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unhappycamper

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:15 AM Feb 2013

The Atrocity Lessons: What the U.S. Military Learned From Vietnam

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/21/the-atrocity-lessons-what-the-us-military-learned-from-vietnam.html

The Atrocity Lessons: What the U.S. Military Learned From Vietnam
Feb 21, 2013 4:45 AM EST
By Jake Whitney

In March 1969, American helicopters flying over a western part of South Vietnam spotted a group of Vietnamese cutting wood. Circling the group, the Americans grew angry when none of the woodcutters looked up. But the Vietnamese had good reason. American policy held that if a Vietnamese looked at a hovering chopper, he must be Viet Cong. The Americans began dropping canisters of tear gas, which ignited a blaze. When the woodcutters turned to flee, the Americans blasted away with rockets and machine guns, leveling the forest and killing all but one of them.



Smoke rises from burning villages as a Junker 52 from the French Air Force drops its load of 100-pound bombs over suspected Communist Viet Minh positions on March 16, 1951, some 100 miles north of Hanoi.

The eight dead Vietnamese were recorded as "enemy killed in action" by the Americans, but an investigation revealed that the group was solely unarmed civilians, a woman and a child among them. Nevertheless, no American was punished for their murders. Why? The soldiers were simply following policy, which said that if Vietnamese ran, they must be Viet Cong.

Nick Turse uses the woodcutters' story to develop the signal themes of his book, Kill Anything That Moves that American atrocities happened everywhere in Vietnam and often without provocation, that Pentagon policy was the primary cause, and that most civilian deaths were the result of a reckless overuse of modern weaponry. Turse has received wide acclaim for revealing the vast extent of American atrocities and for obliterating the notion that "a few bad apples" were responsible. He tells of Americans shelling entire provinces, searching for a single sniper; using civilians for target practice; and committing mass shootings, rapes, corpse mutilations, and disfiguring children with napalm and phosphorus bombs.

While many of these stories are told sparsely, others are recounted in excruciating detail by a surviving victim. There's the story of Bui Thi Huong, for example, who was 18 years old in 1966 when Marines ransacked her home. After five soldiers gang-raped her, they shot her and her sick husband and four other family members, including their 3-year-old son and a 5-year-old girl. As the Marines covered up the scene, they discovered the 5-year-old still breathing, so one soldier lifted his rifle and, as the others counted in unison, smashed her with the butt until she died.



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The Atrocity Lessons: What the U.S. Military Learned From Vietnam (Original Post) unhappycamper Feb 2013 OP
I just recently downloaded this book to my Kindle... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #1
"Nevertheless, no American was punished for their murders" and LBJ was allowed to retire to Texas Leslie Valley Feb 2013 #2
I was actually talking about the sending in advisers into Mali at work Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #5
WAR IS AN ATROCITY MindMover Feb 2013 #3
k & R cause more people need to see this nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #4
 

Leslie Valley

(310 posts)
2. "Nevertheless, no American was punished for their murders" and LBJ was allowed to retire to Texas
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 02:01 PM
Feb 2013

after lying us into an expansion of the conflict with his phony Gulf of Tonkin "Incident".

And now we're helping out the French again, this time in Mali. Oh sure it's only a "few advisers" and we must guard against a "Domino Effect" on the continent of Africa. (familiar words?)

I'm 65 years old, this is where I came in. Why isn't anybody in the streets?

I grow weary.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. I was actually talking about the sending in advisers into Mali at work
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:37 AM
Feb 2013

I wasn't alive during Vietnam, but this sounds an awfully a lot like I remember reading about the build-up in Vietnam in school.

With Iraq and Afghanistan winding down, we need to do something with our military to justify keeping our spending elevated like it is.

People aren't in the streets because most people don't have any skin in the game. Additionally, the real scope of violence is never shown on our TV. People aren't outraged because they don't care.

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