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JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:29 AM Nov 2015

Minneapolis MN - 5 people shot at Jamar Clark death at Police Force hands BLM Protests

Background - last week Jamar Clark was shot during a "struggle" with the police. Witnesses to his death are stating he was handcuffed and shot execution style in the head.

http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/24/police-at-least-3-shot-near-fourth-precinct-protest/76298300/

MINNEAPOLIS - Minneapolis Police tell KARE 11 at least five people were shot near protests at the Fourth Precinct.

Reports of a shooting surfaced around 10:45 p.m. Monday in the 1400 block of Morgan Avenue North, about a block north of the Fourth Precinct.

At this time, it is not clear on the exact number of people shot as some shooting victims found their own way to a hospital. Police tell KARE 11 five people are being treated for what are believed to be non-life threatening injuries, two people at Hennepin County Medical Center and three others at North Memorial Hospital. Police have not released any information on a possible suspect or suspects.

A photographer with Ruptly captured some of the first images following the shooting.

2 black men just got shot in Minneapolis at #4thPrecinctShutDownpic.twitter.com/aS1GjXqVG3
— Lorena de la Cuesta (@LorenadlaCuesta) November 24, 2015
Prayers near protests at 4th Precinct. Police say 3 people shot & hospitalized w/ non-life threatening injuries pic.twitter.com/WUPfk1douU
— Boyd Huppert (@BoydHuppert) November 24, 2015
Update: MPLS PD now says 5 people shot near 4th Precinct protest. Count has risen as additional victims have driven to hospitals.
— Boyd Huppert (@BoydHuppert) November 24, 2015


Heavy.com has a heavily graphic timeline of last nights shootings - but I can't get my first generation iPad to fully load all of the images without closing my browser.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/minneapolis-jamar-clark-4th-police-precinct-protests-shooting-shots-fired-white-supremacists-victims-suspects-injuries-photos-video-black-lives-matter

Evidently there were reports of White Supremacists threatening the protestors last week. Last night three white men (per reports) in masks and wearing bullet proof vests opened fire.

Here's where I'm at . . .

In light of the verdict in the Trayvon Martin and Freddie Gray murder trials - I'm believing it. All of it.

My default setting is -

Jamar Clark was handcuffed - any struggle would have been futile on his part. He was murdered.

The three gun men will claim thy feared for their lives and that's why they shot five people at a protest that they had no business being at in the first place. Many people in America are going to make up shit in their dumb assed prejudiced fearful little feeble minds that justifies White Supremacists being at anything having to do with Mr. Clark's death. Gird your loins for that one.

We need to treat these W.S. groups as domestic terrorists.

BLM has the high ground.

We can't retreat - we must double down. BLM is getting to them. These types have buttons all over them and BLM pushes that one, and that one - oops ! Missed one. There's another on his ankle. Don't miss the one on his left knuckle . . .
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Minneapolis MN - 5 people shot at Jamar Clark death at Police Force hands BLM Protests (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 OP
I believe it too. bravenak Nov 2015 #1
One more thought JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #2
No shit. This is life or death. bravenak Nov 2015 #4
I posted this to Falcon yesterday - it still holds true JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #6
We fight harder cause we have no choice. bravenak Nov 2015 #8
We are easy targets JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #9
Damn, that really is scary shit. bravenak Nov 2015 #10
We truly need to get past that. brer cat Nov 2015 #14
Plus a fucking billion. There are some here that only type the fucking letters BLM when Number23 Nov 2015 #31
Here's another MSM report of the BLM shooting by the armed white guys. pnwmom Nov 2015 #3
Thanks! C/P from this - JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #5
* pnwmom Nov 2015 #7
How is this not terrorism? :( Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #11
All I've got is . . . JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #12
Racism runs so deep in our country. wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #13
You should have reported his ass for threatening the President. 7962 Nov 2015 #16
I believe it. brer cat Nov 2015 #15
I really do not want to hear "but racism is dead" today at all. Racism is terrorism. Racists are... marble falls Nov 2015 #17
They are terrorists ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #18
Psycho cops and white supremacy.... blackspade Nov 2015 #19
The big question is where the heck were the police? JimDandy Nov 2015 #20
Witnesses say that cops stood by and laughed without rendering aid at first, Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #24
Disgusting. JimDandy Nov 2015 #25
I'm a white male sleepyvoter Nov 2015 #21
Heartbreaking gollygee Nov 2015 #22
Black lives matter. lovemydog Nov 2015 #23
Wait, WHAT> BLM is being gunned down and it isnt in GD a hundred times over, did this randys1 Nov 2015 #26
I think heaven05 Nov 2015 #27
Video showing a supremacist entering an alleged state Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #28
I just don't even have words to describe what this feels like rbrnmw Nov 2015 #29
Of course we believe it. We all know how this country operates. Number23 Nov 2015 #30

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
2. One more thought
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:38 AM
Nov 2015

This is not about the Sanders v Clinton battle.

I'm sick and tired of the supporters of both using our deaths, rapes, dime rides, murders to score political points. Enough!

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
6. I posted this to Falcon yesterday - it still holds true
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:51 AM
Nov 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=32971

I've said before - with all due respect to the anti plutocrat, oligarch, corporate whore fascist overlords crowd - black folks KNOW. We have had HUGE wins staring with about 50 years ago when President Johnson made damn sure we were American Citizens. 100 years prior to that - we endured. 

This is why the movement needs to be lead by black folks. WE KNOW how to put BIG WINS on the BOARD! 

If we don't hold the line (and the little pups in BLM that are heads - women and lesbian included) - things will get worse for all groups who have benefitted from that leadership. 

For women, for the GLBT community, for the poor, for the marginalized, for our New Americans, for the UU Church in TN, the Sikh temple, the Mosque, the Synagogue . . . stick with us.


We KNOW what we are doing and me? I'm handing this over to you guys - you millenials. Millenials are leading this fight and you have 150 years of "knowledge" behind you. I've got BLM's back - because they will hold the line not only for black folks - AND push the line FORWARD - but for all of the other "Others" too!
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
8. We fight harder cause we have no choice.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:54 AM
Nov 2015

I feel as if many want to use that for themselves, we saw that this summer. It is time for us to get educated, get organized and fight this shit once and for all.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
9. We are easy targets
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:04 AM
Nov 2015

This was 7 years ago - I'm a UU in very good standing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting

This guy was no different than the three suspects. Only difference was he used the word "liberals"

Dear The Left,

Wake the hell up!

Love,

Citizen JAG

brer cat

(24,574 posts)
14. We truly need to get past that.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:11 AM
Nov 2015

It transcends any person or campaign, and we don't need a circular firing squad over these murders or the BLM movement.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
31. Plus a fucking billion. There are some here that only type the fucking letters BLM when
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

they think it can be used to help or hurt one of the candidates. Fuck them.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
3. Here's another MSM report of the BLM shooting by the armed white guys.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:43 AM
Nov 2015

There's hardly any coverage, though.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/11/24/shooting-at-4th-precinct-leaves-5-protesters-hospitalized/

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Five protesters are hospitalized after a shooting at the 4th Precinct Monday night, according to police.

Witnesses at the scene say the shooters were white supremacists, and were hanging around the rally before others asked them to leave. The witnesses said the men came back a short time later and fired six shots at protesters just north of the precinct, on the 1400 block of Morgan Avenue North.

All five victims are being treated for non-life-threatening injuries at North Memorial Medical Center. Police say the three suspects are still at large.

SNIP

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
5. Thanks! C/P from this -
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:46 AM
Nov 2015


MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Five protesters are hospitalized after a shooting at the 4th Precinct Monday night, according to police.

Witnesses at the scene say the shooters were white supremacists, and were hanging around the rally before others asked them to leave. The witnesses said the men came back a short time later and fired six shots at protesters just north of the precinct, on the 1400 block of Morgan Avenue North.

All five victims are being treated for non-life-threatening injuries at North Memorial Medical Center. Police say the three suspects are still at large.

A crowd gathered at the scene after the shooting, and emotions were running high.


And a special message to you - Don't let them lessen the depth of tenderness you have in your heart for those who are victims of this nonsense by distracting you with nonsense arguments.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
7. *
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:53 AM
Nov 2015

You are right. I shouldn't let myself get distracted by their constant efforts to change the subject. BLM isn't about anyone's candidate for President.

With regard to BLM, I respond as a mother and friend. I know how afraid I would be to send my kids out into this world if they were targets just because of their skin color. . . it's hard enough as it is.

Thanks for your kind words. And thanks for all your work here!

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)
13. Racism runs so deep in our country.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:32 AM
Nov 2015

Yesterday I had a co-worker go off on Obama and say that he should be shot. I told him that he was a ******** un American ******** and that he should be ashamed of himself. Where is the outrage in the Republican party at the remarks the donald trump is making that are fanning the flames of hatred? There are a lot of sick people in our society and they must not be encouraged.

I hope that no one was seriously injured and that this will be a wakeup call for people to address these problems.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. You should have reported his ass for threatening the President.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:53 AM
Nov 2015

Even the people I know who are on the other side have never gone that far. Matter of fact, I remember them talking about the secret service being screwed up after that guy got into the WHite House. None of them said "wished he'd got to obama" because even they know thats STUPID. That just puts us in 3rd world status

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
17. I really do not want to hear "but racism is dead" today at all. Racism is terrorism. Racists are...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:17 AM
Nov 2015

terrorists.

ismnotwasm

(41,988 posts)
18. They are terrorists
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:22 AM
Nov 2015

In the precise definition of the word. Terrorists.

On edit--this is from a FB friend of mind a week ago:


Im sorry For,all the loss ,and suffering by the people of Paris,But everytime A police car pulls behind me,I quickly remember That Terrorism is a live and well ,right here in a america

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
19. Psycho cops and white supremacy....
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

What could go wrong?

There is no justice or rule of law if you are black in this country.
Only a roll of the (loaded) dice.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
20. The big question is where the heck were the police?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:28 AM
Nov 2015

They push the "peace officers" phrasing on all of us, but when it comes time to for it to be more than words, they are nowhere around.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
24. Witnesses say that cops stood by and laughed without rendering aid at first,
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nov 2015

saying things like "Well, this is what you were asking for/wanted out of this." Not a direct quote, but the flavor. Sick.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
25. Disgusting.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

And they can hide, as always, behind court rulings that allow them to not be held responsible, if they don't attempt to prevent a crime.

 

sleepyvoter

(42 posts)
21. I'm a white male
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:21 AM
Nov 2015

my heart is with these protesters. I just learned of this when waking up this morning. I hope justice will be served.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
22. Heartbreaking
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:59 AM
Nov 2015

They ARE terrorists.

This is such a huge deal but it doesn't seem to be getting as much attention as I would have thought it would, and that makes me wonder what's going on with people.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Wait, WHAT> BLM is being gunned down and it isnt in GD a hundred times over, did this
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:42 PM
Nov 2015

happen this week, i am confused

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. I think
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

we are heading, culturally, toward the reality that black people are going to have to fight again against the trump brownshirts and it won't be pretty. I feel bad for the citizens of this country and for the direction in which this society is heading. The racists, left and right, against everyone else that will stand against them. They have been emboldened by trump and his racist, fascist patter.....oh well, they will reap what he sows.Fuck em.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
29. I just don't even have words to describe what this feels like
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:04 PM
Nov 2015

it's the worst kind of hurt anger and helplessness.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
30. Of course we believe it. We all know how this country operates.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:09 PM
Nov 2015

So people are actively shooting at BLM activists now?? Anyone surprised by this, especially after the idiocy at the Trump event last week??

This is so fucking psychotic. I am just glad that apparently none of the activists suffered life threatening injuries. This time.

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