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(47,479 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:47 PM Oct 2017

Shelve any plans for the extra Social Security payments

From the WSJ - but you can find it in other places, I am sure:

While the final figure on the premium increase won’t be announced immediately—the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services last year released it in November—the 2% bump is likely to result in higher premiums for some 70% of Medicare beneficiaries.

The reason is a provision of the Social Security Act called hold-harmless. It prevents Medicare from passing along any premium increase greater than the dollar increase in Social Security payments to the estimated 70% of beneficiaries who typically qualify for hold-harmless treatment.

Because the cost-of-living adjustment has been low for the past two years, Medicare has been forced to spread much of the projected increase in its costs across the remaining 30%—a group that includes those who pay higher premiums because of their higher incomes, those who are new to Medicare, and those who receive Medicare but have deferred or aren’t eligible for Social Security benefits. That 30% has seen its base premium rise from $104.90 in 2015 to $134 in 2017, even as premiums for the rest increased less than $5, on average.

With the larger adjustment in 2018, Medicare can spread its costs across a much larger group of beneficiaries. This summer, Medicare’s trustees projected a standard premium of $134 in 2018.

If that projection holds, the 30% of Medicare beneficiaries who are already paying $134 a month won’t see any increase. But the remaining 70% are likely to pay significantly more. And for the average Social Security recipient, $25 of the average $27.38 increase in Social Security would go to covering the rise in Medicare.

If the premium increases by as much as the Medicare trustees forecast, “for a lot of people that could effectively mean they won’t see much of that Social Security benefit increase,” said Juliette Cubanski, associate director of the program on Medicare policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation

https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-security-benefits-expected-to-get-2-boost-in-2018-1507899667

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Shelve any plans for the extra Social Security payments (Original Post) question everything Oct 2017 OP
Gee what will my Great Aunt do not getting that extra $20 dollars? redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #1
Great Aunt is lucky to have a loving family question everything Oct 2017 #4
She spent her life cleaning other people's houses and taking care of their kids so SS is all she has redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #5
This article explained that for most, and it sounds like for your aunt, Medicare premiums marybourg Oct 2017 #8
Been waiting for this shoe to drop. Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #2
They know we vote for Democrats and they want us dead. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #6
We live in a mostly Senior Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #7
"Older but NOT wiser" seems to be their motto. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #9
So friggin true. Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #10
I am getting ready to lose everything and not to long from now. Doreen Oct 2017 #3
I hope you will not question everything Oct 2017 #12
I'll have a small increase in the take home amount of Social Security Yonnie3 Oct 2017 #11

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. Gee what will my Great Aunt do not getting that extra $20 dollars?
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

Of course the medicare premiums will go up 50 which could damage her, except her loving great nieces and nephews send her a few bucks every month so she can eat and keep a roof over her head.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
4. Great Aunt is lucky to have a loving family
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

This is something that many, who look at Social Security and Medicare as "give away for seniors" don't realize:

Many of us remember when an elderly, or a sick relative moved to live with us. We squeezed, no MacMansion then, not even "average" 2,000 sq ft homes. But we knew that when their source of income disappeared, or when they could not live alone, that family member had to step in.

Thus, the ones who bad mouth the "benefits" should realize that were it not for these programs, they would have to stop it. Or would they?

shudder..

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
8. This article explained that for most, and it sounds like for your aunt, Medicare premiums
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

can't go up more than the SS increase.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. We live in a mostly Senior
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:29 PM
Oct 2017

Golf Community,and being a active Dem,both in registering and getting out the vote. We only have six registered Dems out of four thousand Community members. These people will continue to vote against their best interests until they croak. Most are Retired Military and California Government Persons.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. So friggin true.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:18 PM
Oct 2017

Tea Billy heaven complete with Golf Carts. One thing about it,we have the lowest crime rate in the Valley.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
3. I am getting ready to lose everything and not to long from now.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:12 PM
Oct 2017

Well, there is not much I can do to get ready as I do not have the money to save. I am sure there are a lot of people like me who are right here on DU.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
12. I hope you will not
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:35 PM
Oct 2017

I hope that you have resources - family and friends - or social services that can help.

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
11. I'll have a small increase in the take home amount of Social Security
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:46 PM
Oct 2017

It will all be absorbed by an 8.7% increase in my supplemental policy and by a 15% increase in my prescription policy. Not to mention a higher deductible on the Rx policy.

I haven't looked at the numbers close enough to estimate exactly how much less disposable income I will have in 2018, but it is significantly less.

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