Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumMaine Hunter Shoots his Foot Off
Local news reportsA hunter is recovering after accidentally shooting himself in the foot.
According to the Maine Warden Service 37-year-old Andrew Knight, of Rome, was returning from the woods Saturday when he rested his 12-gauge shotgun on his left foot.
Knight told officials the gun then discharged, firing a shot into his foot.
Gun-rights folks always accuse us of fearing inanimate objects, but when it suits their purposes, they say things like "the gun discharged." The truth is we don't fear inanimate objects, but they love to blame them instead of the man.
Guns don't discharge by themselves. So this irresponsible and reckless guy made at least two mistakes. That's always the case. Whenever someone is hurt in a so-called gun accident, at least two of the 4 Rules of Gun Safety have been violated.
The reason One Strike You're Out must apply to cases like this is in all probability, this was not his very first act of negligence, he's 37-years-old, he's been doing stuff like this his whole life. Placing the muzzle of a loaded weapon on your foot is an unacceptable breach of safety. Unless a guy like this is disarmed, this will probably not be his last.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)but at this point he has been disfooted!!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)strike isn't even a crime? But it's OK, because he must have done other bad stuff in the past? Absolutely unacceptable, no matter the topic...
mikeb302000
(1,065 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)I maintain that any system in which a right or liberty is denied, based on a one-strike (or three-strike or zero tolerance) system, where the strikes aren't crimes or even deliberate actions necessarily, is unacceptable. But I'm curious: do you support that sort of draconian legal standard in general, or is this just a but-guns-are-different! sort of thing for you?
As for me, I'm pretty much against mandatory one-strike, three-strike, zero-tolerance notions in general: they seem to create more inequity and injustice than any problems they solve...
Warpy
(111,267 posts)and others shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. The danger is just too great, it's too easy to do real damage with one, unlike weapons requiring closer contact.
It's why I don't own them. My eyesight isn't the best and I'd be a real menace with a gun.
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)Read any gun forums lately? The mantra is "There are no accidental discharges; only negligent ones."
So you're lying again. Surprise, surprise.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Well... the man does have another foot...
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Remmah2
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Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Maybe we just got off on the wrong foot?
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...a footnote in his policy renewal notice.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)I'm here all week!
hack89
(39,171 posts)isn't it time to deal with the carnage on the highways?
mikeb302000
(1,065 posts)Of course it's badly named, it should be the "Anti-gun control and RKBA" thread. Even the moderators are biased gun rights fanatics.
But if you want to talk about cars, you're in the wrong place.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)especially since cars are more destructive to society and the planet.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)still trying to get the hang of this place . . .
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)Some acts are just too egregiously reckless or stupid, to permit idiots a second chance if they survive the first.
Instant disqualification and a full circus performance of hoop jumping to requalify.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Keep your booger hook off the bang switch, and never point a firearm at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)Most gun enthusiasts call this sort of thing an "ND" - Negligent Discharge.
The shotgun didn't rest itself on the guy's foot.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,343 posts)Nor did the shotgun chamber a round by itself, take itself off safety, or pull its own trigger.
It takes a whole string of moronic moves to have an accident like this. So many dumb moves that I wonder if alcohol might have been involved.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)That would be my guess as well.
Man get's drunk, crashes plane: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, crashes car: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, walks in to traffic: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, falls in lake and drowns: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, shoots foot off: OMG BAN GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Went twice this past weekend, zero incidents. Just like the past 34 years....uneventful boring if you will.
Didn't even see a stupid coyote to practice on, much less a deer.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)been hunting since I was a kid, never had an ND.
Here, I'll give you a coyote.
yourout
(7,528 posts)steel upright threw the scope as it was under the line of sight. Put a nice hole in it while the deer stood there a looked at me like....
"What the hell is that guy doing"?
I will be hearing about it from my son till I am dead and buried.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Guns don't discharge by themselves. So this irresponsible and reckless guy made at least two mistakes. That's always the case. Whenever someone is hurt in a so-called gun accident, at least two of the 4 Rules of Gun Safety have been violated.
So . . .guns don't kill people then?
The reason One Strike You're Out must apply to cases like this is in all probability, this was not his very first act of negligence, he's 37-years-old, he's been doing stuff like this his whole life. Placing the muzzle of a loaded weapon on your foot is an unacceptable breach of safety. Unless a guy like this is disarmed, this will probably not be his last.
Naturally this one strike rule applies to any dangerous devices. Like cars. Or swimming pools. Or prescription meds. Or gas stoves. Or . . .
SDjack
(1,448 posts)he should have rested the gun barrel on the end of his big toe. That would greatly limited the amount of tissue blown off. He will remember that the next time he goes hunting.
doc03
(35,340 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
doc03
(35,340 posts)advocates that think he has 2nd Amendment rights anyway.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)That hunter will never kick this thread..........................
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Statement of Purpose
Discuss gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.
ileus
(15,396 posts)The op believes this person is a criminal and should be fined, and his basic human rights removed.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)No content and no substance.