I Hope All Those DUers That Reside Here As NRA Apologists Are Proud Of Themselves

[cantbeserious]

I for one am ashamed that your opinions are allowed to rule and terrorize this web forum and the nation.

One day I hope that all of you will hold your heads in shame as the nation banishes your 2nd Amendment opinions and the NRA to the scrapheap of history.

Bill Moyers channels my shame for those that would defend the status quo and deny that America, and each of you, has a problem.

[link:http://vimeo.com/46119347#|

[holdencaufield]

1. Perhaps, some day, you'll explain to me ...

... how the NRA is responsible for a mentally-disturbed person performing a heinous act.

If next week a crazy person drives a dump truck into a crowd of people will you be ashamed on anyone who belongs to the Automobile Club?

[cantbeserious]

2. Someday Maybe You Can Explain To Me How You Quickly Raised An NRA Talking Point

To deflect the conversation.

[holdencaufield]

3. So -- no answer then.

OK -- maybe you can explain why you chose Guy Fawkes as a avatar -- a man who bore arms and believed in violent overthrow of government?

[cantbeserious]

5. I Choose The Spirit Of Guy Fawkes - Not the Methods Of Guy Fawkes

eom

[holdencaufield]

7. The spirit of a man ...

... who plotted to blow up Parliament, assassinate a king and kill hundreds of innocents all in the name of religion.

Perhaps you should chose your heroes more carefully -- or not get your history from sci-fi movies.

[cantbeserious]

8. Your Post Is Approaching A Personal Attack - Be Careful Or The Spotlight Will Turn Your Way

For your choice of avatar.

[holdencaufield]

15. You have a problem with Jews?

Why doesn't that surprise me?

[safeinOhio]

9. The spirit of the NRA with the words of

it's elected board member and spokesperson. The video I love to post in the gungeon.

any defense of this terrorist org is insanity, just like the video.

[cantbeserious]

11. Thank You For Exposing The Heinous Attitude Of A NRA Board Member - Ted Nugent

eom

[Lizzie Poppet]

24. Oh, I see how it works.

Any statement even vaguely pro-gun is an "NRA talking point."

[shawn703]

16. Because the NRA lobbies for looser gun restrictions

To make deadlier guns more easily available, making events like this more of a possibility.

Ever see the automobile club lobby for the right to drive down the sidewalk during rush hour so they can get to their destinations faster? Notice I did not say for the purpose of running down pedestrians - that would just be an unfortunate consequence that isn't as important as our right to move freely.

[machI]

4. A law abiding, liberal gun owner is not a NRA apologist

The brush you are painting with is wide enough to be insulting to your fellow liberals and Democrats.

[cantbeserious]

6. Maybe - My Comments Are Clearly Expressed As An Opinion - That Does Not Change My Shame

of the NRA apologists.

[william cail]

10. Funny

I too find it funny that you choose an avatar of a guy that advocates violence. The NRA of today are horrible. I don't want to see the complete baned of guns in this country.

Limit the size of the magazine clips. Heavy restrictions on assult weapons. The meat I get from hunting is better than the stuff you get from the supermarket. I'm including the natural/organic meats as well.

There are parts of this country that have wild animals that can kill you.

[cantbeserious]

12. AROUND WORLD, MASSACRES HAVE SPURRED GUN CONTROL

DUNBLANE, Scotland (AP) -- If there's anywhere that understands the pain of Newtown, it's Dunblane, the town whose grief became a catalyst for changes to Britain's gun laws.

In March 1996, a 43-year-old man named Thomas Hamilton walked into a primary school in this central Scotland town of 8,000 people and shot to death 16 kindergarten-age children and their teacher with four legally held handguns. In the weeks that followed, people in the town formed the Snowdrop campaign - named for the first flower of spring - to press for a ban on handguns. Within weeks, it had collected 750,000 signatures. By the next year, the ban had become law.

It is a familiar pattern around the world - from Britain to Australia, grief at mass shootings has been followed by swift political action to tighten gun laws.

Snip .....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SHOOTING_WORLD_GUN_CONTROL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-18-06-22-27

[cantbeserious]

13. Maybe If I Did Not Live In Fear Of NRA Apologists and Gun Owners I Would Not Need The Avatar

eom

[Indydem]

14. Why do you live in fear?

Your irrational hatred of a group of people who essentially want to be left the hell alone is interesting.

When, exactly, was the last time an NRA member or "apologist" was responsible for one of these massacres?

I'll wait while you try to find the example but I will not hold my breath.

[PavePusher]

20. Who specifically, on this forum, are you "in fear" of?

If someone is threatening you, name names, or take it to the admins, instead of this hysterical cry for attention.

[ileus]

17. I hope one day you find your NRA supporters.

As for me and my family we'll continue to support the 2A.


Stay safe, and carry on.

[krispos42]

18. Locking

This post properly belongs in Meta.

Regards,
Krispos42, Group Host

[krispos42]

19. Unlocking, and kick n/t

[jpak]

21. But you don't know anything about guns - so STFU

[sylvi]

22. A lot of what has been characterized as "apology"

A lot of what has been characterized as "apology" around here has been merely a correcting of the factual record. This is supposed to be a reality-based community, but for the last several days most of what I've seen from the gun-grabbers in "discussion" with pro-gunners has been snark, Appeal To Emotion, ad hominem, hyperbole, strawmen, name your logical fallacy. When a pro-2nd Amendment person tries to introduce facts, statistics, alternate arguments, what have you, the kneejerk "Y-y-your an NRA APOLOGIST!!! or "That's an NRA TALKING POINT!!! crap starts.

Who gives a fat rat's ass whose talking point it is? Is it a fact or not? Does it represent truth or not? Is it relevant to the argument or not? Those are the questions that should be considered in any discussion, not the thinly-veiled insult of accusing someone of shilling for some person or organization with conservative ideals. That's nothing more than a cheap, lazy and cowardly attempt to chill an opponents speech, to tamp out the argument immediately by making your opponent frightened to be seen as something they aren't in the hopes they'll shut up. It's sickening and shallow and obvious to everyone.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. thread winner. game over. thanks and Welcome