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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:08 AM Aug 2015

GOP’s Favorite Socialist Program Lost $8.5 Trillion And Will Bankrupt America

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GOP’s Favorite Socialist Program Lost $8.5 Trillion And Will Bankrupt America
By: Rmuse
Saturday, August, 22nd, 2015, 9:40 am

For several years, if not decades, Republicans have, and still do, claim that any American who is not anti-government, anti-taxation, anti-women’s rights, anti-immigration, anti-theocracy, and anti-democracy is a raving socialist. Yesterday Ted Cruz accused Hillary Clinton of being a “wild-eyed socialist” who will do serious damage to America, and it is so typical for a Republican to use that term because they know most Americans are ignorant of what socialism entails. Socialism is simply “an economic and political system where all major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual companies or people, or a societal system in which there is no private property.” Obviously, neither Hillary Clinton, nor any Democrat supports or advocates for socialism, including Senator Bernie Sanders who claims to be a democratic socialist. In fact, democratic socialism is “a political ideology involving a combination of political democracy with government ownership and control of all major industries.” Bernie Sanders is not any kind of socialist; not even a democratic socialist.

What most Americans are woefully ignorant of is that there is a socialistic program that Republicans not only advocate for, they are never at a loss for investing more taxpayer dollars into it with no return except for a growing deficit; one that will eventually break America like the former Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War. To make matters that much worse, and it is that much worse, the GOP’s favorite socialist program has completely lost track of where $8.5 trillion in taxpayer and borrowed money because the Department of Defense has no accountability to the American people or apparently the government that owns and operates it. The worst part is that despite this country’s only wasteful, unaccountable, and out-of-control socialistic program, Republicans want to sink more of Americans’ tax dollars into the defense budget.

It was barely reported again last January that after Congress had just allotted well over half the entire annual federal budget for the military, that the Department of Defense could not account for over $8.5 trillion between 2000 and 2012. In 2005, for example, the Department of Defense had contracts worth a bit over $3 trillion with various businesses, but the United States Treasury Department could not find any record of how those trillions of dollars, both taxpayer money and trillions borrowed, was actually spent. Apparently, it is a common Pentagon practice to “regularly cheat on its accounting books” by submitting a falsely balanced budget to the Treasury; in 2012 the Pentagon falsely reported “$9.22 billion to reconcile its spending with its budget.” And Republicans want to give the Defense Department even more money than over half the nation’s spending.

It is not that the Defense Department (DoD) is not required to do a full accounting of where every single penny of borrowed and taxpayer money goes. In 1990, Congress passed a then-new federal law requiring all government agencies to be audited, but the Pentagon, the only American socialist entity, is the only government agency that has failed to comply with the law because it is the military, national defense, support the troops, patriotism and war on terror. In fact, for the very same reason the DoD is allowed to lose $8.5 trillion without a national outcry is why Republicans constantly demand more money for the military.
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GOP’s Favorite Socialist Program Lost $8.5 Trillion And Will Bankrupt America (Original Post) unhappycamper Aug 2015 OP
We didn't win the arms race; the Soviets just lost first. Scuba Aug 2015 #1
+1 daleanime Aug 2015 #2
It's all prep for the upcoming war with the flying saucers.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #14
+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #16
we'll win our Russian Cross first: soon the ambulances will be converted to taxis MisterP Aug 2015 #20
The DOD is a cash cow that enriches specific interests. Wave that flag! jalan48 Aug 2015 #3
^^^This^^^ In a sentence. -none Aug 2015 #4
Love your screen name! CrispyQ Aug 2015 #10
Thank you. -none Aug 2015 #19
Given how it is intrenched throughout the congressional districts, it is impossible to fix. Hoppy Aug 2015 #5
It does not sound in the least bit plausible, does it? $8.5 trillion? Billions Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #6
$8.5 TRILLION. It's almost beyond comprehension. CrispyQ Aug 2015 #12
Wow! Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #22
Didn't anyone listen to Eisenhower RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #7
I think they listened, then invested. CrispyQ Aug 2015 #13
And let's not forget the "PLANELOADS"............................. turbinetree Aug 2015 #8
+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #17
It's good to know our elderly are willing to live in the streets to help the military protect them. L0oniX Aug 2015 #9
Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Love - The Military Industrial Complex - A Certified Cash Cow cantbeserious Aug 2015 #11
It's All About The .01% Getting Paid Yallow Aug 2015 #15
Even worse. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #18
We need change that only Sen Sanders can deliver. H. Clinton and the billionaires are more than rhett o rick Aug 2015 #21

-none

(1,884 posts)
4. ^^^This^^^ In a sentence.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:10 AM
Aug 2015

That is the problem. That is our sacred cow and nobody had better harm it, or the bodies will start showing up on their own door steps.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
5. Given how it is intrenched throughout the congressional districts, it is impossible to fix.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:36 AM
Aug 2015

Pentagon spending is directed to states throughout the nation. Pick a program to defund and the representative where that money is spend begins howling and threatens to vote to defund spending in districts where other programs are up for a vote.

Then, consider the revolving door between retiring Pentagon officials and defense contractors.


Where it gets hilarious is that the purpose of the money is to protect us from the Russians and the Chinese. Money to fund this bullshit comes from Chinese buying bonds.

So, are the Chinese likely to attack us?

Lets figure this for a minute. If I owe you $5,000., I have a problem. If I owe you $500,000., you have a problem (boy, do you have a problem). If the later is real and you cripple me so I can't work, you have an even bigger problem....



What have Bernie and Hillary said about this?

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
6. It does not sound in the least bit plausible, does it? $8.5 trillion? Billions
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:37 AM
Aug 2015

would stretch credulity.

And yet it's evidently true. When you reflect on the US military, you find yourself entering a Catch 22 kind of world, in which, you may remember, they sold cotton-covered chocolates to Luftwaffe bomber pilots, in exchange for permission to bomb their US base. I don't mean that in any kind of literal way; but metaphorically.

I heard tell of a large company in the UK whose replacement auditor died in mysterious circumstances, after he'd found massive fraud in the company's accounts. And that's the UK in peace-time. I wouldn't want to audit the military budget of the US

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. Didn't anyone listen to Eisenhower
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:46 AM
Aug 2015

when he warned us of the increasing military-industrial complex?
I often wonder.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
8. And let's not forget the "PLANELOADS".............................
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:05 AM
Aug 2015

of MOOLA / PAYOLLA going over to IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN authorized by one of the team criminals by the name of RUMSFELD, and the entire (Shock and Awe----Jock Strapped flight suit hypocrite) Bush Crime Family & TEAM and the same dirt bag RUMSFELD telling a solider that to up armor the trucks and other lightly fortified vehicles that would in the end kill over 4,685 human beings, "You go into war with what you got" (so go out into the scrap yard that killed your buddy and use and fortify your vehicle with shoddy destroyed materiel), and it was costing not counting the "PLANELOADS" of bribery money to the corrupt IRAQ and Afghan governments over 100 million a day, they lost over in some estimates 1 TRILLION in taxpayer dollars on those "PLANELOADS", which to this day is unaccounted for.

So my answer is to go after these hypocrites retirement checks and there pay checks that we the country are paying and start with them (Bush and the criminal team) paying off this industrial complex debt, and "all", and I mean "all" that supported and voted for this crap--------------------I want our money back--------------44 million children in this country have NO FOOD or HOUSING, and over 4.5 MILLION are not getting UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS -----------------today (they are standing on the street corners with cardboard signs---------begging for food or work)




Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. Even worse.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:21 PM
Aug 2015

In that time, even with all that money, the US military never protected the nation from any threat. To begin with there were very few tangible threats. 9/11 was a LIHOP operation at least, probably worse. It could have been stopped at any time.

Ever wonder if they have another false flag operation planned for 9/11 this year. Maybe they can claim it was done by Iran.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. We need change that only Sen Sanders can deliver. H. Clinton and the billionaires are more than
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:19 PM
Aug 2015

happy with the staus quo.

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