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According to a joint press release issued by Corrigan and the Kalispell Police Department, Harpers actions were justified under a series of state self-defense laws commonly referred to as castle doctrine and stand your ground laws in effect across the country.
Were we to charge Brice with homicide and proceed to trial, I am convinced the judge and/or jurors would conclude that Brice reasonably believed he was about to be assaulted and that his use of force was therefore justified under Montana law, Corrigan wrote. We lack the evidence necessary to prove otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt.
Harper, 24, shot and killed Fredenberg the night of Sept. 22 when Fredenberg confronted Harper about a relationship he had been having with Dans wife, Heather Fredenberg.
http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_8064190a-123e-11e2-8fda-0019bb2963f4.html
montanacowboy
(6,097 posts)right in front of his wife and kids
this is this castle doctrine fucking bullshit - so anyone that comes onto your driveway and is not armed, and you feel threatened, you can shoot him three times and it's OK?
petronius
(26,602 posts)relying too heavily on news articles apply, of course).
A previous violent confrontation, the deceased advancing through a garage toward a visibly armed person, and another potential assault-victim (the wife) outside - any death is deplorable, but I can certainly understand how the shooter could have felt a reasonable fear of serious injury in those circumstances...
Clames
(2,038 posts)...is that one better think twice before being drunk and considering to assault someone on their property.
CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)I didn't see that in the story.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)Oh well -- it' the norm for the antis. I also noticed he/she said driveway. I think the story said something about a garage. Facts aren't their forte I guess.
Take Care!!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)He was in his garage and being threatened, per the linked article.
Also, there is no indication that his kids were anywhere around.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)the kids were in the mother's vehicle in the driveway.
The widow in this story is blaming her young friend for 'murdering' her husband. If she did not mess around with this guy he would likely be alive today.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Poster child for the Brady cause.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)just from the article, you have a middle aged guy at his home vs a violent drunk who beats his wife. I can see reasonable doubt.
Missycim
(950 posts)but why do the people who get shot always say "you shot me" no shit he did lol
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Such a nuanced sense of humor you have.
Missycim
(950 posts)you are such a stick in the mud.
rDigital
(2,239 posts)people are killed by hands and feet of other "unarmed" people than any type of rifle (that includes the uber scary tacticool semi autos too) each year in the U.S.
It's not like the movies, anything that can knock you out can kill you. Many people are killed with a single punch.
Man killed with one punch in Las Vegas casino
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/07/06/20110706las-vegas-casino-beating-death.html
Man killed with a single punch in the UK. Gets 5 years. Illegal gun buyers get 15?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/09/delroy-hines-killed-man-one-punch-loses-appeal_n_1502930.html
Another one punch murder
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/172812571.html
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Headline: Hundreds were slaughtered today throughout the United States by a growing army of deadly hands and feet. Legislators are considering outlawing the use of such weapons unless the owners have a permit to carry them openly.
You guys crack me up, especially when you say "It's not like the movies"
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)And yet legislators are considering outlawing assault rifles, which kill half as many people as hands and feet.
I'm not sure you realize the irony of your sarcasm.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Damn you guys are funny. Sounds like you're competing for the Zimmerman award.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)bothered with learning the facts of the case, the Zimmerman reference is silly.
CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)it's just the way our betters do things. Run out of facts and just start flinging shit. God I hate the crows that like my choke cherry (wild cherry) bushes but they fling less shit.
hack89
(39,171 posts)it is all about a wedge issue to pass future gun control measures - just like the original AWB.
BTW - it does not mean banning anything. It means adopting a reasonable, rational and fact based position. Not strict adherence to a rigid anti-gun ideology.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)within last two years.