - when it's Tamir, when it's DWB, when it's environmental racism etc etc you are here.

[steve2470]

2. yes, I support the AA community 100% in all ways

I keep trying to increase my understanding, so thanks all of you for being patient!

[KeepItReal]

3. Yes, it is possible.

The African-American vote is already split.

Sanders got 34% of the Non-White vote in Iowa. (AA's 3% of exit poll totals)

Sanders got 50% of the Non-white vote in New Hampshire. (AA's 2% of exit poll totals)

Wish the polls were better broken out by race, but the Non-White vote should indicate no segment is a monolith in support of either candidate.

[JustAnotherGen]

4. I don't know a single black Sanders supporter IRL

Clinton - heavily Clinton.

[KeepItReal]

5. Well that's not very scientific, now, is it?

We are out here.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. Nope

But I'm in NJ and the majority are in NY, NJ, GA, and MD. A few in Ohio.

Across economic lines and life style - Clinton.

The serious jumps were from O'Malley to Clinton and they tend to be voting on their Econmic interests.

But I'm of the mindset - then we might as well be voting for the Republicans.


Go back to what our grandparents did and vote on financial interests - there's a tremendous amount of risk in that.

[KeepItReal]

7. I'll keep checking exit polls to see how we actually vote.

It will be fascinating to see.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. Yes it will

Lots of Delegates in NY, NJ - and lots of black people. We won't have a true analysis or view until you get into the North East big states and great lakes.

[KeepItReal]

10. I'm a Southerner. SC will be a big test.

[JustAnotherGen]

11. Clinton can't be expected to drop out though

Next Sunday if she falters in NV and SC.

Ijust hope the Sanders supporters can respect that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

12. Agreed. I'm in MD with ties to NJ and NY. I was raised in GA.

My brother is supporting Sanders but is being turned off by his supporters, just as I am. When we talked about this, he said that Sanders and his supporters seem to be using class to obscure racism. It's interesting that we seem to be on the same wavelength. My entire family in GA are for Clinton. My friends in NY and NJ are for Clinton. Same story: they're not convinced that Sanders can win, and they don't like the fact that he has bashed the president.

[comradebillyboy]

9. You always provide an interesting and enlightening perspective.

Thanks, I learn a lot visiting here.

[Number23]

13. And you consider 34% and losing by 25% in a state like Iowa... something to be happy about??

Really?

[Chitown Kev]

15. The interesting thing about Clinton's Iowa numbers

is that I don't think they were all that strong even though they helped her over the hump in a very tight race.

[Number23]

16. Neither one of them had strong numbers in Iowa and NH was even worse

Dem voter turnout has been embarrassingly low at both of the primaries that have been held so far. Sanders' much heralded "revolution" is contingent on voter turnout and so far, it looks like the revolution ain't coming no time soon.

[JRLeft]

14. It's possible but unlikely.

[monicaangela]

17. Statistically

I can't say if Bernie Sanders will get 50% of the AA vote during this primary. I can only say that I am active in my community and the majority of people I know, AA, Latino, and White are for Bernie Sanders. Maybe it is because many of the people I associate with have either been close friends of mine or friends of people I know. We tend to discuss issues often during times when we get together to discuss political issues, family issues, etc. In the beginning I noticed that some had the same attitude that we all had when President Obama ran. We hoped and prayed he would win, but didn't really feel deep down he had a chance...that didn't stop us from working for him during that campaign, and it won't stop us from working for Bernie Sanders. We, my friends and I and many others who have changed their minds and joined us since we began to believe Bernie had a chance to beat Clinton have noticed the numbers grow exponentially. I live in Ohio, and we were very happy when Nina Turner who was one of our State Senators to change her support from Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders. At political rallies that I have attended I notice many people (AA's included) have decided to take another look at Bernie Sanders. So, to make a long story a bit shorter, although I have no idea statistically if 50% of the AA community will back Bernie Sanders, I do believe they will be doing themselves a favor if they do. If Bernie doesn't win, I will still be a democrat, and will hope for the best with Hillary Clinton as the nominee however I truly do not believe she is the better choice of the two of them.