African American
Related: About this forum*** Posted to the African-American Group ***
What do Bravenak and DemocratSinceBirth have in common?
They have earned the wrath of that segment of DU that can't stand for less than joy jumping support of one candidate and/or expressions of smear towards another candidate.
DSB has gotten his 4th hide ... and the segment knows about it ... so a silencing is in the making.
To my ally, DSB ...please limit your posting to music videos, kittens, and unicorns for the immediate present ... it will make the forthcoming 5th hide, all the more transparent in its ridiculousness.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)"Remember the 2016 primaries and that Bernie Sanders group that used to be here?"
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)My mom was forty when she had me after many miscarriages. If I had a brother I would have wanted it to be you.
Oh, I am proud to be in the company of Bravenak.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You didn't praise the one candidate or bash the other!
brush
(53,776 posts)Are any non-African American posters getting hounded like Bravenak and DemSinceBirth?
And you were in the cross hairs as well.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)I got a hide from them and showed the host of the AA group the article I posted. The host reposted the article for me. I can't wait to vote for Hillary because she at least is a democrat.
comradebillyboy
(10,144 posts)You are one of the most civil and considerate posters I see at DU?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Or, his challenges of bogus polling methodology.
Cha
(297,190 posts)brer cat
(24,562 posts)DU could learn much from, but they must be silenced for daring to speak their opinions. As Kev said earlier this week, we have a "with us or against us" group here...the very antithesis of a "democratic" board.
Keep your head down, DSB.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Nothing Democratic about that.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And DSB is one of the main peeps for that.
I sure hope DSB is back before Iowa when this board returns to supporting democrats lead by Hillary Clinton against the stinking republicans!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Forthwith I will only start pro Hillary threads and will only respond to posts in the rarest of instances.
I can't believe after twelve years and 60,000 posts, and actually having business relationships with some members it has come to this.
I will probably spend more time on sports board which is my other passion.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I thought you got a hide, whew!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)I mean, they actually have to WIN and convert a lot of Hillary supporters to get the nomination, whether at DU or IRL.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Bless your benevolent soul!
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)
According to every measure and every poll that I've ever seen (besides SOME online polls) that's what Bernie Sanders supporters need to do.
Simply from a canvassing standpoint, a caucusing standpoint (and it occurs to me that DU has some similarities to a caucus) the overzealous behavior makes no sense.
It's not persuasive in any way.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)And DU is the only, if not, the safest place to do so.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You said, "but".
betsuni
(25,482 posts)Implying that this part of the thread is "beneath" and "less than" the rest of the discussion. I am outraged. It is Identity Politics and I am not interested in them. I am hundreds of different things and none relate to the box you confine me in. ALERT!!!!111!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Thank you for the smile.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Now THAT's pretty funny!
randys1
(16,286 posts)by white people (most, not all, but most) who are by definition privileged and used to telling everyone else what to do.
When you say you might not vote the way they tell you to, they get pissed.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)But those same white people exploit the 99.5% of other white people as well as 99.5% of black people.
You see, we really do have more in common. 99.5% of the white people you see have also been fu&@ed by "the man", too. Blaming those 99.5% for the actions of the white people that don't give a shit about ANYBODY empowers the minority white people you oppose.
But I hear ya, privileged people are generally morons.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)and we all see it.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)And not just argue with, but also exert control over, which is what the alert stalking is about.
Pretty frickin' ugly.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)...with the AA Group, because of stalking. I think the rest just want to divide DU until the pieces fall apart.
I can hardly wait for this to be over.
Number23
(24,544 posts)You and 97% of the other 2 billion people on the Internet. We're getting t-shirts made! Can I get you a navy blue??
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)I'll take a L!
murielm99
(30,736 posts)I don't look good in black, or yellow. Navy blue is my color. It is Hillary's best color, too.
Get lots of shirts!!!
Cha
(297,190 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)[hr]
Edit: Ahh... I found the recent post. Totally absurd, but predictable.
George II
(67,782 posts)In fact, I recall back in the summer someone called out DSB, claiming "how could you have been a Democrat since birth"!!!
I love your posts DSB, and......
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The silencing continues...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I got two hides a few months ago for quoting Bernie directly.
George II
(67,782 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)I got a hide for quoting a username of a bernie fan.. wasn't my fault his name was "**** ********" before it was named removed.
Nice jury system where the primary opposition is "85%" of the board and is so touchy about reality exposing their candidate.
And, they can't understand why some of us would prefer posting on another site where we can say what we want without getting alert stalked, hidden, and banished for however long. It's a fucked feeling to have to walk on eggshells before you post.. not being able to say what you really want to.. even though it's not that bad. Is it any wonder I **** **** ******?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)1Strong, DSB, and Bravenak have never called me names or insulted me in times we have disagreed. It has always been positive discussion. Sucks that they are doing this to the best that DU has to offer. I know you aren't discussing your hides in any way but the harassment on this board has changed posting patterns of those abused, insulted, and hurt the most.
We lose when this happens. I use to read many more ops in GD about social justice and race issues facing us today. The ops brought personal knowledge, nuance, and insight that is desperately needed. Fewer ops like that because of the exact toxicity you are mentioning while ops as offensive as the Stockholm one increase in number and are applauded louder. It's flat out painful to watch and we are suffering for it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)If you've got 85% of the BU behind you, you get to ignore the TOS, I guess.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)I still have a vision of Democratic Underground - - that's what keeps me coming back here every day. You all are part of that vision.
Thanks for staying here. I am strengthened and reassured by your continued presence.
still_one
(92,187 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]
still_one
(92,187 posts)Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)Do yourselves a favor and trash his group, trash General Discussion: Primaries. A few of his post still pop up but I turn around and trash them so I don't have to deal with that mess.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)Hillary's Group and hide someone's post that was Nothing but it went to jury and Bam.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I got a "stalker hide" myself the other day.
oasis
(49,381 posts)"Debbie wants to silence Bernie". How many months have we been subjected to this supposed outrage from folks who apply a different set of rules for themselves
The level of hypocrisy here is unbelievable.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It'll be over, eventually!
oasis
(49,381 posts)It would be great to celebrate with DU's solid Hillary supporters on that day.
George II
(67,782 posts).....waders the water will be so deep with tears.
oasis
(49,381 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)hilarious but true!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)
And, a bunch of GBCWs.
MADem
(135,425 posts)brer cat
(24,562 posts)with alerts on posts of yours. They were left standing 1-6, but I felt like you must have a stalker hoping to catch 4 cohorts on a jury. I guess the odds are they would eventually, and that was probably your hide. I consider this "jury shopping" and it makes the system really suck.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I actually feel sorry for them in a way, even though they're total jerks.
I can't imagine a life so devoid of joy that they'd get their jollies doing that kind of thing.
I work very hard at sticking to the issues. I often get called names in response. I will often point out--straight up--when people are personally insulting me, but even that kind of shaming doesn't stop many of 'em.
oasis
(49,381 posts)Something is terribly wrong.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Brave and DSB are some of the best DU has to offer, and always polite.
Thanks for this thread 1SBM.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Kickety!
As I also get some of the same treatment...they even called me out directly with whole long subthread and survived the alert because it is about Vanilla......
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... record
Number23
(24,544 posts)Could you please post a link to that thread? If you can remember where it was? TIA
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Don't leave us yet, we need a good ally.
Omaha Steve
(99,618 posts)Two hides in a week including LBN posting about a candidate. I know just what your saying.
OS
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I usually think most hides are deserved, including my own but that one is odd.
This kind of stuff is pretty much why I've stopped posting anything of substance any more.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I'm noticing a pattern ... I post something of substance and it gets alerted on with little discussion ... I post snark, and no alert ... just a long sub-thread.
Go figure.
Cha
(297,190 posts)"Democratic" board.
This is surreal.. I can't even believe we're talking about this.. DSB getting his fourth hide! Bravenak on another time out.
I saw what they hid her for and it was Nothing. Who does that?! Certainly not people who believe in Democracy.
And, of course, I can't really say what I want here about a certain candidate because.. well, you know the drill.
I'm just glad there's another political board where we can speak our mind because after 13 years discussing politics on the net.. it would feel really strange not to have a place to go to. That's why I got a computer in the 1st place in 2002.
The "protected groups" here aren't protected anymore.. there was a hide in Hillary's Group a couple of nights ago that was just talking about reality but the sensitive majority on DU deemed it sacrilege.
So here's to brave, DSB, sheshe, cosmicone, Maggie, and all the others who were just speaking the truth, without being vulgar, like some people who really do deserve hides.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)truth, without being vulgar, like some people who really do deserve hides."
Cha
(297,190 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Take care buddy!
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)and they have been all over Chitown Kev as well... Just bogus alert stalk crap.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That was one of the hidden posts. But it still is no more hide worthy than when the same thing was said about another candidate.
Cha
(297,190 posts)Of course it's not hide worthy.. I've seen so many posts that aren't in that category and now these members are all on time outs.
It's an unjust jury system with 85% of the board demanding ********.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That DU's jury system is not too different from the jury system of the jim crow south.
Cha
(297,190 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)allowed to stay 2-5.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Overtly calling DU jury members racist.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:43 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Please don't dish out dirt if you cannot handle the consequences. I have not witnessed any posts on DU that deserve that label.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I disagree but I'd say leave it alone.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Many DU members are racist, sexist, ageist and regionalists? Sad but true.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stop alert-stalking the African American Group. The post references THE SYSTEM.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You haven't seen it ... Well see WillyT's "Stockholm Syndrome" OP vs Cali Democrat's hidden response and get back to me.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)Ignorant-ass, dumb-ass, juror...next time recuse yourself from anything having to do with a jury (especially in this group!) until you can get a clue or understand what truth is (ie. Willie's T racist suppositions) and what belief is (the stupid ass reasoning you have spouted in your jury 'service').
Honestly, I have to give that juror kudos for their nerve to actually writing what their feeling..........removing all doubt about their foolishness.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)A specific quote of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King comes to mind, whenever I see good liberals professing their blindness to the treatment of Black folks and our allies.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I don't agree with that comment at all but how is that hideworthy?? People call things and people "gifts from God" all of the time. In what way could someone consider that OFFENSIVE?
And what is with all of the "Catholic grandmother" idiocy? Who gives the first shit?? Half this board trashes Christians and other religions on a regular basis. Day in and day out. Wonder how the grandmother would feel about that?
We get told that black folks have Stockholm Syndrome, are low information voters, and that Bernie is MLK's spiritual twin and when black people say that shit is offensive -- which it actually is -- no one gives a shit. Not a hide to be found. But someone says that Hillary Clinton is a gift from God and these ever so special people run like Carl Lewis to hide it. NONE of this makes a damned bit of sense and is utter bullshit.
randys1
(16,286 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That was one of the hides ... for god only knows why. besides all the fake ass DU:Bernie outrage that someone might refer to HRC a gift from God, especially in the absence of outrage when Bernie was referred to in similar terms.
And even if there was no hypocrisy ... it is a common expression of approval ... the fake ass outrage crew should really attempt to control their emotions; it's really a transparent and unflattering look.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)I saw Bravenak earned a second timeout, and that DSB is in trouble. I also saw more than one poster posting in GDP about how these timeouts have reduced the toxicity of having non-Bernie supporters being active in the forum.
This is targeted. It is bullshit and it is petty. These posters deserve better.
Cha
(297,190 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)posters. That tells you all you need to know about the "quality" of the people "supporting" him.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)the piranha are swarming - and they target anyone who doesn't support their candidate.
The Jury system is broken, manipulated, and abused.
Thanks for the post.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)when we vote against their favorite candidate. When that day come and he doesn't get the nomination it's going to be so interesting around here.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)FOR a candidate ... though I suspect that the result will be the same.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)You are, too, 1Strong.
I saw gg's hide yesterday , and she was simply objecting to being called names: third way, wall street shenanigans mumbo jumbo.
I miss bravenak! I started reading through her transparency page and had to shake my head.
Hang in there, DSB! You don't deserve this.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)....for joy.
mcar
(42,307 posts)Both are fine DUers.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)so please leave off the glitter.
Boy are some factions freaked out about the impending losses they will need to endure!!!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Stick to latest breaking (NOT polls) and general discussion. The primaries will be over soon enough.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Look, I can understand disliking Hillary Clinton. Bravenak and I had have long, intense, but respectful conversations about why we are where we are, and wishing each other luck when it comes general election. However, the way some of you have hijacked the hide board is disgusting. You are acting in exactly the way you the PUMAS acted in 2008, and in some ways worse, you you claim you are the victims while trying to bash people's heads in.
Yes, some of the PUMAS are here in force too, but does that justify you getting to the point where you cheer someone sending RL mail as a threat? Is it worth it to turn the Jury system into a simple matter of who gets behind the scenes at the right time, and before you talk about what people at that other site did, I will ask this, if you are so eager to become like the people you com plain about, why the HELL would I want to join you?
I do not have to like Hillary to fight for the rights of people to discuss the matter without this being a poo fling.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)on DU who sounds like a PUMA. Not one. All of us have indicated that we would vote for BS in the general, unlike some Sanders supporters who have pulled the PUMA mantra out and have stated outright that the would not vote tor her when she is the candidate. Now we can disagree on who to support but this divisive crap does noone any good. PUMAs were a creation of the right wing to derail the Democratic party process.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)we may not agree on candidates but I agree with their post, bravo.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)sometimes 2 + 2 =4
Number23
(24,544 posts)Damn right.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)She and I have had some discussions that we kept respectful of each other from which I have learned much. She has my respect.
DSB and I haven't crossed swords so much, so I can't give a fair opinion on him.
I was a moderator on the Foreign Affairs forum back before there was no I/P forum, and I/P discussions heavily dominated FA at that time. I removed many posts and banned a few users from both sides and developed a respect for DU rules. They are fair and should be used to judge when a post merits a hide or when it doesn't.
Personally, I can say that I've voted to hide Bernie posts and leave Hillary posts and don't keep track of how often I go one way or the other. I believe that I'm still more likely to vote to hide what I perceive to be a personal attack than others, regardless of from where the offender is coming. Some posters annoy me more than others, but I think we can all say that and it's no reason to vote to hide a post or to leave one that calls some other DU member a bald faced liar or suggests the object of the poster's ire has carnal relations with his female parent. It's no reason to alert on a post, either. I know, without knowing who, that not everybody does it that way, and strongly suspect that those who do not are not all supporters of one Democratic candidate or another.
Whoever you support, please don't use DU's jury system to target anyone. It's just wrong.
l.o.o.s.e.e-2
(53 posts)"Whoever you support, please don't use DU's jury system to target anyone. It's just wrong."
^ This!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Bravenak and all my friends in this group. They make me think, laugh, expand my mind.
For the segment 1SB mentions, hating on fellow democrats appears more important than treating others with respect.
Be careful around the slop. Don't get silenced by the slop!
RandySF
(58,799 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Skinner really needs to take a hard look at these hides. It really is alert stalking.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Primaries start in 6 weeks and one side is depending on mobilizing a segment of the electorate that never votes. They want to silence the facts, but facts are pesky things...!
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)for the cool kids.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)sarcastic on my kindle--a bad idea all around. I support Hillary so I'm not a cool kid.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I've seen similar comments out of certain corners of DU of late ... and I have no doubt that theY were being serious.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)And anyway, how did an old grouchy white guy from Vermont get cool? JFK was cool. Obama IS cool. Hillary gets middling cool marks, just for her being such a badass during the Benghazi hearings. Bernie is sad liberal nostalgia for a time when white men could talk socialist smack but didn't have to check their privilege, that is what I think. Nothing to do with cool.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Everything you said is true. I don't want to go back to the 1950s. There was so much wrong with that period and it wasn't the economic utopia for many groups for which the cool kids are nostalgic.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Perfect.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)We've been doing democracy wrong all of these years.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)the old self-esteem.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)do what I am seeing around here
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I take their hatred as a sign I am doing well.
betsuni
(25,482 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I seriously hate what is happening on DU at the moment. It's gotten completely out of hand. And that segment is just so proud of their disgusting behavior and their bashing, trashing and undermining of actual Democrats and their supporters.
Can't wait til Sanders drops out and general election season kicks in. There will at least be a short reprieve from the constant negative droning.
betsuni
(25,482 posts)It's personal, that segment has made it so. Burned all bridges.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)of conspiracy theories and loud shouting and GBCWs.
And, I'm not even a HRC-Primary supporter.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)to some of it. It makes me laugh.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It is a bit of a guilty pleasure.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)and behaves like a loudmouth jerk.
He has to go back and work with the same people he cursed out. There are some high-profile loudmouths around here who's posts I never click on. They've isolated themselves within their own posse, and I can't really see them contributing anything of value here in the future.
I expect a period of revenge-stalking, and big-mouthed doubling-down bravado. I'm afraid we're in for some bad loser behavior.
Me? I just want to see a good Democratic candidate take the White House with long coat tails. Whoever it is.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)It's going to be non-stop on how the election was STOLEN because Bernie won ALL of the online clickbait polls and they are real so there is no way he could have lost the actual election. And how the machines flipped votes and links to stupid conspiracy websites.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)DWS/DNC/Oligarchs threads.
But on the positive side ... there will be no HA Goodman OPs, because he will no doubt revert to his Paulian persona, and write an artice entitled, "Progressives Are So Easily Played."
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)I have become mildly obsessed with the Goodmanator. My theory is that HA is not a person. Have you read about the writing programs websites and newspapers use to produce fast and cheap content? Well that is what I think HA is. Someone scans all the random tweets of Bernie Sanders Online Red Brigade for key words and themes, then uses an algorithm to write the cruel and fantastic articles that EXACTLY mirror what the peeps want to hear. It is a self-feeding monster. It's the only possible explanation
I made my own simple version that manufactures mean tweets and drive-by insults based on HA articles and a few of the more bizarre posts I have met here. I would post the link, but would def get a hide for that. It's basically Pejorative Adjective + Hillary Clinton + is the same as OR is worse than OR reminds me of + Republican or Enron or Trump, Etc + random weird insults that have been hurled at me on this site. It works pretty well. If I do another for Clinton supporters, we could completely outsource most of GD: P. More time for cat pictures! I should tell the admins
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)The alert stalking of this community needs to stop.
treestar
(82,383 posts)from the dispassionate observer, DSB. Some of the juries are really biased.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)I am so disappointed in DUers lately. This place is a mess.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)until January 1:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=293052
Really bogus hides too.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But the "I have 3 people on ignore ..." post, made me laugh and spill my beer.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)I looked at the first two, and I'm like how is this hideable.
William769
(55,146 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)In speaking the truth!!
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Sorry to hear about the problems. I have two hides in the past two weeks, which is one more than I had in the previous 12 years. I fully deserved them, but on the other hand, I had never seen that level of bullying and insensitivity here before. I walked into a bravenak thread after having been out for a few months and saw some of the BS that was being posted and I was like WHAAAAAA???? And just blatant, broad brush insults to women all over the place. The old system would have nipped that mess in the bud. But now it is the Wild West I can drop f-bombs and hurl insults with the best of them, but then I get the hide and half the time the other BS stand. Oh well. We can hope that it is better after the primary season is over.
But it may be that this new moderation system does not allow for serious discussion beyond a certain point. The old moderation system was a huuuuge PITA. I really hoped this new one would be successful. I was giving it a chance. But this sucks.
Here is an interesting thing. After my second hide, I strategically hid about five high volume Bernie posters. Not because of anything personal, but because they were basically spamming the board with nonsense and it was getting under my skin. They know better, they just like the attention, so the best thing I can do is not pay attention. And then I hid a few more who stuck out to me as particularly venomous. I also took both candidate forums off my Greatest page (I see new Hillary Clinton threads in my Subscription pane anyway, and can still click over if I want to read the Bernie forum). I also turned of sig lines. They were all blinking and got on my nerves. Anyway, a much better experience. I still get both perspectives, but the volume is turned down to a reasonable level.
Good luck.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Though, I do fear it will not get better after the primaries.
I turned off the sig lines too. What a relief.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)They are not real players anyway. And that will deny the shit-stirrers an audience. There has always been some of this here, especially around primaries.
We shall see how it goes after the primaries. I have had really challenging, brutal discussion here, especially about race. I would absolutely not post half the stuff I did then with the jury system. Some of the stuff I posted then was painful and upsetting but it was legit and within the bounds of what was allowed on this board, so it stood. I would absolutely not trust the jury system to some of those posts. So maybe this is not the right place for me. People are just looking for the quick, easy hit of the Greatest page and will hide anything that makes them feel a teensy bit uncomfortable. That's boring to me. And Facebook does that better anyway. Whatever.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Two of my favorite posters silenced for speaking truth, AND silenced by a pitiful majority with all the self insight mob mentality offers.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)But I get the feeling some folks here don't want us coming out of this group and disrupting the racist threads that are allowed to stand.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I saw that the other day for another user who had received a 7-0 hide.
Does it mean the user is close to being suspended or banned?
Or is that standard procedure for any 7-0 jury decision?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Or, the poster got several hide in a short period of time, so Admins review it for time out or booting.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Many jurors don't take the job seriously, or strive for objectivity; their decisions only reflect their political leanings, or their sometimes limited knowledge of what is being talked about.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)it has been ridiculous for a long time.
I've trashed the Bernie group and GD: P, and proudly and happily been kicked out of the Bernie group.
Thank you for this post.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)l.o.o.s.e.e-2
(53 posts)"DU's alert system is being abused."
^ This ^
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)those who don't agree with them. They don't have the skills, intellectually or verbally and the knowledge to engage in an honest, mature discussion...so they stalk these posters, in hope to drive them away for good.
It's a real ostrich with its head buried in the sand mentality. Drive the posters they can't debate away, and the problem will be gone.
To Bravenak, DBS and anyone having to suffer this idiocy, please, stay strong. We all know they are acting out of desperation. In just a few weeks, reality will burst their bubble. Their fantasy will be over. They know it, so they lash out.
Then this lunacy will be over.
Cha
(297,190 posts)say otherwise.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,233 posts)On Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:54 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
*** Posted to the African-American Group ***
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118734639
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:14 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!" Accusatory phrasing unsupported by any contemporaneous submissions even in view of relevant "alerted" post. Member who was "alerted on" has in excess of 15,000 (fifteen thousand) posts which ostensibly indicates not only commitment to DU but, as well, value to the community herein at large.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter's use of "they" is interesting. And this pointless alert looks like confirmed shameless alert stalking, not even hidden.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree that they are not persecuted victims. There is more reason for the hides than that they are supporting one candidate. And this is meta, plain and simple. It is not appropriate.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)content they want. And I know everyone on this board knows that.
As long as the posts are not against the Terms of Service of this web site which includes personal attacks on other DUers, or posts that advocate violence or criminal activity, there is no reason for ANYBODY to be coming in here trying to hide our posts.
Cha
(297,190 posts)But they'll rec to the hilt an op that smears Hillary supporters as sad that harper lost in Canada.. without any proof or an inkling of evidence.
Then it's not "divisive".. see how that works.
Explanation: "Divisive meta hidden in a group. They're persecuted victims? On DU? Really?!" Accusatory phrasing unsupported by any contemporaneous submissions even in view of relevant "alerted" post. Member who was "alerted on" has in excess of 15,000 (fifteen thousand) posts which ostensibly indicates not only commitment to DU but, as well, value to the community herein at large.
This Alert and subsequent explanation of juror #6 only validates 1Strong's point of the OP. I cannot say more what I think about the alerter and that juror or they'd be swooping right down on my candid ass for the red whine alert!
#Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree that they are not persecuted victims. There is more reason for the hides than that they are supporting one candidate. And this is meta, plain and simple. It is not appropriate.
Oh, it is not "appropriate".. Do tell us all about it. Hear that, 1Strong.. someone on the jury thinks you're not appropriate. Boo*******HOO!
Lest I get alerted on for not being "appropriate".
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,233 posts)Among other things.
Number23
(24,544 posts)This place is gone. GONE with a capital G.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Hmph...that's real special?
and that's about all that I can say.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)Juror # 6 and # 7
Do not ever come in this group - and neither should the alerter.
Meta is allowed in groups - now - Get to stepping.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)To alert on the thread.
But on a positive note, in a time, not so long ago, an alert in this group, of one of my OPs, would have returned a 7-0/6-1 vote to hide ...
That MLK quote about the luke warmness of some liberals, continues to be proven, as other liberals are heatin up to this nonsense.
... or, the alert came during an airing of Dumb & Dumber, and 60% of the 85% were offline.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)Probably the person who I served on a jury this for this morning - and voted to hide. He/She no likey that the person they have accused of 'stalking' them is getting props.
Had it been one of their 'faves' or as Lainey (offsite reference) refers to Leo Dicaprio's latest model(s) - 'bona fide' - this would never have been alerted on.
Furthermore - it would have killed two birds with one stone.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Not with so many trying to twist it into a form of censorship of opinions that people (mostly the hard left) doesn't like.
It's not supposed to be that way. But the admin team don't do near enough to remove jury privileges from people who are toxic jurors.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Cha
(297,190 posts)I damn well sure hope the Admins received the Alert on that explanation.. loud and clear.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)My "fifth" hide there a while back was for saying that 'a racist-flag waver doesn't have any business talking about the race card'. The guy literally had (and still has) a Confederate flag as his logo, which is absolutely 100% racist - used as the emblem of the KKK for nearly a century. But it got a hide.
Skinner is wrong to think that a "community" of reasonable people form around political discussion groups. It seems to only attract the absolute wingnuts, who have basically nothing interesting at all to say. If I want to read alternet, or listen to Rush, I'll go there directly. No need to come here to hear people parroting things - especially things that aren't actually true.
But heaven forfend you tell them a little truth, even obliquely. They get all offended by it. And try to abuse the jury system, alert stalk, etc.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Cha
(297,190 posts)it rwingers are in the majority there and they're ruling the jury system!?
LOL SOL! They are your masters.. kneel!
But ".. Punch the Alerted in the face" is very violently bad anywhere. And, It doesn't matter if they're rwinger or whomever.. anyone who alerts and then hides to censor anyone else's pov doesn't belong in the jury system.
Vulgar posts should be hidden but the posts I've seen hidden are just expressing their POV.
If someone fucking laughs the wrong way they're up for grabs with the Alert Squad on DU.
Your post is a perfect example of assholes in charge. Ooooops!
betsuni
(25,482 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)In solidarity.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)seriously, they can f*** themselves
LoveMyCali
(2,015 posts)I rarely post anyway but there isn't really much of interest to even read these days.
When I first joined DU it really was a place to gain knowledge even if I disagreed with the viewpoint of a poster there was thought provoking articles to back up statements. Things have certainly changed.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Gods, I can hardly wait for this to be over.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)To Bravenak & DSB, I admire you both and am proud to count myself among the many DUers who do.
Whatever may happen to either or both of you on DU so long as the current silliness is allowed to run rampant and trump reason, please know that I will be glad to be counted among your supporters.
Kudos also to 1SBM and the AA group for consistently providing some of the best discourse anywhere on DU!
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Shameful times on DU. Love both of them and the attempts to silence them are doing noone any favors. Thanks for an opportunity to throw some support their way.
Laser102
(816 posts)LexVegas
(6,060 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)about Bravenak. I sent her a message on twitter, hopefully to cheer her up.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is if the admins get involved. The current "moderating" system blows big time.