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unhappycamper

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Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:04 PM Jan 2013

Torture is trivial

http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-jensen/47659/torture-is-trivial

Torture is trivial
by Robert Jensen | January 18, 2013 - 10:00am

The great American torture debate has been rekindled by the nationwide release of “Zero Dark Thirty,” the hot new movie about the CIA’s hunt for Osama bin Laden.

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Let me be clear: I don’t support torture. I think torture is immoral. I think government officials who ordered or condoned torture should be held accountable. Torture crosses a line that should not be crossed.

But when I look at the decade since 9/11, torture is hardly the greatest crime of the U.S. war machine. Since 9/11, the United States has helped destroy two countries with, at best, sketchy moral and legal justification. The invasion of Afghanistan was connected to the crimes of 9/11, at least at first, but quickly devolved into a nonsensical occupation. The invasion of Iraq, which was clearly illegal, was a scandal of unprecedented scale, even by the standards of past U.S. invasions and covert operations.

While the Iraq war is over (sort of) and the Afghanistan war is coming to an end (sort of) the United States is also at war in Pakistan and Iran. The U.S. routinely unleashes murderous drone strikes in Pakistani territory, and we can assume that covert operations against Iran, such as the cyber-attack with a powerful computer virus, continue even though Iran poses no serious threat to the United States.
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Torture is trivial (Original Post) unhappycamper Jan 2013 OP
I get the author's point, but his title is awful. nt Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #1
torture only works in MOVIES + TEEVEE. pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #2
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