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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:34 PM Oct 2012

Little girls pack heat in support of Paul Ryan

Little girls are packing heat for Paul Ryan.

One ten-year-old girl poses with her finger on the trigger of a rifle. She’s wearing noise cancelling headphones, a t-shirt emblazoned with a colorful peace sign and a broad smile.

A blond 13-year-old dressed in head-to-toe camouflage kneels next to the 20-pound turkey she just took down with a Remington 20 gauge shotgun. “Killed & grilled then off to mall for shoes,” her proud father tweeted.

The pint-sized predators were the product of a Twitter rant from conservative pundit Michelle Malkin.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-09-27/news/34132009_1_paul-ryan-gun-safety-daughter
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Little girls pack heat in support of Paul Ryan (Original Post) SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
Given the GOP attitude on rape packing protection for all women capable of child bearing makes sense gordianot Oct 2012 #1
what does Ryan have to do with it? gejohnston Oct 2012 #2
That site will undoubtedly cause much clutching of pearls and handwringing here. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #7
where did you get the Schützenfest pics? gejohnston Oct 2012 #8
Found them by accident-there was a link hidden in that last picture friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #9
Re: the Ayn Rand centerfold he masturbates to. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #19
So what? PavePusher Oct 2012 #3
I hear that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #4
Thank Heaven for them slackmaster Oct 2012 #5
Target shooting under adult supervision is an excellent technique of teaching gun safety. .... spin Oct 2012 #6
This op, shows just how out of touch MSM and urban folks really are..false consensus effect.. virginia mountainman Oct 2012 #10
Lucky girl, I only got a .22! ; ) nt rDigital Oct 2012 #12
Thanks for the link describing what I called 'pronoia' friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #14
Spring gobbler season is a load of fun... ileus Oct 2012 #11
Another young woman ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13
just to be a smart ass gejohnston Oct 2012 #15
Just noticed this part.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #16
To be fair if they are hunting they are, by definition, predators Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #20
It was target practice. The author is a flaming rectal wart. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #21
You really need to stop posting these misleading ridiculous articles former-republican Oct 2012 #17
And no discussion page at the newspaper link. Imagine that. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #18
Michelle Malkin is probably the angriest person on earth Union Scribe Oct 2012 #22
What about Anne Coulter? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #23
Coulter is more mercenary. Malkin is serious about it. I despise both... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #24
With or without Ryan, Francis Marion Oct 2012 #25

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
2. what does Ryan have to do with it?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oct 2012

This goes on across the US, Canada, much of Europe and New Zealand before anyone heard of him or the Ayn Rand centerfold he masturbates to.
Is it trying to say Ryan started a trend? If so, he did not.
Is he using his daughter and any real hunter as props in another photo op? Possibly
Do I really give a rat's ass what Michelle Malkin tweets? No.

It sounds rather European doesn't it?
http://www.newlyswissed.com/?p=7768

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
7. That site will undoubtedly cause much clutching of pearls and handwringing here.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:16 PM
Oct 2012

Oh noes, teenagers with assault rifles (that's right folks, honest-to-FSM assault rifles)!



The caption:
"This girl, one of 1,585 who competed, is being coached in sharpshooting with the Assault Rifle 90, the Swiss service rifle."



"The score card: Father and daughter, Swiss diversity."



 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
9. Found them by accident-there was a link hidden in that last picture
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:30 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/articles/swiss_teen_rifle_festival.html


Girl Beats Guys: A Swiss Teen Rifle Festival
Das Zürcher Knabenschiessen



The kid that won sounds like an Annie Oakley in the making. You would not want any of them shooting at you for real-just read this bit:

...A coach is assigned to each position where one after another shooter competes. The iron sights are set for 300 meters at factory settings and are not adjusted during the entire competition. After each shot, the coach uses a clear plastic sheet picturing the rifle sights – the vertical post and the ring – with a dot showing competitors where they hit. The only adjustment is by Kentucky windage.

The shooting positions are in a long building with garage-like doors that open and close. The rifle range is on the upper level, and a pistol range on the lower level, with 25 and 50 meter targets.

In Swiss shooting culture, a few accurate hits are superior to lots of “spray and pray” shots. Before World War I, a German general observing Swiss military maneuvers asked a Swiss militiaman what would the Swiss do if a German army, twice the size of the Swiss militia, invaded. The militiaman responded, “Shoot twice and go home.”

That explains why, at the Knabenschiessen, each youngster gets only five shots. And there are no practice shots. Of course, a great number of the competitors are expert “markschildren,” undergoing regular, rigorous training.
 

Trunk Monkey

(950 posts)
19. Re: the Ayn Rand centerfold he masturbates to.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oct 2012

Yeah, there's not enough eye bleach in the world

Thanks dude

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
3. So what?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

By the way, that "ten-year-old girl" isn't "posing", she's actually target shooting.

Sounds like an attempt to gin up more urban namby-pamby panic to me.

Meh, I say....

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
4. I hear that...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

...there's topless photos of Lindsay Lohan out there, too. It's amazing what "what's it" as news these days.

spin

(17,493 posts)
6. Target shooting under adult supervision is an excellent technique of teaching gun safety. ....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

In many rural areas of our nation people hunt to put food on their table.

I and many other people who engage in the shooting sports believe that introducing our children to shooting is responsible and will make them far safer while handling firearms and more proficient in using them.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
10. This op, shows just how out of touch MSM and urban folks really are..false consensus effect..
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:39 PM
Oct 2012

My kids have their OWN semi-auto rifles, and my nearly 16 year old daughter is about to receive her OWN 1911 .45 for christmas. This is NOT an issue, if it becomes one, it will hurt us at the polls even more. The MSM keeps pointing out just how clueless they are on firearm ownership. It is only an issue in a few minds...

Writers of articles like this need to be made aware of the false consensus effect...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect

This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population. Since the members of a group reach a consensus and rarely encounter those who dispute it, they tend to believe that everybody thinks the same way.

Additionally, when confronted with evidence that a consensus does not exist, people often assume that those who do not agree with them are defective in some way. There is no single cause for this cognitive bias; the availability heuristic, self-serving bias and naïve realism have been suggested as at least partial underlying factors.


IMHO this explains a lot about the Gun Control movements loud whining, and their repeated defeats. They are so convinced that they are the majority, they literally cannot even fathom the "real" reasons why they continually lose most elections, and blame the NRA, when in reality it is GUN OWNERS voting them out.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
15. just to be a smart ass
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:20 PM
Oct 2012
One ten-year-old girl poses with her finger on the trigger of a rifle. She’s wearing noise cancelling headphones, a t-shirt emblazoned with a colorful peace sign and a broad smile.
so, is she really "packing heat in support of Paul Ryan" or was she bullshitting the USSS?
 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
16. Just noticed this part....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:03 PM
Oct 2012
The pint-sized predators...


WTF?! "predators"? Really? Cite to evidence...?

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
22. Michelle Malkin is probably the angriest person on earth
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:35 AM
Oct 2012

I've seriously never encountered another person who just lives and breathes anger every moment.

Francis Marion

(250 posts)
25. With or without Ryan,
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

these families would still be doing this. It's a regular day in their life.

So big deal- snapshots of families who live in a free country.

What's the story here? Your link only provides one photo, but everything looks good there. She has personal protective equipment... sights are on target AND finger is on trigger... cheek weld could be improved, but she's still small, and the muffs get in the way. Foam plugs would help. She chose a good stock length setting for her size. It would be interesting to try placing the support hand under the buttstock and changing point of impact vertically by clenching her fist. And if her trigger elbow is off the table surface to avoid getting it scuffed up, a long sleeve shirt and towel would help that.

So besides the obvious points just mentioned, this is being brought up why exactly?

What a non event. Unless a person's frame of reference is not that of a free person's.

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