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Tim Wise hits it out of the park, once again (Original Post) SemperEadem Jan 2012 OP
This is going to be ignored DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #1
probably here it will SemperEadem Jan 2012 #4
a good essay, barbtries Jan 2012 #2
Stress under autocratic society in general is bad. tabatha Jan 2012 #3
"People who sit in judgement of people who have been oppressed Number23 Jan 2012 #6
White Privilege ForeverLiberal Feb 2012 #9
Great read, Semper Number23 Jan 2012 #5
Have you read this post by bigtree? SemperEadem Jan 2012 #7
yes he has. thank you so much for posting that, SemperEadem! nofurylike Feb 2012 #8

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. This is going to be ignored
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jan 2012

Esopecially by people who speak of race as if it has been done to death. Of course, never mind that when I tell people I am Puerto Rican, they give me the look normally given to thieves that somehow got past a burglar alarm.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
4. probably here it will
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jan 2012

but I got the link off of facebook and it has 179 likes so far... not to mention, he tweets (and they are searingly truthful).

The conversation's merits are never determined by those who give up engaging in the dialogue. It's not up to them if the topic is or ever will be done to death enough for everyone's satisfaction. It's called "taking your ass whippin' while standing in your 'so-called' truth". Part of being an adult.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
3. Stress under autocratic society in general is bad.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jan 2012

This is how South African Blacks lived for 200 years.

A Libyan who went into exile away from Gaddafi, wrote that he would not be surprised if a large number of Libyans had mental health issues, after living for so long being afraid to talk.

People who sit in judgement of people who have been oppressed, have absolutely no idea of what is like.

I remember a Black South African friend who was always cheerful (as most of them were even under oppression), who showed me the deep, dark anger hidden away when we talked about the government. It came as a shock, because I had never seen that side. As we talking in the dark evening outside near her tiny kaia, about her worries about her son turning into a tsotsi and the fact that she could not afford to see a doctor about her leg, and the impact of the government, she shook her hand in anger in the sky in the direction of Pretoria. The anger was palpable.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
6. "People who sit in judgement of people who have been oppressed
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jan 2012

have absolutely no idea of what is like."

Love that, tabatha.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
5. Great read, Semper
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jan 2012

This bit is critical:

What matters is that at no point would I, a white man, ever have to fear as I travelled that or any other interstate or road anywhere in my country, that my color alone might trigger sufficient suspicion in the eyes of law enforcement so as to warrant a stop, even when I had done nothing illegal. That is not a luxury possessed by anyone who is black or Latino in this country — their country — and that matters.

nofurylike

(8,775 posts)
8. yes he has. thank you so much for posting that, SemperEadem!
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:16 AM
Feb 2012

a whole other part of the genocide.
not even to mention the health devastation caused by suppressed rage.



really looking at this, feeling what it says even from outside of having to LIVE it, is mind-blowing:

... And while these may appear to most whites as momentary discomforts with no larger import, imagine those kinds of experiences happening not once or twice, but regularly over a year, two years, a life. Imagine the uncertainty, the trepidation, the second-guessing of every glance, comment, or stare, made necessary by a lifetime lived in self-defense mode, the need for keen observation and interpretation of the most mundane interracial encounters made as critical to your safety and survival as nutrition, as vital as love.

See, that’s what race means, even now, and that is what (among so many other things) gives the lie to all claims of post-raciality made by those who refuse to feel what people of color are all too willing to tell them, if only they could hear.


all enraging and heartbreaking ....

but then, to consider LIVING it .... !!!


thank you, again, more, SemperEadem
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