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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:04 AM Oct 2013

Glenn Greenwald rips apart the ‘most radical and criminal conduct’ of Dick Cheney

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/30/glenn-greenwald-rips-apart-the-most-radical-and-criminal-conduct-of-dick-cheney/



Glenn Greenwald rips apart the ‘most radical and criminal conduct’ of Dick Cheney
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:20 EDT

Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald blasted Dick Cheney on Tuesday night, after the former vice president described Edward Snowden as a “traitor” for leaking NSA secrets.

“Remember, Dick Cheney is a politician who engaged in some of the worst, most radical and criminal conduct in the last century in the United States and did it all in secret — from lying about the war in Iraq to torturing people, to putting people in cages with no lawyers, to eavesdropping on the American people without the warrants required by law,” he told CNN host Anderson Cooper. “So of course political people like Dick Cheney, people in political power always want to do what they do behind a wall of secrecy because that’s how they abuse power.”

“And they always consider those who bring transparency to what they do to be evil, treasonous people,” he continued. “Edward Snowden is considered a hero to people around the world and the United States and received a whistle blowing award because he did what people have conscience do, which is tell that world about things that they should know.”

“That the world’s most powerful people are trying to keep concealed,” Greenwald said. “It’s created a worldwide debate over internet freedom and the value of privacy and dangers of surveillance. It’s created movements for reform and all kinds of legislators around the world including in the United States and the world is much better off that the Dick Cheneys of the world aren’t able to abuse their power in secret.”
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Glenn Greenwald rips apart the ‘most radical and criminal conduct’ of Dick Cheney (Original Post) unhappycamper Oct 2013 OP
Presumably the Greenwald-bashers on this site will rush to Cheney's defense now? villager Oct 2013 #1
I can not understand how anyone would want to defend that scum but yeah they probably will. newfie11 Oct 2013 #2
Well there are liberals and then there's 'cheerleaders' Titonwan Oct 2013 #9
I could not agree more... BrainDrain Oct 2013 #12
+1 Nick Junior Nov 2013 #16
Somebody explain to me again how Greenwald hates the President ... Laelth Oct 2013 #3
Trying to jog my memory... ReRe Oct 2013 #4
I hate Libertarians more than Republicans. stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #5
I think of Libertarians a simple-minded younger siblings. bemildred Oct 2013 #6
they confuse freedom with privilege. KG Oct 2013 #7
Yeah, yuppie brats, and full of themselves. bemildred Oct 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Oct 2013 #15
if Glenn Greenwald said it, it couldn't possibly be true. KG Oct 2013 #8
Kicked and Recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #11
How about jail? angry citizen Oct 2013 #13
Oh, they shoved the blame off on an underling. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #14

Titonwan

(785 posts)
9. Well there are liberals and then there's 'cheerleaders'
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:55 AM
Oct 2013

Liberals want to know the truth, warts and all, about this president as well as the last one. "Cheerleaders" used to LOVE Glenn Greenwald when he railed against the Bush regimes corruption and law breaking but now are silent or raging against him for exposing Obama's playing fast and loose with the rule of law and constitution.
It's patriotic to be skeptical of our government and that's why the freedom of speech and the press is paramount. Yeah, the truth can be ugly, sometimes.

 

BrainDrain

(244 posts)
12. I could not agree more...
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:45 AM
Oct 2013

there is a difference between those who demand loyalty and those who demand truth. Those who demand loyalty usually don't care about the truth, only appearances, the constructed facade of lies they hide behind in the name of whats best for the "party". Now where have I seen that before?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Somebody explain to me again how Greenwald hates the President ...
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:13 AM
Oct 2013

... and how he's an enemy of the Democratic Party who's trying to help the Republicans.

I could have sworn I had heard something like that around here.



-Laelth

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. I think of Libertarians a simple-minded younger siblings.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:50 AM
Oct 2013

We agree about personal freedom, but they think that means a Hobbesian dystopia, whereas I think government is essential and central to making personal freedom happen. But then they confuse freedom with money, which is not the same thing at all.

KG

(28,752 posts)
7. they confuse freedom with privilege.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:54 AM
Oct 2013

which is why it seems to me so many are young middle-class white kids.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. Yeah, yuppie brats, and full of themselves.
Reply to KG (Reply #7)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:00 AM
Oct 2013

You read their OpEds and they are just full of snot. It attracts adolescents naturally, they are in that part of their lives when narcisissism is what you need. But you're supposed to grow out of it.

Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #5)

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
11. Kicked and Recommended!
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:42 AM
Oct 2013

I cannot think of a historical figure more deserving of punishment than Dick Cheney.

angry citizen

(73 posts)
13. How about jail?
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:49 AM
Oct 2013

As far as I know outing a covert CIA agent is Treason. Why is he still allowed to roam around free?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Oh, they shoved the blame off on an underling.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:09 AM
Oct 2013

Just like the regular evil villains of the past did it. Sort of like Watergate and Iran—Contra.

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