Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumThe Humorous Paranoia of the Gun-Rights Folks
An op-ed by Warren Thomas in the Daily Republic. http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/event/account:login/desturl/event/article/id/71834/
What Democrats usually ignore is the deviousness with which President Obama, a consistent anti-gun advocate, plans to assault our Second Amendment rights.
By winning re-election Obama will have the freedom to bypass Congress without that nagging problem of being responsible to American voters. He can simply impose restrictive executive firearms orders.
Historically, at least two things immediately occur whenever legitimate governments fall to despots guns are confiscated and voting is eliminated. We yet have a few days to prevent that from happening, but only a few days.
We often hear this kind of nonsense, but I'm wondering, how can a democratically conducted presidential election ever be confused with a "legitimate government falling to despots?"
Are the gun-rights folks so infantile that when they disagree with someone's politics they resort to calling them names?
Another oddity in their continual bashing of the possibility of gun confiscations is this. Did England and Australia become tyrannical? Did they do away with voting? Have they begun to round up their undesirables into concentration camps?
No, of course not. So, even if the unthinkable happens in the US and the 2nd Amendment is abolished or eliminated, and all the guns are rounded up and destroyed, tyranny would not follow. The Republic would endure. Only the ego maniacal gun-rights fanatics think it all depends on them.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000 http://mikeb302000.blogspot.it/
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)So, what's your point?
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)I am hard pressed to think of a bigger bunch of bullshit. The concept sure upped gun sales the last time though! For awhile, you couldn't buy ammo to save your life. Fortunatly for me, I already had several thousand rounds stockpiled. Funny, I still have most of em so I should be good for this erection too.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)To read that a person has thousands of rounds of ammunition stockpiled?
No of course not. You think that is normal.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... it's a weekend's fun.
hack89
(39,171 posts)you buy ammo in bulk twice a year and save hundreds of dollars. Basic economics.
Besides, a day at the range can use up a couple of hundred rounds - even more if I am practicing for a competition. Considering that there are four shooters in my house, I use every method I can to reduce ammo costs.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)If you like to shoot, buying ammo by the case is no different than buying toilet paper in bulk from costco. It's much cheaper in bulk. But apparently you see a difference. To me it's just hardware. Like buying a case of nails.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Now THAT is sick!
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)God forbid!
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)or at best a scant handful of handworked nails of inferior metals.
They never imagined the factories (yes plural!) that we'd have today churning out nails in every conceivable size, shape, and quantity.
1/2 inch? You got it.
3/4 inch brass? No problem.
1 and 1/2 inch galvanized? You don't even need to show an ID.
I've seen nails as long as 6 inches. They put them in stores where anyone, even children, could walk in without a police escort.
Now I'm not saying ban nails. But couldn't we tax them so they're prohibitively expensive? Maybe 100 bucks per? Nail fetishists could still indulge in their fantasies (perhaps in some sort of regulated carpentry club). But for the rest of us it would mean we no longer live in constant fear of the literally dozens of serious injuries caused by nails every second (probably).
/did you know Halliburton used nails extensively in their Iraq construction contracts? Yeah, that's military grade shit right there.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... at the time of the writing of the Constitution, sailors headed to the South Seas would stockpile nails to use as barter with native women for sex (because of the rarity of nails in the South Seas).
So, anyone with more than a specified amount of nails could successfully be prosecuted for conspiracy to prostitution.
Clames
(2,038 posts)..at my Weapon of Mass Construction.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TjogOaRc404/UGgGvJBZTWI/AAAAAAAAAGU/9BpvUgbPFk0/s1600/Freeman+PCN45+Coil+Roofing+Nailer.jpg
That's right, high capacity drum magazine and selective fire.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:52 PM - Edit history (1)
This is somewhat smaller than a common construction brick. You can buy 2000 rounds for less than $100. It's also quite common to buy other calibers in bulk, as it's long-term less expensive, and will help get one through periods of shortages, whether natural or artifical.
I'd say it's a great deal less "odd" than haveing hundreds or thousands of small pieces of printed paper, with used glue on one side and adulterated by ink on the other side, stuck into binders and placed on shelves.
YMMV. In fact, YMMBI.
Trunk Monkey
(950 posts).22 LR is sold in 1000 round packs
NewMoonTherian
(883 posts)For a huge number of perfectly reasonable people, it's normal. For some it's not. I respect your right to do a great number of things I find odd, because it's none of my business.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Nor the slightest appreciation for how the rest of us perceive your behavior.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)mikeb302000
(1,065 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)"Are the gun-rights folks so infantile that when they disagree with someone's politics they resort to calling them names?"
rl6214
(8,142 posts)misschicken
(44 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Welcome
misschicken
(44 posts)Everyone is so friendly, I think I've been welcomed a dozen times already.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...your post count.
You from miss.issippi?
misschicken
(44 posts)I'm in Ohio!
rl6214
(8,142 posts)one that you can't even see the source without logging in. Probably a right wing source anyway with a name like the Republic.
safeinOhio
(32,729 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)be so concerned by their "humour?"
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)he is the one doing all of the petty and childish name calling.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Depends on your definitions and tolerances. Both of those countries put up with social and legal restrictions that the great majority of U.S. Americans would never tolerate. I'd say they are certainly closer to tyranny than we are. And far less equiped to fight it if it becomes more pervasive.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... ask Galileo.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)"One strike and you're out."
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)-every traffic accident will turn into a shoot out
-a room full of gun carriers will end up shooting each other
-the police won't be able to tell the good guys from bad guys
-you will never be able to use it to defend yourself
-the criminal will take the gun away from you
-it will be just like the old west
-every argument will end in a gun fight
-if there were no guns we would have no crime like....
-if we take the guns off the streets criminals will not have guns
-some average guy carrying a gun in a restaurant will go off and start shooting
-every pro gun person is an egomaniac will a small penis just itching to kill somebody and will call you name if you point it out...
...
Oh, wait, you said the humorous paranoia of gun-rights folks...
never mind
ileus
(15,396 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)you really don't want to go to his blog, it's a dumbing down experience, I went there once and I think I lost a few IQ points, took me weeks to get back to where I was.
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(7,776 posts)The author of that gem, or the OP's?
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)before I read this...LOL
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...the OP; there's not a chance I'm letting myself in for spam from some unknown nonsense world.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)No, of course not. So, even if the unthinkable happens in the US and the 2nd Amendment is abolished or eliminated, and all the guns are rounded up and destroyed, tyranny would not follow. The Republic would endure. Only the ego maniacal gun-rights fanatics think it all depends on them.
You hope. And if that fails, then what?
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Here at DU in 2008 there were dozens of threads by people who were predicting that Bush would cancel the elections and refuse to leave office at the end of his term. Both the right and the left have their extremist nut cases.
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts).
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...I never thought you'd agree.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)linked-to opinions I have ever read on DU...I think anyone who reads it will actually be a bit dumber afterward.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...started getting numb after a few lines and I stopped reading.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)refrigerator and eat 6 eggs..among the best brain food may help recuperate your damaged neurosensors..with therapy you should be able to live a normal life again someday...good luck!
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...tuna and a beer; fish is brain food and beer, well it made Bud weiser.
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)Always ths Same from the Gun Clutching Crowd: Gun control advocates are stupid. It's the best they can do.
What's stupid is the notion that the positions of gun advocates doesn't benefit criminals.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Are you honestly arguing that the article linked in the OP is well reasoned and logical?
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)I merely responded to the post.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)So typical of what most on his side of this issue think and do, they just don't usually do in it the same sentence...most, at least, have the decency of a few sentences brake between accusing the "gun-rights folks" of name calling before actually calling them names.
Another oddity in their continual bashing of the possibility of gun confiscations is this. Did England and Australia become tyrannical? Did they do away with voting? Have they begun to round up their undesirables into concentration camps?
No, of course not. So, even if the unthinkable happens in the US and the 2nd Amendment is abolished or eliminated, and all the guns are rounded up and destroyed, tyranny would not follow. The Republic would endure. Only the ego maniacal gun-rights fanatics think it all depends on them.
There is almost a sexual aspect to this fantastic rant..like the writer is envisioning all this happening before his eyes...disregarding all reality on the issue...you know, the reality that there isn't even traction for any of this silliness right here on DU in GD, let alone among the public at large. No, pretty sure this is the dumbest piece I've read in quite some time..
Further, your words, "Always ths Same from the Gun Clutching Crowd: Gun control advocates are stupid. It's the best they can do.", are a response to my words calling "stupid" someone calling others "infantile"..LOL..get it?...~snork~
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)...at 'sexual aspect to this fantastic rant'
LOL. Really...do tell what comes to your mind!!!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)-because it would already be here...
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...and Romney signed a permanent assault-weapons ban in Massachusetts.
But Democrats are the problem!
montanto
(2,966 posts)"Are the gun-rights folks so infantile that when they disagree with someone's politics they resort to calling them names?"
Uh, is calling someone "infantile" not name calling?
Along with the broad brush title, I wonder why we tolerate these posts here?