Utah needs to establish reasonable gun restraints

[SecularMotion]

The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution is limited. Government may impose time, place and manner restrictions on our rights of free speech; it may limit our free exercise of religion provided it has a compelling interest and the limit is narrowly tailored; the press may be denied access to information in certain circumstances.

Meanwhile, the Utah Legislature continues to push for unlimited gun rights, claiming that these are "Second Amendment rights." Last session, Rep. Paul Ray, R-Clearfield, promoted a bill that would have the effect of telling individuals not to be alarmed when they see someone walking around their neighborhoods, churches, grocery stores or just about anywhere else with a visible firearm — including an assault weapon.

Among the cursory reasons provided in support of the bill was the vague assertion that it would protect Second Amendment rights. But asserting a right is constitutional does not make it so. The United States Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that the Second Amendment "protects the right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self defense." At no time has the Court expanded the Second Amendment to include a right to openly carry a firearm as a fashion accessory.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765610150/Utah-needs-to-establish-reasonable-gun-restraints.html

[Eleanors38]

1. The U.S. Constitution protects a RKBA, but doesn't specify the method of "bearing..."

This guarantee by the U.S. Constitution fulfills the federal obligation to protect the Second. Individual states may regulate the method of carry; open, concealed or both. It cannot bar both. This was Utah's decision, so live with it.

In Texas, the law protects concealed carry, not open (except for shooting range/hunting field transfer).

[holdencaufield]

2. Come and Enjoy Utah ...

... now with FEWER guns and MORE wives.

[Eleanors38]

6. More wives? N-o-o-o-o...nt

[TPaine7]

3. Are you in agreement with this author?

At no time has the Court expanded the Second Amendment to include a right to openly carry a firearm as a fashion accessory.

This is wrong in many ways. The ignorance is so profound that it would take several paragraphs to refute it.

But since you haven't actually stated your position, I'll ask. Is this your view? Do you have a view on the passage?

[Jenoch]

4. Huh?

"Utah needs to establish reasonable gun restreains"???

Why can't the gunowners in Utah use the same restraints as gun owners in other states? I happen to have a large gun safe. I know people that use trigger locks and cable locks. Any of these restraints should be adequate for the people of Utah.

[ileus]

5. That would require ditching 100's of unreasonable gun restraints...sounds like a good plan.

However.com I have a feeling these people don't want to make America a better place, they're thinking of themselves with a narrowmind.

[Eleanors38]

7. I'd like to see a debate between pro-2a folks and

Journalists (the true water bearers for prohibition), not merely on the points of gun-control, but over their record of fairness on this issue, esp regarding ethics.

[ileus]

8. Why be alarmed at the sight of personal safety devices?

The carry of any firearm is for personal safety people need to get over their fears of their fellow man and embrace progressive firearm rights.

[aikoaiko]

9. Even if Utah had no gun laws, Federal law requires limits and restricts gun possession

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It appears that Jean Hill is an obvious liar when she says the Utah legislature is pushing for unlimited gun rights. Either that or she is an idiot.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. +1 ... You beat me to it.

Said it almost word for word what I was planning to say. GMTA. Thanks.

[krispos42]

11. Where's the blood in the streets?

Oh, yeah, it's still in the realm of "you just wait and see, any day now".

[4th law of robotics]

12. Utah ranks 45th in the country for violent crime rates

clearly they are doing something horribly wrong. They need to adopt gun laws more similar to Michigan (10), or California (14), or Illinois (13).

Although they'd be best off being more like DC (not a state but would be ranked number 1 with more than double the violent crime rates of the current winner).