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Number23

(24,544 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:31 PM Jul 2013

Tim Wise on Trayvon Martin

and as usual, it is an excellent, thought-provoking, desperately needed read.

'No Innocence Left to Kill: Racism, Injustice and Explaining America to My Daughter'
http://www.timwise.org/2013/07/no-innocence-left-to-kill-racism-injustice-and-explaining-america-to-my-daughter/

..Last night, and I am writing it down so that I will not forget — because I already know she will not — my oldest daughter, who attained the age of 12 only eleven days ago, became an American. Not in the legal sense. She was already that, born here, and — as a white child in a nation set up for people just like her — fully entitled to all the rights and privileges thereof, without much question or drama. But now she is American in the fullest and most horrible sense of that word, by which I mean she has been truly introduced to the workings of the system of which she is both a part, and, at the same time, merely an inheritor. A system that fails — with a near-unanimity almost incomprehensible to behold — to render justice to black peoples, the family of Trayvon Martin being only the latest battered by the machinations of American justice, but with all certainty not the last.

...Those who deny the racial angle to the killing of Trayvon Martin can only do so by a willful ignorance, a carefully cultivated denial of every logical, obvious piece of evidence before them, and by erasing from their minds — if indeed they ever had anything in there to erase — the entire history of American criminal justice, the criminal suspicion regularly attached to black men, and the inevitable results whenever black men pay for these suspicions with their lives. They must choose to leave the dots unconnected between, for instance, Martin on the one hand, and then on the other, Amadou Diallo or Sean Bell or Patrick Dorismond, or any of a number of other black men whose names — were I to list them — would take up page after page, and whose names wouldn’t mean shit to most white people even if I did list them, and that is the problem.

Oh sure, I’ve heard it all before. George Zimmerman didn’t follow Trayvon Martin because Martin was black; he followed him because he thought he might be a criminal. Yes precious, I get that. But what you don’t get — and by not getting it while still managing to somehow hold down a job and feed yourself, scare the shit out of me — is far more important. Namely, if the presumption of criminality that Zimmerman attached to Martin was so attached because the latter was black — and would not have been similarly attached to him had he been white — then the charge of racial bias and profiling is entirely appropriate.

...This is why it matters that George Zimmerman justified his following of Martin because as he put it, “these fucking punks” always get away. In other words, Zimmerman saw Martin as just another “fucking punk” up to no good, similar to those who had committed previous break-ins in the community. But why? What behavior did Martin display that would have suggested he was criminally inclined? Zimmerman’s team could produce nothing to indicate anything particularly suspicious about Martin’s actions that night. According to Zimmerman, Martin was walking in the rain, “looking around,” or “looking around at the houses.” But not looking in windows, or jiggling doorknobs or porch screens, or anything that might have suggested a possible burglar. At no point was any evidence presented by the defense to justify their client’s suspicions. All we know is that Zimmerman saw Martin and concluded that he was just like those other criminals. And to the extent there was nothing in Martin’s actions — talking on the telephone and walking slowly home from the store — that would have indicated he was another of those “fucking punks,” the only possible explanation as to why George Zimmerman would have seen him that way is because Martin, as a young black male was presumed to be a likely criminal, and for no other reason, ultimately, but color."


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Tim Wise on Trayvon Martin (Original Post) Number23 Jul 2013 OP
there are a lot of willfully ignorant DUers Skittles Jul 2013 #1
I run into them all through out social media. JRLeft Jul 2013 #14
There is always a racial angle, this time the racial angle was central to what happened. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #2
Is the homeowner's association considering taking action against Zimmerman? That would be Number23 Jul 2013 #5
I haven't heard anything about that. I feel that they're are more like codefendents. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #6
Zimmerman was in violation of the HOA rules jaysunb Jul 2013 #8
My understanding was... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #12
Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #3
K&R...n/t ms liberty Jul 2013 #4
I think the homeowner's association mainstreetonce Jul 2013 #7
They have not and jaysunb Jul 2013 #9
I heard that too. PsychGrad Jul 2013 #13
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2013 #10
Yes and, sheshe2 Jul 2013 #11
and is it any surprise , juror refers to Trayvon as Boy of Color, talked about riots which never JI7 Jul 2013 #15
Boy of Color NOLALady Jul 2013 #16
Kick JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #17
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. There is always a racial angle, this time the racial angle was central to what happened.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jul 2013

And I truly hope that we see successful action from the federal government and/or civil suits against Zimmerman, the homeowners association, the state of Florida, and anywhere else we can find it.

Such a beautiful young life, supposedly with all the benefits and opportunities available to young Americans, cut down in his prime for the color of his skin and for wearing a hoodie.

fuck.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
5. Is the homeowner's association considering taking action against Zimmerman? That would be
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013

really interesting.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. I haven't heard anything about that. I feel that they're are more like codefendents.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jul 2013

I don't know the details but he was working for them and unless they had a do not carry a firearm policy, then they could be held responsible for having hired him without adequate safeguards.

I can see them suing him if they get sued, depending upon the charges and outcome of any civil suits.

They both share blame.

damn.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
8. Zimmerman was in violation of the HOA rules
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jul 2013

by being armed. But they will claim that he was not acting in any official capacity.
Should be interesting to see what will happen w/ this action on behalf of the parents....and you can bet, this option has been on the table regardless of the outcome of the criminal trial.

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
12. My understanding was...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jul 2013

that Zimmerman was not "on duty" that night. He was simply headed out to the grocery store, saw Trayvon, and took it upon himself to go "on duty" from that point forward.

I also understood that Zimmerman was appointed the "leader" of the group, and was supposed to assign shifts and such to neighbors, but never did - wanting to do it entirely on his own. He apparently made something like 47 calls to the police reporting "suspicious" behavior or people in the neighborhood. It would be REALLY interesting to see how many of those calls were on white people, or hispanic people, or just in general, "not black" people. Eh?

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
7. I think the homeowner's association
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

has already been sued and settled with the Martin family. The family probably won't get much. That association has to be broke.

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
13. I heard that too.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:48 AM
Jul 2013

That they made a deal and settled outside of court. I didn't hear any details about it at all. Just that they agreed to not go to court.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
11. Yes and,
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:40 AM
Jul 2013
And so it continues. Year after year and case after case it continues, with black life viewed as expendable in the service of white fear, with black males in particular (but many a black female as well and plenty of Latino folk too) marked as problems to be solved, rather than as children to be nurtured.

From you link

Thank you Number 23.

America weeps.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
15. and is it any surprise , juror refers to Trayvon as Boy of Color, talked about riots which never
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jul 2013

happened. Tim Wise is right. we can talk about whether prosecution should have brought this or that up. but it wouldn't have mattered. only thing that would have made jury convict is if Trayvon was not black.


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