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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:22 PM Dec 2015

*** Posted to the African-American Group ***

What do Bravenak and DemocratSinceBirth have in common?

They have earned the wrath of that segment of DU that can't stand for less than joy jumping support of one candidate and/or expressions of smear towards another candidate.

DSB has gotten his 4th hide ... and the segment knows about it ... so a silencing is in the making.

To my ally, DSB ...please limit your posting to music videos, kittens, and unicorns for the immediate present ... it will make the forthcoming 5th hide, all the more transparent in its ridiculousness.

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*** Posted to the African-American Group *** (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 OP
In the coming months we will be saying upaloopa Dec 2015 #1
I love you...I was a miracle baby... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #2
Alert!!! Alert!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #11
Getting really tired of this stuff so I just have ask this . . . brush Dec 2015 #169
I've already been targeted too Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #202
What on earth did you do to get a Hide? comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #16
I guess theyou don't like the videos ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #19
That was my first thought, too. Cha Dec 2015 #29
Good people brer cat Dec 2015 #3
"Sit down and shut up." yallerdawg Dec 2015 #4
Some people on this board want to take out the bearers of good news for Hillary workinclasszero Dec 2015 #5
I am still here... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #8
Oh good DSB workinclasszero Dec 2015 #10
I did but now I will be in "Start Thread Only" mode until... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #13
I know how you feel, DSB. I'm spending much more time elsewhere now. calimary Dec 2015 #211
I am so over these Bernie people, I don't know what to do... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #6
You're assuming that is the purpose of the prime alerter ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #14
What other purpose should there be, at this point? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #17
I think some just want to argue with Black folks ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #20
I would join this sub thread but.../nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #24
Alert!!! Alert!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #26
He also said "sub." betsuni Dec 2015 #113
LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #119
Oh, that's just too perfect! MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #121
Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #145
They dont want to argue, that is the whole point. America is run for the most part randys1 Dec 2015 #31
That is true... Roy Rolling Dec 2015 #168
Yes. That's exactly what is happening. KMOD Dec 2015 #105
Yup. Squinch Dec 2015 #117
I think some just want to stomp everybody they disagree with. It's just particularly egregious Hekate Dec 2015 #179
Join the club, Kev Number23 Dec 2015 #84
By all mean...do that! Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #106
I would like to order one in navy blue as well. murielm99 Dec 2015 #166
LOL! Make mine pink! Cha Dec 2015 #193
They're alerting on poll results? And getting successful hides on polls? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #7
Sad that "if you don't agree with me we don't want you around" rules in some forums. George II Dec 2015 #9
Stalkers have no shame! leftofcool Dec 2015 #12
Sad day for DU. Please be careful. riversedge Dec 2015 #15
Another one? WTF man? Stay strong DSB, this too shall pass. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #18
KICKED AND RECOMMENDED JaneyVee Dec 2015 #21
If you're not feeling the Bern, look out! Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #22
Or, put another way - if you're not feeling the bern, you'll get burned. George II Dec 2015 #25
I am so sorry about that, Cali.. Cha Dec 2015 #27
It is getting absurd around here. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #23
Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #30
Racism is still HUGE in America and on it's internet message boards. randys1 Dec 2015 #32
And what makes it worse, is that posts that DO name call and insult are left to stand. MADem Dec 2015 #38
Well said. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #40
I'm glad the three of you have decided to stick around, despite efforts to the contrary. NBachers Dec 2015 #176
I don't know, kittens can create a lot of problems, but I agree with exactly what you are saying still_one Dec 2015 #28
Kittens are good! shenmue Dec 2015 #190
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I just melted still_one Dec 2015 #201
To all my fellow peeps who don't like said candiate Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #33
True, DU is no place for liberals at the moment. randys1 Dec 2015 #34
Good advice but it doesn't even have to be on one of those awful threads.. they come right into Cha Dec 2015 #49
Yes, indeed! n/t Kind of Blue Dec 2015 #77
^^^ THIS ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #111
I have to agree with this. MADem Dec 2015 #35
"More debates, more debates, DWS is rigging the Dem Party process" oasis Dec 2015 #45
There's one bright spot. Just one. Only one. MADem Dec 2015 #47
3/2. Super Tuesday plus one. oasis Dec 2015 #50
I'll be online here at the stroke of midnight on March 1 into March 2. I'll have to put on my.... George II Dec 2015 #60
3/2. Prepare for Hide-O-Rama Day. oasis Dec 2015 #75
I can picture it now.... MADem Dec 2015 #92
That is hysterical! Thanks for making my day. George II Dec 2015 #99
... revmclaren Dec 2015 #101
Followed by some really rude posts, conspiracy theories ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #112
Shades of Walt Starr! MADem Dec 2015 #172
loved it! Laser102 Dec 2015 #203
I was on a couple of juries just a fews days apart brer cat Dec 2015 #61
I think the people who do that kind of thing are sad folks. MADem Dec 2015 #70
DSB bends over backwards to be polite. He has 4 hides? oasis Dec 2015 #36
It makes me ill sometimes. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #37
K & R VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #39
I know of one poster who got 3 hides in one night for posting a link to a candidates immigration uponit7771 Dec 2015 #41
For the love of God... Number23 Dec 2015 #87
mail sent uponit7771 Dec 2015 #140
Stay strong my friend, a day of reckoning is coming. Alfresco Dec 2015 #42
K & R Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #43
I'm in the same boat Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #44
Wow. Agschmid Dec 2015 #46
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #64
Thank you for your OP, 1StrongBlackMan. How ironic the jury system is unjust on a Cha Dec 2015 #48
"So here's to brave, DSB, sheshe, cosmicone, Maggie, and all the others who were just speaking the NBachers Dec 2015 #181
Thank you, NBachers~ Cha Dec 2015 #185
DSB, we have your back! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #51
K&R BumRushDaShow Dec 2015 #52
These eggshells are getting really painful to walk on. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #53
the one where DSB said Clinton was a gift from God? MisterP Dec 2015 #54
Obviously not. Cha Dec 2015 #55
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #85
Was it?.. not the one he linked to though. Cha Dec 2015 #96
I commented awhile ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #97
wow.. good sad point. Cha Dec 2015 #98
THAT is what it has reminded me of all this time and YOU just nailed it! randys1 Dec 2015 #127
This was Alerted on and DURHAM D Dec 2015 #151
To Juror #2 ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #153
+1000 Digital Puppy Dec 2015 #158
Of course it was! I would expect nothing less. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #155
How in GOD'S NAME is that hide worthy?? Number23 Dec 2015 #88
And the powers to be dont seem to care about the racism here. randys1 Dec 2015 #128
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #118
I never rec posts, for some reason, but this one deserves it Godhumor Dec 2015 #56
They most certainly do deserve better.. thank you, Godhumor Cha Dec 2015 #58
And yet, pro-Bernie posters have more time outs on a board that's 80% pro-Bernie than pro-Hillary Number23 Dec 2015 #90
This is crazy Gothmog Dec 2015 #57
Yep... Sancho Dec 2015 #59
We can make our statement Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #62
I won't be voting against any candidate; but rather, . . 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #65
K&R Hoyt Dec 2015 #63
K&R OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #66
DSB is the epitome of class and decency! R B Garr Dec 2015 #67
A Big Kick and Recommend....... quickesst Dec 2015 #68
K&R mcar Dec 2015 #69
I think glittery unicorns can still earn a hide Sheepshank Dec 2015 #71
Tis why I avoid the primary threads leftynyc Dec 2015 #72
to those who jumop on bravenak and dsb DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #73
I have not seen one Hillary supporter Skidmore Dec 2015 #82
This right here a poster I can respect Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #198
thank you DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #207
Hell yes Number23 Dec 2015 #209
I'm sorry to see that Bravenak is out for a while Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #74
Blockquote l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #160
I enjoy reading the posts of DemocratSinceBirth, lovemydog Dec 2015 #76
K&R RandySF Dec 2015 #78
Thank you for making this so public steve2470 Dec 2015 #79
One can hope. n/t MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #100
I just picture in my mind how entertaining this place will be on Super Tuesday. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #80
Yes. Because democracy is only Skidmore Dec 2015 #83
What part,of silencing voices is democratic? 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #89
I was being Skidmore Dec 2015 #91
Doh ... Sorry! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #94
I always hated the cool kids anyway. wildeyed Dec 2015 #141
You win the internets tonight. Skidmore Dec 2015 #142
Damn I wish I'd said that ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #146
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #150
Clearly, the rest of us are just chopped liver. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #93
It is a blow to Skidmore Dec 2015 #95
Nothing heals like victory. :D Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #115
And that is the funny thing, in reality the most immature political person will randys1 Dec 2015 #129
Hang in there DSB. Ignore the haters, you are awesome. bettyellen Dec 2015 #81
They're always after me. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #86
K&R betsuni Dec 2015 #102
K&R JTFrog Dec 2015 #103
I can't wait until that happy day either. betsuni Dec 2015 #110
Probably, but we will have to endure about a month ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #114
I'm looking forward lovemydog Dec 2015 #130
Yeah ... I must confess ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #137
It's going to be like the guy who drinks at the company Christmas party and tells everyone off NBachers Dec 2015 #186
Oh crap.... wildeyed Dec 2015 #144
And, don't forget about all the ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #148
Noooooo, don't take HA Goodman! wildeyed Dec 2015 #157
PM it to me. I'm always up for a good laugh. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #159
K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #104
K & R KMOD Dec 2015 #107
I cannot imagine a hide-worthy post treestar Dec 2015 #108
How is it possible that DBS has 4 hides? Or even one? pnwmom Dec 2015 #109
sheshe2 is also on a transparency time-out ucrdem Dec 2015 #116
Yes. Bogus hides ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #122
I didn't know. This is freaking absurd. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #124
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Dec 2015 #120
K&R!!!!!! NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #123
Thanks for your courage redstateblues Dec 2015 #125
I enjoy both Bravenak and DSB's post. wildeyed Dec 2015 #126
"they just like the attention"... truer words... MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #132
Many will take their ball and go home. wildeyed Dec 2015 #134
K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #131
The AA group posters make this site readable gwheezie Dec 2015 #133
QUESTION: What does the user status "Flagged for review" mean? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #135
It means they got a 7-0 decision to hide ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #139
TYVM (nt) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #152
Kicking for my friends SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #136
If the hides are not rational, there is no way to avoid them. kwassa Dec 2015 #138
I would say this is getting ridiculous, but SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #143
It LOOKS like a good number of hides are of AA because of post in DU:P ... anyway to confirm this? uponit7771 Dec 2015 #147
Sure seems that way to me as well. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #183
DU's alert system is being abused. moobu2 Dec 2015 #149
"DU's alert system is being abused." l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #162
It cracks me up that these so-called "Progressives" Do everything to silence lunamagica Dec 2015 #154
Yeah, we're suppose to believe them when they say they're "progressive" when their actions Cha Dec 2015 #177
K&R. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #156
Jury results: Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #161
What the heck! Iliyah Dec 2015 #163
Anybody hiding posts in this group because they are "meta" is full of shit. Groups can have whatever Number23 Dec 2015 #167
"Divisive Meta" is their go to when someone is speaking the truth in a protected group.. Cha Dec 2015 #171
They've gone full on jerk mode JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #189
That is exactly why I led with that title. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #195
Juror #5 noticed that. Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #204
And yet, still 3 votes to hide. Number23 Dec 2015 #208
Really? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #174
Group Host JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #188
I'm convinced that the alerter came here on a mission ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #196
That - I do not doubt JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #197
I really think the jury system flat out doesn't work ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #164
I agree, CD.. there was a juror a few days ago that said "..Alerted should get punched in the face" Cha Dec 2015 #175
The teabaggers on the Discussionist are even worse ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #184
Well, I would never go on DI but I can well imagine that would be worse if possible bc I take Cha Dec 2015 #187
KMOD's on a time out again. She fell into an alert trap. betsuni Dec 2015 #165
Yeah stupid bogus alert and of course it was a hide. Cha Dec 2015 #192
K&R Bobbie Jo Dec 2015 #170
f*** these alerting cowards Skittles Dec 2015 #173
I'm coming to DU less and less these days LoveMyCali Dec 2015 #178
Kittens and unicorns -- check. Will look for those upcoming posts. Hekate Dec 2015 #180
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #182
I cannot K&R this post enough! BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #191
K&R Skidmore Dec 2015 #194
K&R!! Laser102 Dec 2015 #199
Rec. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #200
Hey! Thanks for letting me know yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #205
The only thing that is going to stop this awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #206
K&R oasis Dec 2015 #210
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #212

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. In the coming months we will be saying
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:29 PM
Dec 2015

"Remember the 2016 primaries and that Bernie Sanders group that used to be here?"

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. I love you...I was a miracle baby...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015

My mom was forty when she had me after many miscarriages. If I had a brother I would have wanted it to be you.

Oh, I am proud to be in the company of Bravenak.

brush

(53,776 posts)
169. Getting really tired of this stuff so I just have ask this . . .
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:55 AM
Dec 2015

Are any non-African American posters getting hounded like Bravenak and DemSinceBirth?

And you were in the cross hairs as well.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
202. I've already been targeted too
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

I got a hide from them and showed the host of the AA group the article I posted. The host reposted the article for me. I can't wait to vote for Hillary because she at least is a democrat.

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
3. Good people
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:34 PM
Dec 2015

DU could learn much from, but they must be silenced for daring to speak their opinions. As Kev said earlier this week, we have a "with us or against us" group here...the very antithesis of a "democratic" board.

Keep your head down, DSB.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Some people on this board want to take out the bearers of good news for Hillary
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:40 PM
Dec 2015

And DSB is one of the main peeps for that.

I sure hope DSB is back before Iowa when this board returns to supporting democrats lead by Hillary Clinton against the stinking republicans!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I am still here...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:51 PM
Dec 2015

Forthwith I will only start pro Hillary threads and will only respond to posts in the rarest of instances.

I can't believe after twelve years and 60,000 posts, and actually having business relationships with some members it has come to this.

I will probably spend more time on sports board which is my other passion.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
6. I am so over these Bernie people, I don't know what to do...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:40 PM
Dec 2015

I mean, they actually have to WIN and convert a lot of Hillary supporters to get the nomination, whether at DU or IRL.


Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
17. What other purpose should there be, at this point?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:12 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

According to every measure and every poll that I've ever seen (besides SOME online polls) that's what Bernie Sanders supporters need to do.

Simply from a canvassing standpoint, a caucusing standpoint (and it occurs to me that DU has some similarities to a caucus) the overzealous behavior makes no sense.

It's not persuasive in any way.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. I think some just want to argue with Black folks ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

And DU is the only, if not, the safest place to do so.

betsuni

(25,482 posts)
113. He also said "sub."
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:21 PM
Dec 2015

Implying that this part of the thread is "beneath" and "less than" the rest of the discussion. I am outraged. It is Identity Politics and I am not interested in them. I am hundreds of different things and none relate to the box you confine me in. ALERT!!!!111!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
31. They dont want to argue, that is the whole point. America is run for the most part
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:55 PM
Dec 2015

by white people (most, not all, but most) who are by definition privileged and used to telling everyone else what to do.

When you say you might not vote the way they tell you to, they get pissed.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
168. That is true...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:50 AM
Dec 2015

But those same white people exploit the 99.5% of other white people as well as 99.5% of black people.

You see, we really do have more in common. 99.5% of the white people you see have also been fu&@ed by "the man", too. Blaming those 99.5% for the actions of the white people that don't give a shit about ANYBODY empowers the minority white people you oppose.

But I hear ya, privileged people are generally morons.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
117. Yup.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:32 PM
Dec 2015

And not just argue with, but also exert control over, which is what the alert stalking is about.

Pretty frickin' ugly.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
179. I think some just want to stomp everybody they disagree with. It's just particularly egregious
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:38 AM
Dec 2015

...with the AA Group, because of stalking. I think the rest just want to divide DU until the pieces fall apart.

I can hardly wait for this to be over.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
84. Join the club, Kev
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:33 PM
Dec 2015
I am so over these Bernie people, I don't know what to do...

You and 97% of the other 2 billion people on the Internet. We're getting t-shirts made! Can I get you a navy blue??

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
166. I would like to order one in navy blue as well.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

I don't look good in black, or yellow. Navy blue is my color. It is Hillary's best color, too.

Get lots of shirts!!!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. They're alerting on poll results? And getting successful hides on polls?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:48 PM
Dec 2015

[hr]
Edit: Ahh... I found the recent post. Totally absurd, but predictable.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Sad that "if you don't agree with me we don't want you around" rules in some forums.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:54 PM
Dec 2015

In fact, I recall back in the summer someone called out DSB, claiming "how could you have been a Democrat since birth"!!!

I love your posts DSB, and......

Cha

(297,190 posts)
27. I am so sorry about that, Cali..
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:48 PM
Dec 2015

I got a hide for quoting a username of a bernie fan.. wasn't my fault his name was "**** ********" before it was named removed.

Nice jury system where the primary opposition is "85%" of the board and is so touchy about reality exposing their candidate.

And, they can't understand why some of us would prefer posting on another site where we can say what we want without getting alert stalked, hidden, and banished for however long. It's a fucked feeling to have to walk on eggshells before you post.. not being able to say what you really want to.. even though it's not that bad. Is it any wonder I **** **** ******?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. It is getting absurd around here.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:26 PM
Dec 2015

1Strong, DSB, and Bravenak have never called me names or insulted me in times we have disagreed. It has always been positive discussion. Sucks that they are doing this to the best that DU has to offer. I know you aren't discussing your hides in any way but the harassment on this board has changed posting patterns of those abused, insulted, and hurt the most.

We lose when this happens. I use to read many more ops in GD about social justice and race issues facing us today. The ops brought personal knowledge, nuance, and insight that is desperately needed. Fewer ops like that because of the exact toxicity you are mentioning while ops as offensive as the Stockholm one increase in number and are applauded louder. It's flat out painful to watch and we are suffering for it.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. And what makes it worse, is that posts that DO name call and insult are left to stand.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:14 PM
Dec 2015

If you've got 85% of the BU behind you, you get to ignore the TOS, I guess.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
176. I'm glad the three of you have decided to stick around, despite efforts to the contrary.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:31 AM
Dec 2015

I still have a vision of Democratic Underground - - that's what keeps me coming back here every day. You all are part of that vision.

Thanks for staying here. I am strengthened and reassured by your continued presence.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
33. To all my fellow peeps who don't like said candiate
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

Do yourselves a favor and trash his group, trash General Discussion: Primaries. A few of his post still pop up but I turn around and trash them so I don't have to deal with that mess.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
49. Good advice but it doesn't even have to be on one of those awful threads.. they come right into
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary's Group and hide someone's post that was Nothing but it went to jury and Bam.

oasis

(49,381 posts)
45. "More debates, more debates, DWS is rigging the Dem Party process"
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

"Debbie wants to silence Bernie". How many months have we been subjected to this supposed outrage from folks who apply a different set of rules for themselves



The level of hypocrisy here is unbelievable.

oasis

(49,381 posts)
50. 3/2. Super Tuesday plus one.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:46 PM
Dec 2015

It would be great to celebrate with DU's solid Hillary supporters on that day.

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. I'll be online here at the stroke of midnight on March 1 into March 2. I'll have to put on my....
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
Dec 2015

.....waders the water will be so deep with tears.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
112. Followed by some really rude posts, conspiracy theories ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)

And, a bunch of GBCWs.

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
61. I was on a couple of juries just a fews days apart
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:07 PM
Dec 2015

with alerts on posts of yours. They were left standing 1-6, but I felt like you must have a stalker hoping to catch 4 cohorts on a jury. I guess the odds are they would eventually, and that was probably your hide. I consider this "jury shopping" and it makes the system really suck.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
70. I think the people who do that kind of thing are sad folks.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:54 PM
Dec 2015

I actually feel sorry for them in a way, even though they're total jerks.

I can't imagine a life so devoid of joy that they'd get their jollies doing that kind of thing.

I work very hard at sticking to the issues. I often get called names in response. I will often point out--straight up--when people are personally insulting me, but even that kind of shaming doesn't stop many of 'em.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
37. It makes me ill sometimes.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:12 PM
Dec 2015

Brave and DSB are some of the best DU has to offer, and always polite.

Thanks for this thread 1SBM.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
39. K & R
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:18 PM
Dec 2015

Kickety!

As I also get some of the same treatment...they even called me out directly with whole long subthread and survived the alert because it is about Vanilla......

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
41. I know of one poster who got 3 hides in one night for posting a link to a candidates immigration
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:19 PM
Dec 2015

... record

Number23

(24,544 posts)
87. For the love of God...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:39 PM
Dec 2015


Could you please post a link to that thread? If you can remember where it was? TIA

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
44. I'm in the same boat
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:28 PM
Dec 2015

Two hides in a week including LBN posting about a candidate. I know just what your saying.

OS

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
46. Wow.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:37 PM
Dec 2015

I usually think most hides are deserved, including my own but that one is odd.

This kind of stuff is pretty much why I've stopped posting anything of substance any more.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
64. I know ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:16 PM
Dec 2015

I'm noticing a pattern ... I post something of substance and it gets alerted on with little discussion ... I post snark, and no alert ... just a long sub-thread.

Go figure.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
48. Thank you for your OP, 1StrongBlackMan. How ironic the jury system is unjust on a
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

"Democratic" board.

This is surreal.. I can't even believe we're talking about this.. DSB getting his fourth hide! Bravenak on another time out.

I saw what they hid her for and it was Nothing. Who does that?! Certainly not people who believe in Democracy.

And, of course, I can't really say what I want here about a certain candidate because.. well, you know the drill.

I'm just glad there's another political board where we can speak our mind because after 13 years discussing politics on the net.. it would feel really strange not to have a place to go to. That's why I got a computer in the 1st place in 2002.

The "protected groups" here aren't protected anymore.. there was a hide in Hillary's Group a couple of nights ago that was just talking about reality but the sensitive majority on DU deemed it sacrilege.

So here's to brave, DSB, sheshe, cosmicone, Maggie, and all the others who were just speaking the truth, without being vulgar, like some people who really do deserve hides.


NBachers

(17,108 posts)
181. "So here's to brave, DSB, sheshe, cosmicone, Maggie, and all the others who were just speaking the
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:42 AM
Dec 2015

truth, without being vulgar, like some people who really do deserve hides."

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
85. Well ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:36 PM
Dec 2015

That was one of the hidden posts. But it still is no more hide worthy than when the same thing was said about another candidate.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
96. Was it?.. not the one he linked to though.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:55 PM
Dec 2015

Of course it's not hide worthy.. I've seen so many posts that aren't in that category and now these members are all on time outs.

It's an unjust jury system with 85% of the board demanding ********.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
97. I commented awhile ago ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:01 PM
Dec 2015

That DU's jury system is not too different from the jury system of the jim crow south.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
151. This was Alerted on and
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:24 PM
Dec 2015

allowed to stay 2-5.



ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Overtly calling DU jury members racist.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:43 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Please don't dish out dirt if you cannot handle the consequences. I have not witnessed any posts on DU that deserve that label.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I disagree but I'd say leave it alone.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Many DU members are racist, sexist, ageist and regionalists? Sad but true.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stop alert-stalking the African American Group. The post references THE SYSTEM.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
153. To Juror #2 ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:31 PM
Dec 2015

You haven't seen it ... Well see WillyT's "Stockholm Syndrome" OP vs Cali Democrat's hidden response and get back to me.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
158. +1000
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:11 AM
Dec 2015

Ignorant-ass, dumb-ass, juror...next time recuse yourself from anything having to do with a jury (especially in this group!) until you can get a clue or understand what truth is (ie. Willie's T racist suppositions) and what belief is (the stupid ass reasoning you have spouted in your jury 'service').

Honestly, I have to give that juror kudos for their nerve to actually writing what their feeling..........removing all doubt about their foolishness.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
155. Of course it was! I would expect nothing less.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:35 PM
Dec 2015

A specific quote of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King comes to mind, whenever I see good liberals professing their blindness to the treatment of Black folks and our allies.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
88. How in GOD'S NAME is that hide worthy??
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:46 PM
Dec 2015

I don't agree with that comment at all but how is that hideworthy?? People call things and people "gifts from God" all of the time. In what way could someone consider that OFFENSIVE?

And what is with all of the "Catholic grandmother" idiocy? Who gives the first shit?? Half this board trashes Christians and other religions on a regular basis. Day in and day out. Wonder how the grandmother would feel about that?

We get told that black folks have Stockholm Syndrome, are low information voters, and that Bernie is MLK's spiritual twin and when black people say that shit is offensive -- which it actually is -- no one gives a shit. Not a hide to be found. But someone says that Hillary Clinton is a gift from God and these ever so special people run like Carl Lewis to hide it. NONE of this makes a damned bit of sense and is utter bullshit.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
118. Well ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:34 PM
Dec 2015

That was one of the hides ... for god only knows why. besides all the fake ass DU:Bernie outrage that someone might refer to HRC a gift from God, especially in the absence of outrage when Bernie was referred to in similar terms.

And even if there was no hypocrisy ... it is a common expression of approval ... the fake ass outrage crew should really attempt to control their emotions; it's really a transparent and unflattering look.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
56. I never rec posts, for some reason, but this one deserves it
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

I saw Bravenak earned a second timeout, and that DSB is in trouble. I also saw more than one poster posting in GDP about how these timeouts have reduced the toxicity of having non-Bernie supporters being active in the forum.

This is targeted. It is bullshit and it is petty. These posters deserve better.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
90. And yet, pro-Bernie posters have more time outs on a board that's 80% pro-Bernie than pro-Hillary
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:50 PM
Dec 2015

posters. That tells you all you need to know about the "quality" of the people "supporting" him.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
59. Yep...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:04 PM
Dec 2015

the piranha are swarming - and they target anyone who doesn't support their candidate.

The Jury system is broken, manipulated, and abused.

Thanks for the post.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
62. We can make our statement
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

when we vote against their favorite candidate. When that day come and he doesn't get the nomination it's going to be so interesting around here.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
65. I won't be voting against any candidate; but rather, . .
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

FOR a candidate ... though I suspect that the result will be the same.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
67. DSB is the epitome of class and decency!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

You are, too, 1Strong.

I saw gg's hide yesterday , and she was simply objecting to being called names: third way, wall street shenanigans mumbo jumbo.

I miss bravenak! I started reading through her transparency page and had to shake my head.

Hang in there, DSB! You don't deserve this.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
71. I think glittery unicorns can still earn a hide
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:57 PM
Dec 2015

so please leave off the glitter.

Boy are some factions freaked out about the impending losses they will need to endure!!!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
72. Tis why I avoid the primary threads
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:58 PM
Dec 2015

Stick to latest breaking (NOT polls) and general discussion. The primaries will be over soon enough.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
73. to those who jumop on bravenak and dsb
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:07 PM
Dec 2015

Look, I can understand disliking Hillary Clinton. Bravenak and I had have long, intense, but respectful conversations about why we are where we are, and wishing each other luck when it comes general election. However, the way some of you have hijacked the hide board is disgusting. You are acting in exactly the way you the PUMAS acted in 2008, and in some ways worse, you you claim you are the victims while trying to bash people's heads in.

Yes, some of the PUMAS are here in force too, but does that justify you getting to the point where you cheer someone sending RL mail as a threat? Is it worth it to turn the Jury system into a simple matter of who gets behind the scenes at the right time, and before you talk about what people at that other site did, I will ask this, if you are so eager to become like the people you com plain about, why the HELL would I want to join you?

I do not have to like Hillary to fight for the rights of people to discuss the matter without this being a poo fling.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
82. I have not seen one Hillary supporter
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

on DU who sounds like a PUMA. Not one. All of us have indicated that we would vote for BS in the general, unlike some Sanders supporters who have pulled the PUMA mantra out and have stated outright that the would not vote tor her when she is the candidate. Now we can disagree on who to support but this divisive crap does noone any good. PUMAs were a creation of the right wing to derail the Democratic party process.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
198. This right here a poster I can respect
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:52 AM
Dec 2015

we may not agree on candidates but I agree with their post, bravo.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
209. Hell yes
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:47 PM
Dec 2015
if you are so eager to become like the people you com plain about, why the HELL would I want to join you?

Damn right.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
74. I'm sorry to see that Bravenak is out for a while
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:07 PM
Dec 2015

She and I have had some discussions that we kept respectful of each other from which I have learned much. She has my respect.

DSB and I haven't crossed swords so much, so I can't give a fair opinion on him.

I was a moderator on the Foreign Affairs forum back before there was no I/P forum, and I/P discussions heavily dominated FA at that time. I removed many posts and banned a few users from both sides and developed a respect for DU rules. They are fair and should be used to judge when a post merits a hide or when it doesn't.

Personally, I can say that I've voted to hide Bernie posts and leave Hillary posts and don't keep track of how often I go one way or the other. I believe that I'm still more likely to vote to hide what I perceive to be a personal attack than others, regardless of from where the offender is coming. Some posters annoy me more than others, but I think we can all say that and it's no reason to vote to hide a post or to leave one that calls some other DU member a bald faced liar or suggests the object of the poster's ire has carnal relations with his female parent. It's no reason to alert on a post, either. I know, without knowing who, that not everybody does it that way, and strongly suspect that those who do not are not all supporters of one Democratic candidate or another.

Whoever you support, please don't use DU's jury system to target anyone. It's just wrong.

 

l.o.o.s.e.e-2

(53 posts)
160. Blockquote
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:20 AM
Dec 2015
"Whoever you support, please don't use DU's jury system to target anyone. It's just wrong."


^ This!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
76. I enjoy reading the posts of DemocratSinceBirth,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:16 PM
Dec 2015

Bravenak and all my friends in this group. They make me think, laugh, expand my mind.

For the segment 1SB mentions, hating on fellow democrats appears more important than treating others with respect.

Be careful around the slop. Don't get silenced by the slop!

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
79. Thank you for making this so public
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:21 PM
Dec 2015

Skinner really needs to take a hard look at these hides. It really is alert stalking.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
80. I just picture in my mind how entertaining this place will be on Super Tuesday.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:24 PM
Dec 2015

Primaries start in 6 weeks and one side is depending on mobilizing a segment of the electorate that never votes. They want to silence the facts, but facts are pesky things...!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
94. Doh ... Sorry! ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:55 PM
Dec 2015

I've seen similar comments out of certain corners of DU of late ... and I have no doubt that theY were being serious.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
141. I always hated the cool kids anyway.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:28 PM
Dec 2015

And anyway, how did an old grouchy white guy from Vermont get cool? JFK was cool. Obama IS cool. Hillary gets middling cool marks, just for her being such a badass during the Benghazi hearings. Bernie is sad liberal nostalgia for a time when white men could talk socialist smack but didn't have to check their privilege, that is what I think. Nothing to do with cool.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
142. You win the internets tonight.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:33 PM
Dec 2015

Everything you said is true. I don't want to go back to the 1950s. There was so much wrong with that period and it wasn't the economic utopia for many groups for which the cool kids are nostalgic.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
129. And that is the funny thing, in reality the most immature political person will
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:02 PM
Dec 2015

do what I am seeing around here

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
103. K&R
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:48 PM
Dec 2015

I seriously hate what is happening on DU at the moment. It's gotten completely out of hand. And that segment is just so proud of their disgusting behavior and their bashing, trashing and undermining of actual Democrats and their supporters.

Can't wait til Sanders drops out and general election season kicks in. There will at least be a short reprieve from the constant negative droning.

betsuni

(25,482 posts)
110. I can't wait until that happy day either.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:03 PM
Dec 2015

It's personal, that segment has made it so. Burned all bridges.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
114. Probably, but we will have to endure about a month ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

of conspiracy theories and loud shouting and GBCWs.

And, I'm not even a HRC-Primary supporter.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
186. It's going to be like the guy who drinks at the company Christmas party and tells everyone off
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:10 AM
Dec 2015

and behaves like a loudmouth jerk.

He has to go back and work with the same people he cursed out. There are some high-profile loudmouths around here who's posts I never click on. They've isolated themselves within their own posse, and I can't really see them contributing anything of value here in the future.

I expect a period of revenge-stalking, and big-mouthed doubling-down bravado. I'm afraid we're in for some bad loser behavior.

Me? I just want to see a good Democratic candidate take the White House with long coat tails. Whoever it is.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
144. Oh crap....
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:45 PM
Dec 2015

It's going to be non-stop on how the election was STOLEN because Bernie won ALL of the online clickbait polls and they are real so there is no way he could have lost the actual election. And how the machines flipped votes and links to stupid conspiracy websites.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
148. And, don't forget about all the ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:18 PM
Dec 2015

DWS/DNC/Oligarchs threads.

But on the positive side ... there will be no HA Goodman OPs, because he will no doubt revert to his Paulian persona, and write an artice entitled, "Progressives Are So Easily Played."

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
157. Noooooo, don't take HA Goodman!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:09 AM
Dec 2015

I have become mildly obsessed with the Goodmanator. My theory is that HA is not a person. Have you read about the writing programs websites and newspapers use to produce fast and cheap content? Well that is what I think HA is. Someone scans all the random tweets of Bernie Sanders Online Red Brigade for key words and themes, then uses an algorithm to write the cruel and fantastic articles that EXACTLY mirror what the peeps want to hear. It is a self-feeding monster. It's the only possible explanation

I made my own simple version that manufactures mean tweets and drive-by insults based on HA articles and a few of the more bizarre posts I have met here. I would post the link, but would def get a hide for that. It's basically Pejorative Adjective + Hillary Clinton + is the same as OR is worse than OR reminds me of + Republican or Enron or Trump, Etc + random weird insults that have been hurled at me on this site. It works pretty well. If I do another for Clinton supporters, we could completely outsource most of GD: P. More time for cat pictures! I should tell the admins

treestar

(82,383 posts)
108. I cannot imagine a hide-worthy post
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:58 PM
Dec 2015

from the dispassionate observer, DSB. Some of the juries are really biased.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
109. How is it possible that DBS has 4 hides? Or even one?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:00 PM
Dec 2015

I am so disappointed in DUers lately. This place is a mess.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
122. Yes. Bogus hides ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:41 PM
Dec 2015

But the "I have 3 people on ignore ..." post, made me laugh and spill my beer.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
124. I didn't know. This is freaking absurd.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:49 PM
Dec 2015

I looked at the first two, and I'm like how is this hideable.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
126. I enjoy both Bravenak and DSB's post.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:51 PM
Dec 2015

Sorry to hear about the problems. I have two hides in the past two weeks, which is one more than I had in the previous 12 years. I fully deserved them, but on the other hand, I had never seen that level of bullying and insensitivity here before. I walked into a bravenak thread after having been out for a few months and saw some of the BS that was being posted and I was like WHAAAAAA???? And just blatant, broad brush insults to women all over the place. The old system would have nipped that mess in the bud. But now it is the Wild West I can drop f-bombs and hurl insults with the best of them, but then I get the hide and half the time the other BS stand. Oh well. We can hope that it is better after the primary season is over.

But it may be that this new moderation system does not allow for serious discussion beyond a certain point. The old moderation system was a huuuuge PITA. I really hoped this new one would be successful. I was giving it a chance. But this sucks.



Here is an interesting thing. After my second hide, I strategically hid about five high volume Bernie posters. Not because of anything personal, but because they were basically spamming the board with nonsense and it was getting under my skin. They know better, they just like the attention, so the best thing I can do is not pay attention. And then I hid a few more who stuck out to me as particularly venomous. I also took both candidate forums off my Greatest page (I see new Hillary Clinton threads in my Subscription pane anyway, and can still click over if I want to read the Bernie forum). I also turned of sig lines. They were all blinking and got on my nerves. Anyway, a much better experience. I still get both perspectives, but the volume is turned down to a reasonable level.

Good luck.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
132. "they just like the attention"... truer words...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:35 PM
Dec 2015

Though, I do fear it will not get better after the primaries.

I turned off the sig lines too. What a relief.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
134. Many will take their ball and go home.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:06 PM
Dec 2015

They are not real players anyway. And that will deny the shit-stirrers an audience. There has always been some of this here, especially around primaries.

We shall see how it goes after the primaries. I have had really challenging, brutal discussion here, especially about race. I would absolutely not post half the stuff I did then with the jury system. Some of the stuff I posted then was painful and upsetting but it was legit and within the bounds of what was allowed on this board, so it stood. I would absolutely not trust the jury system to some of those posts. So maybe this is not the right place for me. People are just looking for the quick, easy hit of the Greatest page and will hide anything that makes them feel a teensy bit uncomfortable. That's boring to me. And Facebook does that better anyway. Whatever.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
131. K&R
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:33 PM
Dec 2015

Two of my favorite posters silenced for speaking truth, AND silenced by a pitiful majority with all the self insight mob mentality offers.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
133. The AA group posters make this site readable
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:55 PM
Dec 2015

But I get the feeling some folks here don't want us coming out of this group and disrupting the racist threads that are allowed to stand.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
135. QUESTION: What does the user status "Flagged for review" mean?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:07 PM
Dec 2015

I saw that the other day for another user who had received a 7-0 hide.

Does it mean the user is close to being suspended or banned?

Or is that standard procedure for any 7-0 jury decision?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
139. It means they got a 7-0 decision to hide ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:18 PM
Dec 2015

Or, the poster got several hide in a short period of time, so Admins review it for time out or booting.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
138. If the hides are not rational, there is no way to avoid them.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:12 PM
Dec 2015

Many jurors don't take the job seriously, or strive for objectivity; their decisions only reflect their political leanings, or their sometimes limited knowledge of what is being talked about.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
143. I would say this is getting ridiculous, but
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

it has been ridiculous for a long time.

I've trashed the Bernie group and GD: P, and proudly and happily been kicked out of the Bernie group.

Thank you for this post.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
154. It cracks me up that these so-called "Progressives" Do everything to silence
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:35 PM
Dec 2015

those who don't agree with them. They don't have the skills, intellectually or verbally and the knowledge to engage in an honest, mature discussion...so they stalk these posters, in hope to drive them away for good.

It's a real ostrich with its head buried in the sand mentality. Drive the posters they can't debate away, and the problem will be gone.

To Bravenak, DBS and anyone having to suffer this idiocy, please, stay strong. We all know they are acting out of desperation. In just a few weeks, reality will burst their bubble. Their fantasy will be over. They know it, so they lash out.

Then this lunacy will be over.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
177. Yeah, we're suppose to believe them when they say they're "progressive" when their actions
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:32 AM
Dec 2015

say otherwise.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
161. Jury results:
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:27 AM
Dec 2015

On Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:54 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

*** Posted to the African-American Group ***
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118734639

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:14 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!" Accusatory phrasing unsupported by any contemporaneous submissions even in view of relevant "alerted" post. Member who was "alerted on" has in excess of 15,000 (fifteen thousand) posts which ostensibly indicates not only commitment to DU but, as well, value to the community herein at large.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter's use of "they" is interesting. And this pointless alert looks like confirmed shameless alert stalking, not even hidden.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree that they are not persecuted victims. There is more reason for the hides than that they are supporting one candidate. And this is meta, plain and simple. It is not appropriate.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
167. Anybody hiding posts in this group because they are "meta" is full of shit. Groups can have whatever
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:49 AM
Dec 2015

content they want. And I know everyone on this board knows that.

As long as the posts are not against the Terms of Service of this web site which includes personal attacks on other DUers, or posts that advocate violence or criminal activity, there is no reason for ANYBODY to be coming in here trying to hide our posts.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
171. "Divisive Meta" is their go to when someone is speaking the truth in a protected group..
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:18 AM
Dec 2015

But they'll rec to the hilt an op that smears Hillary supporters as sad that harper lost in Canada.. without any proof or an inkling of evidence.

Then it's not "divisive".. see how that works.

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!" Accusatory phrasing unsupported by any contemporaneous submissions even in view of relevant "alerted" post. Member who was "alerted on" has in excess of 15,000 (fifteen thousand) posts which ostensibly indicates not only commitment to DU but, as well, value to the community herein at large.

This Alert and subsequent explanation of juror #6 only validates 1Strong's point of the OP. I cannot say more what I think about the alerter and that juror or they'd be swooping right down on my candid ass for the red whine alert!

#Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree that they are not persecuted victims. There is more reason for the hides than that they are supporting one candidate. And this is meta, plain and simple. It is not appropriate.


Oh, it is not "appropriate".. Do tell us all about it. Hear that, 1Strong.. someone on the jury thinks you're not appropriate. Boo*******HOO!

Lest I get alerted on for not being "appropriate".

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
188. Group Host
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:50 AM
Dec 2015

Juror # 6 and # 7

Do not ever come in this group - and neither should the alerter.

Meta is allowed in groups - now - Get to stepping.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
196. I'm convinced that the alerter came here on a mission ...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:31 AM
Dec 2015

To alert on the thread.

But on a positive note, in a time, not so long ago, an alert in this group, of one of my OPs, would have returned a 7-0/6-1 vote to hide ...

That MLK quote about the luke warmness of some liberals, continues to be proven, as other liberals are heatin up to this nonsense.

... or, the alert came during an airing of Dumb & Dumber, and 60% of the 85% were offline.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
197. That - I do not doubt
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:24 AM
Dec 2015

Probably the person who I served on a jury this for this morning - and voted to hide. He/She no likey that the person they have accused of 'stalking' them is getting props.

Had it been one of their 'faves' or as Lainey (offsite reference) refers to Leo Dicaprio's latest model(s) - 'bona fide' - this would never have been alerted on.

Furthermore - it would have killed two birds with one stone.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
164. I really think the jury system flat out doesn't work
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:36 AM
Dec 2015

Not with so many trying to twist it into a form of censorship of opinions that people (mostly the hard left) doesn't like.
It's not supposed to be that way. But the admin team don't do near enough to remove jury privileges from people who are toxic jurors.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Cha

(297,190 posts)
175. I agree, CD.. there was a juror a few days ago that said "..Alerted should get punched in the face"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:28 AM
Dec 2015

I damn well sure hope the Admins received the Alert on that explanation.. loud and clear.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
184. The teabaggers on the Discussionist are even worse
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:58 AM
Dec 2015

My "fifth" hide there a while back was for saying that 'a racist-flag waver doesn't have any business talking about the race card'. The guy literally had (and still has) a Confederate flag as his logo, which is absolutely 100% racist - used as the emblem of the KKK for nearly a century. But it got a hide.

Skinner is wrong to think that a "community" of reasonable people form around political discussion groups. It seems to only attract the absolute wingnuts, who have basically nothing interesting at all to say. If I want to read alternet, or listen to Rush, I'll go there directly. No need to come here to hear people parroting things - especially things that aren't actually true.

But heaven forfend you tell them a little truth, even obliquely. They get all offended by it. And try to abuse the jury system, alert stalk, etc.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Cha

(297,190 posts)
187. Well, I would never go on DI but I can well imagine that would be worse if possible bc I take
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:10 AM
Dec 2015

it rwingers are in the majority there and they're ruling the jury system!?

LOL SOL! They are your masters.. kneel!

But ".. Punch the Alerted in the face" is very violently bad anywhere. And, It doesn't matter if they're rwinger or whomever.. anyone who alerts and then hides to censor anyone else's pov doesn't belong in the jury system.

Vulgar posts should be hidden but the posts I've seen hidden are just expressing their POV.

If someone fucking laughs the wrong way they're up for grabs with the Alert Squad on DU.

Your post is a perfect example of assholes in charge. Ooooops!

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
178. I'm coming to DU less and less these days
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:36 AM
Dec 2015

I rarely post anyway but there isn't really much of interest to even read these days.

When I first joined DU it really was a place to gain knowledge even if I disagreed with the viewpoint of a poster there was thought provoking articles to back up statements. Things have certainly changed.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
180. Kittens and unicorns -- check. Will look for those upcoming posts.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:41 AM
Dec 2015

Gods, I can hardly wait for this to be over.

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
191. I cannot K&R this post enough!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:11 AM
Dec 2015

To Bravenak & DSB, I admire you both and am proud to count myself among the many DUers who do.

Whatever may happen to either or both of you on DU so long as the current silliness is allowed to run rampant and trump reason, please know that I will be glad to be counted among your supporters.

Kudos also to 1SBM and the AA group for consistently providing some of the best discourse anywhere on DU!

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
194. K&R
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:30 AM
Dec 2015

Shameful times on DU. Love both of them and the attempts to silence them are doing noone any favors. Thanks for an opportunity to throw some support their way.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
205. Hey! Thanks for letting me know
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:40 PM
Dec 2015

about Bravenak. I sent her a message on twitter, hopefully to cheer her up.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
206. The only thing that is going to stop this
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:23 PM
Dec 2015

is if the admins get involved. The current "moderating" system blows big time.

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