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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:27 AM Jul 2013

Maybe, I'm just ...

ODS-shocked (or DU whipped), but isn't this:

no. that barack obama became the first black president is simply a matter of timing. someone would be first, he was there with backers when the party decided to run a black candidate (which itself was a product of political calculations). the rarity has nothing in particular to do with BO's specialness, it's a product of history.

as for people coming out of harvard law & becoming senators, presidents, whatever -- it happens often enough to fill the limited slots.



Is the above NOT dangerously damned close to calling President Obama "just an Affirmative Action hire"?

{Here is the thread for context: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3163484}

And as a Whine Pre-emptive: I am calling out the above as a racist, but I'm am shocked to see this argument on DU ... I distinctly recall so many DUers up in arms when the right made this same argument in 2008 ... that Barack Obama was nothing special; he just happened to be an available Black man when the Democratic party needed a Black man.

My how things and places change.

But that said: someone ... anyone ... Please tell me I've mis-read that post.
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Maybe, I'm just ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 OP
+1 Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #1
Ironically, we're also being told that Obama is a Nazi now too. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #2
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #3
You didn't JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #4
And this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #5
Oh, and you saw the response you got when you mentioned that some only like needy, downtrodden Number23 Jul 2013 #7
So true JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #9
The lunatics that squat in GD have been saying this and much more about this president Number23 Jul 2013 #6
Point taken n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #8

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. Ironically, we're also being told that Obama is a Nazi now too.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jul 2013

That was another right wing attack that was common from 2008 through President Obama's first term.

Folks on DU used to mock right wingers for making such accusations. Now we see DU members making that claim.

I don't think you misread anything.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
3. +1
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

I almost posted one of those pics in a BOG thread to make fun of those who say we "bow down to authori-Teh!" but didn't want to shit in a positive place.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
4. You didn't
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3166706

And as another poster said on your thread . . . But with my own nuance.

"Some" people are only comfortable with the black American experience when the narrative includes shoe shine men and laundresses. Or in today's world - black youth on the South side of Chicago or black, single mothers in Camden NJ.

Now Obama wasn't "poor enough" and is being punished for his mother's and grandmother's accomplishments.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. And this ...
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jul 2013

is where I agree with some conservatives, in their criticism of SOME ... PRE-EMPTIVE NOTE: I said SOME, as in NOT all, but SOME ... liberals.

Some liberals are only happy with thinking about Black folks, when they are saving Black folks (or telling Black folks what and how to think).

Number23

(24,544 posts)
7. Oh, and you saw the response you got when you mentioned that some only like needy, downtrodden
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jul 2013

black people and that Negroes with intellect, ambition and (Heaven forbid!) MONEY are an entirely different animal?

Oh girl, the INDIGNATION! The sputtering!! I expected someone to actually HARRUMPH you!

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
9. So true
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:27 AM
Jul 2013

Sad - but true!

But on a side note - I love graham4anything on the thread we are discussing. My husband reads a great deal here but does not post as English is not his first language. He read 1strng's thread yesterday and was like: Can I have these guys for Sunday dinner?

1strng - If you are ever in Central NJ I suspect you are going to have home made gnocchi and salsicchia stuffed down your gullet in solidarity!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
6. The lunatics that squat in GD have been saying this and much more about this president
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jul 2013

since before he was even sworn into office.

Why do you think so few of us still post on this web site? Why so few of us start OPs anyplace but in this group? Why even fewer have stars next to our names?

There has been a loud and libertarian meme for YEARS that he was merely a vessel for the Powers that Be. That he is an "empty suit" and a "slave" to the 1%. People here openly and loudly question his intelligence on a regular basis.

You see the polls and hear from actual liberals and Obama has a 85%+ approval rate. But yet, somehow, on the Intertubes where people can scream all day long about how "liberal" they are and then go and smoke a joint listening to their favorite Ron Paul speech, all of the liberals hate him and consider him a conservative. I don't buy it and never have.

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