Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumBurglar shot 90 yr old resident, old guy shot back, now burglar is suing old guy.
http://rt.com/usa/news/shot-cutrufelli-leone-vet-247/The article is really long so I will condense it to the main points.
It happened in Greenbrae, CA. Actually the burglar would be a home invader, but burglar is shorter to type, and room in the title line is limited.
Veteran says, "F- you, you son of a bitch, now it's my turn." and starts shooting.
Shots exchanged, thug wrestles aged veteran to the ground, put gun to vet's head, pulls trigger, "Click", out of ammo. Burglar runs away, gets in car. thug captured by police close to crime scene while in his car, bleeding.
Thug is on trial for attempted murder and other related crimes.
Thug is suing the old veteran claiming, "negligently shot the robber in the back, causing great bodily injury, and other financial damage, including loss of Mr. Cutrufellis home, and also the dissolution of Mr. Cutrufellis marriage.
This case well illustrates the value of Castle Doctrine laws. In Castle Doctrine states such suits would be instantly thrown out.
still_one
(92,219 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)1895 by common law (court precedent) just like US federal law. Several other states became SYG based on court decisions during the Progressive era. Illinois was the first state to actually pass a SYG law in 1961.
Since this happened in the home, SYG is not relevant. Castle Doctrine and SYG are two different things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
http://www.californiajuryinstructions.net/Criminal/CALCRIM/Vol_1/SERIES_500_HOMICIDE/CALCRIM_505_232_Justifiable_Homicide_Self-Defense_or_Defense_of_Another.htm
rDigital
(2,239 posts)Wait till they find out that a person with a CCW in California can carry just about everywhere, including schools.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)what does it matter? Even with "duty to retreat" if the DA, or a jury thinks you acted reasonable you don't go to jail, which as it should be.
CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)Don't let the setting sun hit you in the backside on the way out. One less person to take the water out of NorCal.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)I wish the games started earlier. Too much beer and DU don't mix!! Sorry for jumping on you but it is a strong sentiment north of Marin county. Everything south of Novato is SoCal ( I know Novato is in Marin but it's more Sonoma County than Marin) -- especially since we have to pay to go through SF (GG Bridge). Take Care -- time for a booze snooze!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... DOUBLE-TAP, people!
This is no time to be stingy with your bullets.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)The victim emptied the gun, but did not hit enough vital areas of the criminal.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)trouble.smith
(374 posts)so I had to shoot him in the back. end of story.
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)and the old timer decided he should be shot...hateful rude baser gunner.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...you talkin' 'bout shoulda just had a can a beans handy. That woulda avoided the whole mess.