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Related: About this forumTim Wise on Trayvon Martin
and as usual, it is an excellent, thought-provoking, desperately needed read.
'No Innocence Left to Kill: Racism, Injustice and Explaining America to My Daughter'
http://www.timwise.org/2013/07/no-innocence-left-to-kill-racism-injustice-and-explaining-america-to-my-daughter/
...Those who deny the racial angle to the killing of Trayvon Martin can only do so by a willful ignorance, a carefully cultivated denial of every logical, obvious piece of evidence before them, and by erasing from their minds if indeed they ever had anything in there to erase the entire history of American criminal justice, the criminal suspicion regularly attached to black men, and the inevitable results whenever black men pay for these suspicions with their lives. They must choose to leave the dots unconnected between, for instance, Martin on the one hand, and then on the other, Amadou Diallo or Sean Bell or Patrick Dorismond, or any of a number of other black men whose names were I to list them would take up page after page, and whose names wouldnt mean shit to most white people even if I did list them, and that is the problem.
Oh sure, Ive heard it all before. George Zimmerman didnt follow Trayvon Martin because Martin was black; he followed him because he thought he might be a criminal. Yes precious, I get that. But what you dont get and by not getting it while still managing to somehow hold down a job and feed yourself, scare the shit out of me is far more important. Namely, if the presumption of criminality that Zimmerman attached to Martin was so attached because the latter was black and would not have been similarly attached to him had he been white then the charge of racial bias and profiling is entirely appropriate.
...This is why it matters that George Zimmerman justified his following of Martin because as he put it, these fucking punks always get away. In other words, Zimmerman saw Martin as just another fucking punk up to no good, similar to those who had committed previous break-ins in the community. But why? What behavior did Martin display that would have suggested he was criminally inclined? Zimmermans team could produce nothing to indicate anything particularly suspicious about Martins actions that night. According to Zimmerman, Martin was walking in the rain, looking around, or looking around at the houses. But not looking in windows, or jiggling doorknobs or porch screens, or anything that might have suggested a possible burglar. At no point was any evidence presented by the defense to justify their clients suspicions. All we know is that Zimmerman saw Martin and concluded that he was just like those other criminals. And to the extent there was nothing in Martins actions talking on the telephone and walking slowly home from the store that would have indicated he was another of those fucking punks, the only possible explanation as to why George Zimmerman would have seen him that way is because Martin, as a young black male was presumed to be a likely criminal, and for no other reason, ultimately, but color."
sigh
Skittles
(153,193 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And I truly hope that we see successful action from the federal government and/or civil suits against Zimmerman, the homeowners association, the state of Florida, and anywhere else we can find it.
Such a beautiful young life, supposedly with all the benefits and opportunities available to young Americans, cut down in his prime for the color of his skin and for wearing a hoodie.
fuck.
Number23
(24,544 posts)really interesting.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I don't know the details but he was working for them and unless they had a do not carry a firearm policy, then they could be held responsible for having hired him without adequate safeguards.
I can see them suing him if they get sued, depending upon the charges and outcome of any civil suits.
They both share blame.
damn.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)by being armed. But they will claim that he was not acting in any official capacity.
Should be interesting to see what will happen w/ this action on behalf of the parents....and you can bet, this option has been on the table regardless of the outcome of the criminal trial.
PsychGrad
(239 posts)that Zimmerman was not "on duty" that night. He was simply headed out to the grocery store, saw Trayvon, and took it upon himself to go "on duty" from that point forward.
I also understood that Zimmerman was appointed the "leader" of the group, and was supposed to assign shifts and such to neighbors, but never did - wanting to do it entirely on his own. He apparently made something like 47 calls to the police reporting "suspicious" behavior or people in the neighborhood. It would be REALLY interesting to see how many of those calls were on white people, or hispanic people, or just in general, "not black" people. Eh?
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)ms liberty
(8,599 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)has already been sued and settled with the Martin family. The family probably won't get much. That association has to be broke.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)the HOA has insurance that will not only defend them but pay any valid claim.
PsychGrad
(239 posts)That they made a deal and settled outside of court. I didn't hear any details about it at all. Just that they agreed to not go to court.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)sheshe2
(83,925 posts)From you link
Thank you Number 23.
America weeps.
JI7
(89,271 posts)happened. Tim Wise is right. we can talk about whether prosecution should have brought this or that up. but it wouldn't have mattered. only thing that would have made jury convict is if Trayvon was not black.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023264778
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)equals "the other".